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mousie Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:04 PM
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Sign Kerry's Petition ?
http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/rumsfeld2.php

Mr. President,

I was surprised and disappointed that you told the Washington Post last week that no Bush administration official should be held accountable for our failures in Iraq. As the situation worsens and more American lives are lost and troops deployed to the region, it's time to stop rewarding incompetence and to start demanding accountability. For the sake of our men and women in uniform and their families here at home, I urge you to start by replacing Donald Rumsfeld. His record of failure and his inability to play it straight with the American people and our troops overseas make him unfit to serve as Secretary of Defense for one more day, never mind four more years.

If you care about restoring our credibility around the world and our credibility with our troops on the ground in Iraq, you've got to start by removing Donald Rumsfeld as Secretary of Defense. That's why I am joining Senator John Kerry and hundreds of thousands of Americans in adding my name to the johnkerry.com petition calling for Rumsfeld's immediate removal from office.

I urge you to act without delay. We can't afford any more auto-penned letters of condolences and shifting stories about what kind of armor we have to protect our troops.

American soliders and their families are counting on you as Commander in Chief to hold those in charge of the war in Iraq to the highest standards.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:06 PM
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1. Done
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:07 PM
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2. Done. n/t
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:08 PM
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3. done
cb
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:10 PM
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4. No way, no how
First, Bush* will never listen to this. Ever.

Second, this only bolster's Kerry's name which might give him impitice to run again in 08, a thought I can not tolerate since he failed to follow through on his only real promise to us: to make sure election 04 did not become like Florida in 00.

I agree with the petition, but it's only real value is to bolster Kerry, and I have a definite interest in seeing Kerry disappear into the woodwork.
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:56 PM
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60. KERRY! KERRY! KERRY! KERRY!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:02 AM
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70. You won't support a good thing because it's from someone you don't support
for 2008.

Dude, that's like, ya know, 3 1/2 years away. Welcome to today, dude.

Today, this is a good thing. Can't hurt, might help. Kind of like chicken soup for the progressive soul.

It's not a race. Help Boxer or Kerry or anyone else who is fighting the power and forget about the primaries of 2003 and 2007. Please? Pretty please? With a Dean scream on top? (bats eyelashes for emphasis)
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:11 PM
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5. Cannot find this on johnkerry.com website. Was it an email?
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mousie Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:29 PM
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17. no (not yet anyway?)...
I came across it through the Light Up the Darkness site that someone else posted I believe!
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:37 PM
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21. Thanks. Actually Will Pitt is reporting it will be on the website soon.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 06:23 PM
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44. http://www.johnkerry.com/replacerumsfeld
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:12 PM
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6. Done.
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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:13 PM
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7. Done.
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Broadslidin Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:13 PM
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8. A Waste of Time......
My thought is: 'Phooey'

Couuld Sen. Kerry, Inc. be fishing for e-mail addresses
with financially lucrative postal zip codes?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:25 PM
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14. yes it's a Kerry conspiracy
:eyes: :crazy:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 06:16 PM
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40. several 'category 1' sightings, recently.....
:nuke:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 06:17 PM
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41. yup
just give em one of these :hi: and all will be good.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 06:22 PM
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43. and...
.....it keeps my snooze-button busy.

Senator Kerry and Boxer are driv'n some nails today......

Cheers Faye!
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:34 PM
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19. That was my very first thought
:eyes:

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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 05:37 PM
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35. P.A.O.J.K.D.N.I.M
Petty Attacks on John Kerry Do Not Impress Me

So sorry he is being mean to Rumsfeld

:nopity:
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 06:46 PM
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45. lol
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Corey_Baker08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 06:12 PM
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39. Petition Signed- Democrat or Hypocrit?
I signed the petition and I hope everyone else does too. John Kerry realizes the fraud in this last election or he wouldnt be talking about it. yet he also realizes the Bush Admn. should be held accountable for their actions and the reselcting of Bush does not signify our approval our his Iraq policy. its time to get rumsfeld and get a foreign policy thaT WORKS. Kerry is defending us to the best of his ability, in the Senate, as we saw today, and in life in general.

If you claim you are a democrat and choose not to sign this petition because of your dislike for John kerry, your not a democrat your a hypocrit, and thats the last thing we need right now.

Thank-You
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Dragonfli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 06:55 PM
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50. Very Well Said - NT
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:58 PM
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61. KERRY! KERRY! KERRY! KERRY!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:13 PM
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9. done
dude Kerry's' going off, i love it.
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Catbird Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:15 PM
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10. Done
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IndyPriest Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:22 PM
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11. Happily, enthusiastically done. n/t
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:23 PM
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12. Absolutely
Done!
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:24 PM
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13. VERY IMPORTANT PETITION, GUYS, SIGN PLEASE! (n/t)
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:25 PM
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15. done happily n/t
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:27 PM
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16. Done
As usual, Kerry kicks ass and takes names.

I can't see why someone who's really on our side could possibly argue that this is a waste of time. I find that peculiar. :shrug:
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:31 PM
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18. done ..thanks n/t
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:37 PM
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20. Let me put this another way
Sign the petition if you wish. March in the streets. Bash your heads against a wall. Go for broke.

BUT, and let me make this absolutely clear, if Kerry runs in 08 he will lose. That is a foregone conclusion. Why? He is a died in the wool liberal, and not just because Bush* called him that. He really is. I had my entire RW family thinking about things, but there was no way they could stomach Kerry. That will NOT change in four years. And, Kerry does not have the cojones to do what is needed. Will he admit he's a proud liberal in the American tradition? No. Will he pursue voter fraud? No.

I have marched, petitioned, yelled, called, travelled, and done everything I could to promote Kerry, but he failed. He didn't fail to win. He failed do defend his win, as he promised he would.

This is the big leagues, and there is no room for error. I like Kerry. I was a Kerry supporter from the beginning of the primaries. I would love to have him as Pres. But, that day is gone. The voice of the people is OUR voice, and we must speak loudly and wisely.

So, let Boxer do this silly petition that will go nowhere and I will sign it. And let Kerry do whatever remains in his power to do. But, as a unified voice, we must not only defend ourselves but we must let Kerry know that he let us down when he broke his promise about fighting voter fraud.
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:42 PM
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24. "Silly petition"?
Talking too much with your family, lately?
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:52 PM
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30. a petition to passify detractors which will go nowhere...silly
The time for petitions is behind us. Keep acting like we live in a Democracy. That's exactly what your leaders want you to do.

Let me go one step further...last November I cast a vote in a "silly" election. It was a fantasy, a ruse. It was a foregone conclusion that Bush* would win.

Do you need proof? Well, try this. If you know anyone with a lot of money (I mean a LOT of money), why don't you ask them what they think. I'll put odds that they knew all along Bush* would win because they are well aware of what's going on. They KNOW how much richer they are. They KNOW what tactics are being used. I have several friends in this position. Almost all of them told me they were voting for Kerry, though I don't necessarily believe them. I know this is anecdotal, but it points to the truth nonetheless.

If there is anyone on this board who thinks this petition will actually work, or even has a CHANCE of working, I'd like to hear your reasoning. In point of fact, it has much more power for bolstering the cry of "whining liberals" than for actually changing anything.

Again, I don't oppose the petition. I say it's a waste of time and might possibly work against us.
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:56 PM
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31. I'm not conditioned by Right Wing "created reality"
If you gave up, that's your privilege.

Checks and balances in democracy..."silly thing", indeed.

The system can be saved, but WORKING FOR THE CHANGE.
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 05:05 PM
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32. Please don't misinterpret me
First, I never called checks and balances or democracy silly. I called petitions and voting silly in today's america. That's reality. We must learn this lesson if we want change.

Second, I've not given up, or I wouldn't be here writing a little missive to an anonymous person.

Third, there is no 'saving' the 'system'. There is only the future, and what we do with our present darkness to create the change I think we both want.

I'm glad for all of you that feel inspired by signing this petition. But, consider the opinions of those who are on your side, will you? If we all want change, it's going to take more than petitions and sign and protests. It's going to take: MONEY, SUBVERSION, and an honorable LEADER who is as powerful at speaking as MLK was. Kerry had MONEY, but not enough. And, he showed he did not have enough of the skills in SUBVERSION and LEADERSHIP to move us out of this present darkness.

I hope we will all continue to work together for change in realistic ways.
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SmileMaker Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:05 PM
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62. Signed it and sent a message to Kerry to keep up the good work
And I've been crying again over how cruel the people who did 'win' are. Any doubts that I had about Kerry were removed after watching him in action as he brilliantly grilled Condi tonight. I don't know what will work - but, I do know that if the Bushbots succeed in keeping us divided, they will have succeeded. I want our democracy to succeed and I trust that Kerry has the best interests of America, the world and our future in his very careful approach. If he hadn't gone to the middle-east when he did, he could not have pulled off what he did today in his questioning. He made me proud.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 05:16 PM
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33. Speak for yourself!
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 06:53 PM
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48. Kerry didn't fail.
The vote (non)counters did. Get it straight.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:37 PM
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22. Done nt
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pamela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:39 PM
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23. Done n/t
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RadicalMom Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:42 PM
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25. Done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:43 PM
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26. Done!
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:44 PM
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27. Done nt
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:46 PM
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28. Done N/T
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 04:48 PM
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29. Done
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zimba Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 05:33 PM
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34. and done
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sickinohio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 05:41 PM
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36. done
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 05:43 PM
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37. Done! And forwarded to my complete address book!!!!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 06:03 PM
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38. Done n/t
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 06:17 PM
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42. Done & Forwarded (n/t)
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 06:47 PM
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46. It was my honor
to sign this petition.
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 06:50 PM
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47. Done. kick n/t
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ocean girl Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 06:54 PM
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49. NEVER SURRENDER - DONE!
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livvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 07:19 PM
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51. Done! n/t
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Im with Rosey Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 07:59 PM
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52. Done
and posted @ VelvetRevolution. Anyone know a total so far?
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:01 PM
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53. Something's going on...
I don't why, but I have a feeling that the lid is going to blow off something any day now.

You know what I'm talking about, all the work we've been doing, Kerry's silence in the past few months, his trip to the middle east, these petitions we've got from his website, the challenge to the electors, today's interrogations of Rice, trying to break the media blackout, this feeling we're seeing a shadow presidency emerge, etc.

All the "I Believe" threads do have some significance to a certain extent.

Something big is about to happen. I don't know what, but I have a feeling it's something good.

I know this for sure, Kerry has our backs. He did from day one.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:19 PM
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54. Agree. I think he has some long term plans.
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tinonedown Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:22 PM
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55. DDD Done -eom
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:30 PM
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56. Done
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waz_nc Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:31 PM
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57. Done
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rdmccur Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:39 PM
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58. Done.
My message was (in a nutshell) that Kerry was the true President-elect and that the election results were a sham. (Not necessarily relevant to the petition but could not resist).
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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:46 PM
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59. Absolutely
and E-mailed link to friends.
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dalloway Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:07 PM
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63. done. Is Kerry planning to lead the shadow opposition gov't? n/t
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dalloway Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:10 PM
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64. "...right temporarily defeated is stronger than evil triumphant."
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:28 PM
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65. Done
:kick:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:32 PM
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66. I do'd it.
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:35 PM
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67. Done
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mary195149 Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 10:37 PM
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68. Looks like John Kerry is going to be in Bush's face daily.
Good for John!!
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 11:40 PM
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69. Done! n/t
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Broadslidin Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:34 AM
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71. Sending a Petition to these Sociopaths is a Bit Goofy.......
So, I signed it.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:55 AM
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72. did it.
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consciousobjector Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:43 AM
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73. Done n/t
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