Interesting Conversation with Reporter today

A Reporter for a, shall we say, VERY MAJOR, metropolitan paper, based in the NE, told me today that it is not the Reporters on the ground who are stifling this story. It's the Editors who are reassigning reporters to, essentially as he put it, bullshit stories. People in middle-management are afraid for their careers, and don't want to be on the chopping block. But there's a lot of sniffing - the young pups want to emulate Woodward and Bernstien (they should only know what REALLY went on there - things are not always as they seem). This would be a much bigger story than Watergate.It would stagger the very pillars upon which this country was founded and would 'shake the world'.

I believe, as so many others here do, that things are beginning to break. Stay tuned...Developing...


ON EDIT: Funny thing: he said that he and other reporters were surfing all these websites looking for info. Now THAT'S what they call Bullshit Reporting in J-School. What you'e supposed to do is go out and TALK to people and get them to confess their superiors' sins. Schmucks all the way around.

Can't keep the slaves down, huh.

The law of unintended effects strikes again.

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:hi:

We need some hungry young reporters who are looking to make a name. Someone who will say, "Damn the torpedoes!" and do his/her job!

Thank you for posting this. It gave me goosebumps.

That's the Philadelphia Weekly...that's an alternative paper.

You weren't around for the Kennedy Assassination Days when alternative papers were the only places which talked about this stuff. There is essentially no circulation - it's like preaching to the choir. NBC News is not gonna footnote the Village Voice.

We read the internets!

Blogs and forums are how rathergate hit the mainstream media.

LOL!!! fergot about dat

husband is complaining. I told him..........I WOULDN'T BE DOING THIS IF KERRY WOULD HAVE WON FAIR AND SQUARE!!!!

We still have the Kerry/Edwards sign on our lawn and we won't take it down.

My husband just walks in here, plants a kiss, laughs at me and rolls his eyes.

He says "Savin' the world?"

I say, "yup."

He knows what happened, and he knows that it's REALLY dangerous for all of us.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/110804_stolen_election.shtml

:kick:

in count the vote.

Mine just got his eyes opened -- when he learned that the computers which count the vote are connected to the internet. He's a computer engineer and his bro (MIT engineer) just sent a family e-mail about the problems with BBV. This information came after hubby was battling a data miner in his work computer which is connected to the Internet. Other secure computer he works on are NOT connected to the internet.

NOW he understands! Just 7 days after the election. After all we lesser beings (non engineers) don't know what we are talking about (NOT)! <said with much humor you engineering types!>

saying "they're up there"! He had my daughter come up to me the other day and say "mommy, where are the hidden people?". LOL. He's a big * hater (actually called him "half a Hitler" - guess rove is the other half.

I think some inside source needs to get "voter's remorse" and start sharing some important information...

So, who are the disenfranchised bush people? Who might come forth as a stealth source?

Real newspaper people, not these sniveling careerists that seem to populate the media today.

Woodward now appears to feed at the trough.

asking Why Are'nt You Reporting What Is Going On? The news is going to break and you have a chance to make history. I also said how betrayed I feel by them not saying anything while our democracy is at stake. I said you might get in trouble now for reporting the truth, but we'll all be in much bigger trouble later if you don't.

:toast: If one of our letters can find its way to the right person, someone willing to stick his/her neck out for a possibly abundantly rewarding story, this'll break. Middle-management may not want to risk their careers in the data-gathering stage, but they might change their minds if a complete story is handed to them. I hope.

Couldn't a gumshoe find out stuff for us?

I think we can shake loose as much as any gumshoe could. Or we can contact the people who can. ;)

Any cops on DU?

I figured we had to have some folks here with various kinds of access to all manner of data. Fifty-thousand is a good sample. :) You might want to ask that question in its own thread, looking for different ideas on data gathering.

And Major Bush fund raisers?

Like NY Times did with Swift Liars connections?

Anyone got Lexus Nexus?

Perhaps there are some ties to certain counties in Ohio that we don't know about. Also, how did each county determine its method of voting? Are there commonalities of any sort between the counties with similar voting machines? How did the vote go in those counties? What did the exit polls say? What was the official turnout vs. what is the anecdotal evidence of turnout?

I would bet the local newspapers would have this information. Some would be available online. The anecdotal evidence might be harder to find.

Board Members

Susan Johnson, Director
Sharon Fisher, Deputy Director
Robert Hammock, Chairperson
Stella Hagemeyer, Board Member
Barbara Sizemore, Board Member
Leslie J. Spaeth, Board Member

http://www.co.warren.oh.us/bdelec/

Leslie Spaeth is also one of _bush's electors. Is that normal?

I googled her name with _bush's and found a link to a PDF file, but I don't know how to post a PDF link.

Another name on the elector list is David Johnson. Johnson is common name, but could be husband of Susan. :shrug:

Is Leslie Spaeth any relation to Merrie Spaeth, the woman who runs the PR firm that was linked to the Swiftboat ads?

I did some googling last night, but couldn't find a connection between them.

There are a couple of threads on this, and DUers found some other interesting stuff.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x35535

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2656749

One Leslie Spaeth is listed in the WWI Honor Roll of Middletown, Ohio. Another entry is an article about a settled power struggle between Spaeth (who is also Warren County GOP Chairman) and Mason City Councilman, Tom Grossman. I can't find any connection to Merrie, but I did find out that Merrie was born in Philadelphia in 1948. :shrug:

""Don't gumshoes have access to databases we don't have access to?"
Posted by rosebud57
Any cops on DU? "

there are a LOT of DUers, but the 54,000+ number represents everyone who ever registered, including duplicats and a LOT of now tombsoned freepers (as well as, sadly, too many non-freepers who also got tombstoned for various reasons).

enough to join.

last night - Followed by some commentary on some hot new Latin woman singer. All delivered in this chirpy, cutsey tone of voice. I constantly am thinking about the hell going on in Fallujah, and the US press is fostering deep denial of reality.

They lulled the lefties into thinking that NPR and THE NEw Yorker were "It". then they betrayed us...completely.

I hate that fucking NPR - not one fucking dime for them ever again. I don't need their umbrellas.

said 3 NY Times reporters are on it.

Here's hoping they clear it up one way or another.

And someone from above disabused them of that notion.

cuz that's what is needed

then an audience with peoples sense of outrage, something these ass holes have obscured.

Flynt? Is he still in Paris?
The man pretty much stopped Gingrich in his tracks, after all.

I have no problem with that.

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A Reporter for a, shall we say, VERY MAJOR, metropolitan paper, based in the NE, told me today that it is not the Reporters on the ground who are stifling this story. It's the Editors who are reassigning reporters to, essentially as he put it, bullshit stories.

By any chance could that newspaper be one whose name rhymes with "Blue Stork Chimes"...?

:evilgrin:

Butt, hoo nose?

and Jake Tapper have been drinking Kool Aid all night. You should see the report they did on "votergate". The meme throughout the segment was conspiracy theorists....."BAD, BAD, internet"...."e-mail spamming" "make us work hard and read"...but not one word on some of the problems. Not one. Tapper used to write for Salon, but he wants to run with the Big Boys so he sold his soul back during the 2000 election. Fucking Heathers. We don't need to get rid of the politicians. We need to get rid of the stupid ass pundits who think they have the moral authority to run the world.

his claim to fame: he had a date with Monica once. B.F. Deal. He was catapulted to fame as he was asked the question sotto voce over and over:(fill in the blank).

He then became an 'expert' on everything from BJ's 9he denied getting one) to international polititcs. Must be nice.

Salon should be above his level.

If any of this is true, the man is betraying his country.

If he wants to get his story out, there are a million blogs and a million webpages to take to. The information hiway is wide open.

Is there some reason why this craven dog is not taking this important story public?

editors are all GOP. will be tough to get through that wall

Once the story hits the streets, the money-hungry media moguls won't be able to ignore it.

If he has actual facts, and not just hearsay. It is pretty easy to dismiss hearsay

getting it past the wingers who work the editing desk will be daunting

And we'll tell friends and family who'll forward it to everyone they know.
See how it works? Don't need the editors or their papers.
We've got e-word of mouth.

If so, they're bound to find out they 'misunderestimated' their employees. :evilgrin:

Tell a reporter "Don't look over there!" and watch what happens. :eyes:

LOL.

"People in middle-management are afraid for their careers, and don't want to be on the chopping block."

Talk about your sunshine patriots. Shame these sloths into putting their country ahead of their careers. This short-term gain doesn't justify the longterm loss.

When she first broke BBV, she said this is the biggest story in the history of our country. I think she's right.