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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:13 PM
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John Kerry is a flip flopper
He conceded before he unconceded.
Oh the irony.
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BayStateBoy Donating Member (562 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:14 PM
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1. Count All the Votes...Flip Flopped Fast
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:14 PM
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2. He unconceeded?
:shrug:
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:14 PM
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3. Unconceded?
Link?
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:15 PM
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4. Actually, he just conceded. Whatever gave you an idea he
un-conceded or will un-concede?
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FM Arouet666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:15 PM
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5. Ohhh the Horror.....
:evilgrin:
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:17 PM
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6. my man
count on the uncountable
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:19 PM
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7. "I actually lost before I won"
EOM
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:33 PM
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11. Funny!
:7
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:01 AM
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21. If this election actually flip flops, that should be the first
sentence of his Inaugural speech. After of course he gets done thanking the Chief Justice, the Speaker, the members of the House and Senate, the rest of the Supremes, his driver, tailor, the caterer and all those others gathered together that day. ;) (ok he can be a bit...ponderous.)
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ever_green Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:33 AM
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27. lol, I love it.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:53 AM
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30. You mean "I actually won before I lost."
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VivaKerry Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:20 PM
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8. I am disappointed that John Edwards had the gumption
to say, "we won't concede until every vote is counted." Why mention something that RADICAL if you have no intention of following through? Disappointing.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:30 PM
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10. Kerry evidently made the decision to concede Wednesday morning..
When Edwards introduced Kerry it didn't look to me that Edwards was ready to concede but it likely wasn't his call.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:33 PM
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12. Yes that is the statement that has me on a fence
I will keep up the volume so that our people can fight for every vote -- I am donating to BBV and I will track the breaking stories of vote fraud -- and email and do what I can.

But the GOP will be fighting the simple task of voting every ballot.

So far I feel the only one who is out fighting is Bev and perhaps ironically Nader (and damn it I might have to eat a crow sandwich if he does make a difference in getting the votes counted).

I TRUSTED Kerry and Edwards and I don't trust politicians easily.

I keep hoping that I will have to take back anything less than complementary I've said about Kerry&Edwards.

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VivaKerry Donating Member (609 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:30 AM
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26. I know! HOPE IS ON THE WAY struck me at the core
I really, really, really believed it.

I, too, hope very much to eat my words re disappointment. I don't feel like this is over, and that gives me hope.

Only bev/bbv, you are right. And keith olbermann was masterful tonight.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:32 AM
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33. I agree, on everything you said
And sincerely welcome you to DU. I'm so glad that you found us, and that you are among friends, during this tough time.:grouphug:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:29 AM
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32. That broke my heart, as well
I heard that speech, live, and took heart from it. I realize that he's not the one calling the shots, but he must have run that speech by Kerry, before he made it. That's the one thing that causes me to believe that something's up with the Democrats.:shrug:
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:27 PM
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9. Hahaha.
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Bozos for Bush Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:36 PM
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13. Knock it off!
These fair weather fans drive me nuts.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:38 PM
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15. I was kidding.
I like Kerry.
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:38 PM
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14. He lost before he won
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:40 PM
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16. I like your attitude. If we can't laugh at ourselves, who can we laugh at?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:42 PM
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17. Oh honey, we're all flip-floppers.
Edited on Mon Nov-08-04 11:43 PM by Kurovski
It's the goofiest argument ever.

No irony there.

But so far it DOES looks like Kerry LIED about fighting for our vote as he stated he would during the campaign.

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SuburbanGA Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:51 PM
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18. yea i always remember
the statement. help is on the way ? where is our help? what does he have to lose? If the roles were reversed the republicans would fight until the death. I think i am tired of being a democrat
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:03 AM
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22. Just wait and see.
Hang out for awhile. :)
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:52 PM
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19. Nice to have the last laugh, huh?
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:00 AM
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20. I didn't hear John Kerry "concede."
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 12:01 AM by Floogeldy
I heard him comment, based on the vote count with which he was confronted at the time, that there weren't enough votes left to win Ohio.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not hoping against hope. But what is the deal with the legal fund for recounts that Senator Kerry is soliciting donations for? (Damn, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I usually will not put!)
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littleleaguemom Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:16 AM
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23. Conceding means nothing if he has the votes
It's up to the vote count submitted by the Secretaries of State. Not a single state has been certified - New Mexico isn't even finished counting.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:22 AM
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24. Welcome to DU, littleleaguemom!
Unless you just changed your name, in which case, I'm glad you are sticking around! :)
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littleleaguemom Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:30 AM
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25. Thanks!
I've been lurking a long time and finally got up the nerve to post.
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illuminaughty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:35 AM
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29. Welcome from a former lurker!
Thanks for the positive reminder. No votes have been certified!
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:26 AM
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31. I also welcome you to DU, littleleaguemom!
I agree, completely, and it's great to have you with us!:toast:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:43 AM
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28. Bush* and Cheney are the worst flip-floppers
Listen to what they say, then how they try to spin it. John Kerry has been on-message, and I totally understand his positions. As far as Bush* is concerned, he totally lost me when he invaded Iraq as a reprisal for 9/11, which was orchestrated by Osama bin Laden, who was U.S. ally, during the Soviet assault on Afghanistan, just as Saddam Hussein was a U.S. ally during his war with Iran.:crazy:
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