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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:01 AM
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Maybe we should infiltrate fundamentalist churches
I've been wondering if we Dem activists ought to go in pairs and infiltrate fundamentalist churches over the next couple of years, just to be able to report back on the politicking and the ginning up of hatred.

They love sinners who come to confess and seek redemption. That Baldwin brother and that Reagan brother are perfect examples.

I could pull it off. I know the whole shtick. But could I take it? That's the real question. Music by a "worship team"? Ten choruses of a Gaither song during the altar call? All that backslapping during the coffee hour? And the cheer of potluck night and the Autumn Bazaar?

What say you?
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:05 AM
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1. I'd rather............
circumcise a rabid wolverine with a butter knife.
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2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:26 AM
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5. Pick the right religion, and who knows?
You may be able to do both without leaving the compound.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:09 AM
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2. Infiltrate the chamber of commerce
There's just as many Bush votes that come from rural small businesses as there is fundies. They want us to focus on this fake culture war to keep us off the fact that corporate America is taking over America. You'd have alot better chance showing small business owners that voting R isn't in their best interest than this tiny fraction of fundies. They DID NOT win this election. But it is fun to tell a small business owner that it's great the evangelists pulled through for them. They don't like that either.

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Soup Bean Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:10 AM
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3. I grew up around all that.
I think the freedom to worship is part of what makes America great. I don't like the idea of "infiltrating" anything. It just doesn't feel very "American", whatever that means anymore.

I agree that the basic nature of the fundamentalist churches keeps the American populace dumb and in line. It's sad, it's frustrating, and it hurts America.

But, you have to love a country that gives its citizens the right to disagree vociferously with its policies.

If America does edge toward a Southern Baptist Theocracy, the people will revolt. Nobody wants Bertha Better Than You telling them how to live their lives.

Fundamentalist churches are kind of like a really harsh form of Xanax. I think it gives some people a sense of moral absolutes, and gives you a black and white view of the world.

However, the people in power would never, ever let those types of religious rules become the law of the land. It would crimp their lifestyles.

The churches should be made to pay taxes. A LOT of taxes, if they insist on furthering a political agenda. Then, people would stop going to those churches that insist on supporting ridiculous, out of date BS.

I'm sick that Jesus has come to be used as a tool by the very people he supposedly fought so hard to overturn.

America is in a mess.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 05:12 AM
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4. Where do you find them?
I'm Episcopalian
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 06:25 AM
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6. Better: attend mod-to-lib mainline churches and support them instead.
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 06:26 AM by demo@midlife
They need all the support they can get as the lone existing institutions with an alternative voice out there. Fundy churches don't need any more numbers to brag about.

Get educated in a good adult class about how to articulate a faith that actually follows Jesus's life and teachings, so we don't come up short next time we have to counter the fundy madness.

Go to a fundy church and try to speak out, and they'll start trying to save your sould and they will NOT listen to you in their own territory.
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:36 AM
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7. I'm almost in...
I hang with some Christian Dudes...I have gone to a few events with him. Havent gone to the Sunday services yet. Once a month the whole service is music...that will be my first time.

I dont have too high hopes...another Christian Friend (I consider him to be a REAL christian) tried to talk against the war...that went over like a lead balloon...He has had a hard time finding a church that he can deal with politically.
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