Is there anyone in here who believes 2008 vote will be any different

Rumour has it that Jeb Bush is going to step up to the plate for 08 and continue the Bush leadership.

With Diebold still in place, who will be the next Catherine Harris - Kenneth Blackwell to decide the next President?

It will leak. Our hard working activists will take their significant findings to the right person and they will help bring the story out. Jeb will LOOSE.

If we don't get the machines, we're all screwed.

wins I swear to God I will leave this country. If we can't have someone in the Dem party to come forth by then that will represent us , then I think it is time to give up. I can't take anymore of this rightwing crap.I think our country will be destroyed if this rightwing control continues. We have to keep this from happening. If it takes joining another party or whatever I will do it. I am from a long line of Dem. women , and I will not give in any longer to the right.

Seriously, this country is regressing to the point where I feel very unsafe as a gay man. Blatant harassment, car chases, sexual harassment, property damage, etc... and it's all okay in Indiana because it is "discrimination," which is perfectly legal. At least that's what the judge said. Sounds like anarchy to me, especially now that I carry pepper spray and a huge metal flashlight to swing at heads.

Dick will step down in a couple years & George will APPOINT Jeb as VP. The media will spend the rest of the term praising the unexpectedly fantastic job Jeb is doing; then, the fix will insure Jeb "wins." You may quote me!

Cheney resigns.

Jeb becomes VP.

* resigns.

Jeb becomes the new Resident and pardons the entire family.

And of course, we know how honest he is, so we can believe it.

The appearance of campaigning and the fuss about getting votes will
become a staged scenario used primarily for rewarding those who do the dirty work, raising oodles of money, adding to the propaganda mailing list, and creating rungs on the neocon ladder of success.

How can he resist? Besides, I heard a rumor than either Frist or Santorum wants Rove to run his campaign. Neither of those buffoons has a chance without Rove's skulduggery in his back pocket.

Granted, a big IF, but stranger things have happened in this world.
I do know one thing for sure...

If you start any endeavor holding the idea you are going to fail,
you WILL fail. What you think about comes about.

"Whether you think you can,
or you think you can't,
you're right."

............... Henry Ford

no donation. no volunteer. no vote. nothing.

unless the system is fixed.

cycle! It is growing way too fast to allow this crap in 2008! At least that's what I see. We just need to get the message to those without Internet. there are lots of suggestions about flyer's, but I would like to really see that effort pan out. I am currently trying to get out as many deception dollars as I can. They are jammed with information and people really inspect them! I am attempting to put several on windshields whenever I am in a parking lot. I may have to put one on my own car windshield just to offset the Democratic Underground sticker so I don't get a brick through my window, but hopefully that one will get "stolen" since it looks enough like a dollar when folded up someone might try to make a buck!

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McCain isn't in the neo-con loop. He might as well be a Libertarian or a Democrat, the way they treat him. Look how they trot out the attack ads (interestingly, the last batch by a group that had the same address as the Swift Boat guys) any time he sticks his head over the line.

--MarkusQ

Oh, Pleeeeeeaaaaaaaasssssssseeeee.

:eyes:

No idea who it will be, but it won't be Jeb. It would start to look like nepotism, even to the Republicans. He can't get the nomination. No, I don't have a prediction who it will be.

I think they sent JEB BUSH/COLIN POWELL out as a trial ticket...

and this from above...

Dick will step down in a couple years & George will APPOINT Jeb as VP. The media will spend the rest of the term praising the unexpectedly fantastic job Jeb is doing; then, the fix will insure Jeb "wins." You may quote me!

was supposed to be down here!

... work to clean up, straighten up and protect free and fair elections; or we will make such a noise that the walls of the Rove Nation will crumble. They better get used to shouts of "Shame!!" in their ears.

I would not want to be whomever the next Repug candidate for Prez if the election theft shit-storm breaks. So run Jeb, run. We might as well make fun out of both of you fools at the same time.

I can see the Democrat's slogan now: "Four more years under a Bush? Fuggedabowdit!!"

I believe election reform WILL happen before 2008 comes around! It's already in the works and there's no going back. Next time we will win too!

I'd like to apologize for the stupidity of my fellow state voters.

I am ashamed!

And if that man is ever a nominee for Pres or VP, beware- the apolocypse is definetly here.

Read the constitution:

http://supreme.lp.findlaw.com/constitution/article02/index.html

Search for the word 'born'

passes.

Go to his website. There is a press release about the amendment proposed in early January.

Read the constitution:

http://supreme.lp.findlaw.com/constitution/article02/index.html

Search for the word 'born'

there is already a whisper campaign underway regarding making a change to that part of the Constitution. It was started by a Repug. out of So. Cal, Rhorbacher, I think.

anyone with 20 years citizenship to run for president. It's on his website.

I don't know what is up with that.......

What is going on here?

God, I hate Ah-nald.

It bugged me so much when I first came across it that I posted about it, and got a few answers--mainly that it may be some way of bargaining. Others said it was just Conyers' work for immigrants...but being a Californian myself on Ah-nulled watch, it really, really is unsettling to me.

I'm not even sure he was properly elected.

And now he wants to gerrymander the state? I agree that it is already gerrymandered in a bad way -- only 1 real contest in Merced. But it sounds like he wants to pack it with Repubs, like Texas.

would be Dem Gov. Granholm of Michigan, Conyers' state. She's from Canada.

http://www.californiaaggie.com/article/?id=6568

...e-voting precincts. The only question is: Will there be a paper trail?

because by then people will be aware that the vote is a sham.

Edited to add:

And we should work like hell to make a difference now. Anything is possible.

...these machines must be scrapped at all costs, or democracy is dead in this country.

I wonder what a strong magnet would do to a voting machine?

Just a passing thought....

We need to think about all the house races that the dems say they will fight to win next year. Those will be stolen too, and the repugs will have an even bigger majority! We're screwed. These thugs steal, and don't give a damn about it.

FL didn't need Katherine Harris in 04 because they had the voting machines in place. OH will be safely in the Repub column forever next election, just as GA and FL are now.

It's up to US (not the U.S. - lol) to see that we have a democratic voting system. And it has to be in place before 2008. I refuse to believe that Jeb or any other evil Republican will take office in 2008. Just thinking it puts that energy into the universe and gets the ball rolling. I will envision an honest (as honest as any politician can get! lol), hard working team that will represent the people in the White House once Bush goes down (which I think he will).