Green recount teams found evidence of fraud or manipulation in many counti

Ohio Summary of Green Recount Team reports of county recount efforts- only about half of counties have completed Green reports- few of the counties allowed full complete audits
http://www.flcv.com/greenrc.html

Most counties did not choose a random sample of precincts for the hand count vs machine comparisons, thus there is no reason to believe the "recount" was useful and likely to identify fraud or manipulation that might have occurred. In fact precincts where known fraud or manipulation are known to have occurred were not audited.
Only 4 relatively small counties were noted in the recount summaries to have done full random samples as required by Ohio law. 4 other counties were noted as having either done a random sample with demographic limits on the counties that could be chosen or to say they did previous random sample without recount team participation.

In the recount/audit process, there was evidence of fraud or manipulation of vote totals that were likely to have produced significant deviations in the official vote totals compared to the voter intent in many counties. This is in addition to failure to count or take into account undervotes due to hanging chad as can be done according to Ohio law. The hanging chad were a problem in getting agreement between hand counts and machine counts in many punch card counties.

The following counties were identified as having evidence of fraud or manipulation that could have produced significant differences between official counts and voter intent(or significant efforts to prevent recount team from assessing the validity of vote totals)

Auglaize, Ashland, Coshocton, Cuyahoga, Fairfield, Fayette, Fulton, Green, Hamilton, Hardin, Hocking, Licking, Lucas, Medina, Mercer, Miami, Monroe, Montgomery, Perry, Putnam, Sandusky, Summit,

Some of these counties have had followup analysis by independent analysts that provide further documentation on these counties issues, as well as large numbers of irregularity incident reports to the EIRS hotline on election day. Some of this documentation can be found at the following 5 sites:
http://northnet.org/minstrel/alpage.htm Mahoning and Columbus and Cleveland and etc.
http://www.freepress.org Departments articles
http://www.flcv.com/ussumall.html Ohio
http://www.voteprotect.org maps Ohio county
http://www.votersunite.org Ohio

The Green recount teams in several counties also documented that the DRE touchscreens in some counties have individual votes by precinct stored in the computer memory and audits and hand recounts. One county, Lake, produced a sample printout of 3 % of the votes from election day and carried out a handcount of this printout tabulation, which matched the computer compilation. Which should not be suprising. But it should also be noted that the Ohio Secretary of State forbid recounts of the touchscreen votes in other counties where it was requested. Indications of fraud have been found in at least 3 of the other touchscreen counties in Ohio and further audit of the machines in those counties would likely have produced further evidence of these problems. The Greens are continuing their efforts in this regard, but are meeting with resistance.
The Green recount teams in several counties also documented that the Triad Manufacturer representatives have a remote patch to the Triad compilers and can make changes to the compilers remotely. They maintain and test them remotely, and on election day had a running tally of votes on their company website as the votes came in.

"The Green recount teams in several counties also documented that the Triad Manufacturer representatives have a remote patch to the Triad compilers and can make changes to the compilers remotely. They maintain and test them remotely, and on election day had a running tally of votes on their company website as the votes came in."

This is all it requires anywhere to produce a fraudulent result. I feel pretty sure that this was done in FL as well (though it wasn't Triad there I guess) and wherever the result might put the election in doubt. The Triad "compilers" are the "central tabulators" I presume, which in the case of Diebold, as Bev Harris demonstrated on TV with Howard Dean, have a special screen that allows for easy access for the quick and easy alteration of results. Very snappy and professional. They've had years to perfect it by now.

Some of the issues documented that caused significant swings:

touchscreen vote switching

manipulation of voters to result in loss of provisional votes mainly in minority precincts- this included both official malfeasance and systematic dirty tricks

manipulation of absentees

manipulation of ballots to produce lost votes, overvotes, undervotes,

large numbers of votes with clear voter intent but rejected by machines for reasons such as machine recognizing as overvote or undervote

These also were found to have swung large numbers of votes in Florida in 2000 and 2004, but no interest shown so far in Florida in investigating the source of the fraud and manipulation.

of e-machines to allow more people per machine, and then decision not to go to e-machines, and not change the precincts back. http://www.portlandphoenix.com/features/other_stories/multi1/documents/04258174.asp

And-- actually that was only a loss of 700 precincts this time around -- in 1999 there was a loss of over 900 precincts (while adding over 800,000 registered voters in the last eight years) -- think that long lines and dienfranchisement had anything to do with 2000 being the lowest presidential election turnout in Ohio history since 1980? Think that 2000 Florida problems overshadowed problems Ohio might have had reported that year?

see numbers in this thread if you haven't seen them already

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=172x5244#5265

He ended up casting many votes in Ohio, and as the inspection will uncover, he had his fingers in many, many more.

Yep, just covered in ink.

I'm sitting here thinking... when would be a good time to show up in Ohio? How about the Kent State anniversary? Another 4 Dead in Ohio? Yes, 4 hundred thousand dead votes.

What can be done about it? They've cheated and lied and manipulated, what else is new? What can we Do?

http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html

I think its at
http://www.flcv.com/2004plan.html

It's also appalling that the powers-that-be are treating it like a valid, conclusive recount :eyes:

:bounce:

KEEP HOPE ALIVE

website, where the entire letter was posted, and contained links to the Cobb/Lamarche site. (This paragraph was about how the recounts were not conducted within Ohio Law)

They read the first paragraph and the last paragraph.

It was a long letter, I was addressing a couple of things, and sent it to them as an "information" piece (asking their reporters to investigate more), hoping that they'd take part of it for their forum/feedback feature.

One person has commented so far (if it was anyone from DU, thank you!) -- This feedback feature (posting on a website, allowing others to comment) is a relatively new feature of WMUB (88.5 Oxford, Oh), and not many people have commented on the letters WMUB has posted. It might wake them up a bit if this particular letter gets some hits...commments...

http://www.wmub.org/feedback/feedbackblog.html

From Raw Story: Several volunteer workers in the Ohio recount in Clermont County, Ohio have prepared affidavits alleging serious tampering, violations of state and federal law and possible fraud. They name the Republican chief of Clermont’s Board of Elections Daniel Bare and the head of the Clermont Democratic Party Priscilla O’Donnell as complicit in these acts.

These volunteers, observing the recount on behalf of the Greens, Libertarians and Democrats, assert that during the Dec. 14, 2004 hand recount they noticed stickers covering the Kerry/Edwards oval, whereas the Bush/Cheney oval seemed to be “colored in.”

Some witnesses state that beneath the stickers, the Kerry/Edwards oval was selected. The opti-scan ballots were then fed into the machines after the hand recount.

the lockdown...18 phantom votes in precinct 4. The missing page from the roster in precinct 4. Warren is rife with problems.