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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:46 PM
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Republicans attempt to spin the fraud issue in Ohio - THIS STINKS
The "American Center for Voting Rights" claims to be a non-partisan organization but the contact, Jim Dyke, was the RNC Communications Director during the 2004 election and is currently a "Republican Strategist" for FOX News.

Thor Hearne, lawyer for the ACVR, is a member of the Republican National Lawyers Association and is currently counsel for Bush-Cheney '04 Inc.



Bush-Cheney '04 Inc. Counsel Thor Hearne (center) with RNLA Members D. Michael
Grodhaus, Kurt Tunnell, Bill Todd and Rick Siehl (left to right) at the Ohio RNLA Chapter
Reception March 9, 2005. (Source)



This release coincidentally comes the same day as J. Kenneth Blackwell is scheduled to testify before a House committee. This is clearly a Republican attempt to spin the fraud issue in Ohio.




March 21, 2005

ACVR Refers Voter Fraud Investigation To Deptartment
of Justice, Congressional Oversight Panel


Report Shows Third Party Effort to Circumvent Law and Register Illegal Voters
Contact: Jim Dyke, 843/722-9670

COLUMBUS, OHIO – Today the American Center for Voting Rights (ACVR) referred a compendium of preliminary findings of registration fraud, intimidation, vote fraud and litigation to the U.S. Department of Justice. The report was previously made available to the House Administration Committee who will hold a field hearing on election fraud in Columbus today.

The Ohio report states, “Third party organizations, especially ACT, ACORN and NAACP engaged in a coordinated “Get Out the Vote” effort. A significant component of this effort appears to be registering individuals who would cast ballots for the candidate supported by these organizations. This voter registration effort was not limited to the registration of legal voters but, criminal investigations and news reports suggest, that this voter registration effort also involved the registration of thousands of fictional voters such as the now infamous Jive F. Turkey, Sr., Dick Tracy and Mary Poppins. Those individuals registering these fictional voters were reportedly paid not just money to do so but were, in at least one instance, paid in crack cocaine.

After giving the report to the Department of Justice, ACVR General Counsel Thor Hearne stated in testimony prepared for delivery before the House Administration Committee, “there can be no doubt that election safeguards are critical to protecting our elections. When Dick Tracy’s fraudulent vote is counted, an honest Ohio voter is disenfranchised. So I find it is beyond the pale that the same organizations who unsuccessfully sought to remove election safeguards by judicial fiat during the election are once again seeking to eliminate these safeguards by state and federal legislation while continuing their battle in the courts.”

Hearne will testify on this issue today before the House Administration Committee.

ACVR is a non-partisan 501(c)(3) legal and education center committed to defending the rights of voters and working to increase public confidence in the fairness and outcome of elections. The group is compiling similar reports for the states of Florida, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin which will be released in the coming weeks.

more here




Domain Registration info for American Center for Voting Rights:

Registrant:
American Center For Voting Rights (DEPEKXYITD)
8409 Pickwick Lane #299
Dallas, TX 75225
US

Domain Name: AC4VR.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
American Center For Voting Rights (39239964O) jim@dykeassociates.com
8409 Pickwick Lane #299
Dallas, TX 75225
US
2143693141


Record expires on 17-Mar-2006.
Record created on 17-Mar-2005.
Database last updated on 21-Mar-2005 15:33:11 EST.


Note that this domain was registered on March 17th, 2005. Just one business day prior to the testimony before the House committee.
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ohtransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:56 PM
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1. Nonpartisan?
501(c)(3)? Contributions tax deductible?

I may be jumping to conclusions after only a couple days but given the text of their press release, I wonder how they plan to defend their status after the develop a track record. Looks partisan to me.

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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 04:27 PM
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2. We knew this was coming. They need to make the issue so fuzzy that
everyone looks dirty and no one can make sense of who should have won.
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 01:02 AM
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12. "no one can make sense" = no basis for confidence
smartvoter, what you said was already true before this "election" and has been the core argument of the No Confidence Movement since last April:

"There is no basis for confidence in the legitimacy of results reported from U.S. federal elections."
--The No Confidence Resolution

To understand what this is about and how you can help, see the No Confidence Movement Strategy and Talking Points Primer.
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 08:46 PM
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16. It's an across-the-board modus operandi, not just w/ elections. nt
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 02:51 AM
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17. Totally true. In the first version of the No Confidence Resolution...
there were six entities that were mentioned, six targets of infinite skepticism: the administration, Congress, SCOTUS, corporate media, election machines, and machine manufacturers.

I still see no basis for confidence in any of the six. After doing many presentations in my community and gathering feedback to learn what would get people's support, the No Confidence Resolution became more specific to voting. Even still, through all the version changes, this is a key statement in the Strategy and Talking Points Primer:
I can not overstate the importance of understanding that the No Confidence Resolution posted on this site is a TEMPLATE. This needs to fly in town after town and they don't all have to call for exactly the same reforms. The key frames that make the No Confidence Movement work are BASIS and Consent. As I recently learned in Rebecca Solnit's "http://print.google.com/print%3Fq%3Drebecca%2Bsolnit&pg=1&sig=5sW3sAHfpk8XY91zfPjJmWuNu7w">Hope In The Dark," revolution is not a mere change in leadership but a shift in the balance of power between the people and their government. Of course, if we are not having a say in elections, in influencing changes in leadership, then how could revolution be anything less than restoring the franchise, and how could that not be a shift in the balance of power?
In his doomed from the start candidacy, Kucinich used to ask "how much change are you ready for?" He was never serious like this. All ideas belong on the table because all bets are off. Our way of life is being re-thought for us. It's time to think it back. If you're not ready to get behind No Confidence, perhaps consider ways to get "peaceful revolution" into everyday talking points or in prominent visual displays.

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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 08:08 PM
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3. Wow another tax exempt phony.
These guys are really popular nowadays. Tax-excempt everywhere, everywhere you go.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:01 PM
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8. Hope someone keeps an eye on them after they have a track record
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 09:04 PM
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4. Ha Ha, here is what I put in their contact form, one line at a time
name: nice try
address: from an ohioan that knows better
city: ask the Mighty Texas Strike Force
zip: about all those calls they made in Columbus
phone: from a pay phone on Nov 2, 2004
comments: and don't forget the 100 Franklin County voting machines that sat in storage.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 10:58 PM
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9. Good idea Rosebud! That was fun! Here's mine!
Name Laughing out LOUD!!!
Address Jim Dyke and Thor Hearne non partisan????
City TOOO FUNNY!!!


Comments: How Did you convince the IRS of this?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 09:37 PM
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5. This whole "reality" industry in the USA is going to be a mammoth
machine like no other. The amount of money the corporations will have to put into planting stories on the internet bulletin boards and starting new committees to confuse issues...

Well it will just build and build and build as we Liberals get more sophisticated with our message.

Can you feel yourself getting more sophisticated? I mean..we do this stuff for free and we get more adult, and more discerning about where we have to fight. And we get angrier which simply means we give more 'volunteer time' to the cause of battleling the Repuke propaganda. We will grow and the pendulum will pick up disillusioned former Bush voters.and our messages will be better coordinated. And all the time we do this for free because we love our countries. And the Repukes only do it if they get paid or can throw money at a group to 'start it up' or to 'make it tribal'. And they don't have numbers...

We will just build our opposition and our rightful machine about the plurality of America and Good information. And we don't have to invest in targeting others. We don't have to invest in trying to teach people to not be naturally human (they have to invest money in trying to teach their followers to be unhuman and cold & adolescent).

We are nature and we will grow. And it will cost the Repukes and the GOP and their supporters a pretty penny for each and every attempt to combat THE TRUTH. And it is mostly not tax deductible (they would have to admit propaganda then). They will have to build an army the size of the Himalayas to keep up with us...and to keep smudging the truth. It costs us nothing and pays for itself in the reward that loving your country and your neighbors brings. But they don't understand about that. They are sociopaths and corporations and the 'kick the small rich'. They are MBAs who drank too much kool-aid. They will destroy their own dam selves.



Don't you feel more sophisticated?
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 09:52 PM
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7. You got that right...............n/t
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 06:04 AM
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18. " And they don't have numbers... "
Just wanted to pull out that quote from your post. It's so true, and they know it.

This is a wonderful thread. I love all you guys.
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 06:42 AM
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20. Well to be schtick about it...
They do have the odor of something very familair breathing down all their collective necks......


TRMPAC and Tom Delay.....The total Texas Strike Force incorporated salvage operation. Possibly to distract attention away from putting Tom Feeney and the gang in jail and create a little war.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 09:39 PM
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6. Anyone have any idea how much shit like this costs the elites? I'd
love to see a study of how much volunteer hours of a democrat cost the Repuke Elites in 'countermeasures'. We know they have to pay for it.

Our perpetual campaign is free because it is voluntary. There perpetual campaign is based on suppression of the truth.

Come on ... someone tell me! If I invest 1000 hours in the cause - what does that cost some Elite (out of pocket and with not tax savings).

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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:04 PM
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10. Bush-Cheney Counsel Thor Hearne isn't doing charity work.
He don't look cheap.

...and what kind of name is "Thor" anyway?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 01:46 AM
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13. Exactly. I bet those puppies they sneak into the DU to start annoying
threads charge a consulting fee for their geopolitical knowledge. What? $50 an hour?

WELCOME ALL FREEPER AND TROLLS. WELCOME!
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:17 PM
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11. Notice the email address - jim@dykeassociates.com
From http://www.campaignline.com/printedition/subscribe.cfm?pageid=560&navid=9&redurl=/printedition/index.cfm?navid=9">Campaign & Elections website:

NEW FIRMS: Veteran Republican communications strategist Jim Dyke left his position as communications director at the Republican National Committee (RNC) to start his own consulting firm, Jim Dyke & Associates.

They certainly don't make the trail hard to follow.
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 08:59 PM
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14. I've got a list of 65+ websites to groups/individuals who
would probably like to tell these folks to kiss their collective asses.

I am one of them.
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berniew1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 01:00 AM
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15. Hardly any election fraud here! this is a scam coverup; but real fraud
Edited on Wed Mar-23-05 01:04 AM by berniew1
(election fraud) is documented here
http://www.flcv.com/ohiosum.html


ps: since the Dems have the most real documentation and ammunition; why do they allow the Repubs to be the only ones pursuing and prosecuting election incidents?

Everyone one needs to be careful to understand the difference in election fraud and minor inconsequential voter fraud or fraud that had little to do with the election, and keep the Media straight on this.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:51 AM
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19. Kick for bringing them out from under rocks...n/t
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