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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:18 AM
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Another report on the election that needs us to correct them!
the 1st paragraph shows the level of success in bush propaganda!

http://www.carnegie.org/reporter/10/lessons/index.html


and just after the new article is out.. I think we should send copies of that to this man.. get him to revise his!


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x351187




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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:32 AM
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1. The whole first page was rather disarming, but...
Pages 2 thru 5 hit pretty hard and were broad in coverage.

These are from page 2.

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While accusations of voter intimidation, tampering with electronic voting, and biased election officials were most likely to get media attention, the greater problems are more mundane. The United States continues to operate an election system administered by too many state and local officials who tolerate serious flaws, inconsistent rules, unaccountability and high error rates that would be intolerable in any other important enterprise, such as banking or even Las Vegas casinos.

Long lines at polling places continued to take a heavy toll on election day, forcing many voters to choose between hours-long waits or not voting. The many local and state variations in eligibility and voting procedures also treat voters differently—depending on where they live and vote—thus undermining their right to equal protection for all under the Constitution. With over 200,000 polling places nationwide, operated largely by temporary paid staffs or volunteers, the complexity and scale of these problems makes solving them no small task. But they must be addressed because, as Vartan Gregorian, president of Carnegie Corporation notes, “Citizens having their voice heard through the casting of their votes is a symbol of the strength of our democracy. If large segments of the electorate doubt that their vote has been counted—or feel that obstacles to participation in an election have been put in their path—democracy itself is undermined and put at risk.”

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Many critics of their replacements, touch-screen systems (the most common form of “direct-recording electronic” systems), object mostly to their lack of a printed record of votes cast, preventing any way to verify accuracy. Votes are recorded electronically only, leading to suspicions that results can be manipulated without detection. “Without a paper trail, there’s simply nothing to check against in order to verify accuracy,” wrote a columnist in Computer World. Another critic called it a “faith-based” voting system.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:39 PM
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2. yes.. but this is the disconnect.. to say we know there were lots of..
problems, but bush won! I dont know what would lead them to believe that.. they must be looking at the diebold/ES&S/Triad counted numbers. We dont know the exact numbers, but we know exit polls showed Kerry won, and diebold/ES&S/Triad say bush won. There is denial running through every part of America, we dont wnat to admit we have been raped! Violated, taken advantage of, manipulated, and I for 1 am not going to sit by and let them say bush won without contest! I live outside DC and I have put my real estate business aside to join activist groups and try to make a difference. I have been working with David Lytel, among others... Kerry won.. bush was inagurated, and thats the problem! please I ask all people of common sense (reality based) to correct everyone you can talk to.. let them know Kerry won!
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