Boy, the media really has run with the US Vote Counts study, HUH?!

A quick Google search several days after the release of the US Vote Counts study reveals the massive interest the media has in the possibility that the 2004 election may have been fraudulent...

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=US+Count+Votes&ie=UTF-8

I count 6 or 7 stories, in the last few days, sorted either by relevancy or date. I see Prensa Latina in Cuba and Collective Bellaciao in France are hot on the story. Also, a small paper or two in Ohio (where there were many voter problems reported), and a blogger or two.

Gee, remember when Edison-Mitofsky released their "analysis" of why their exit polls were so wrong? It was all over the press! Their main conclusion was the completely unsubstantiated idea that Bush voters were less likely to speak to pollsters (Yeah, a quiet, subdued lot, those Bush voters).

Now, a months-in-the-making statistical study from a dozen prominent statisticians questions that analysis and the very results of the election and...


chirp
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...(sound of crickets)

DAMN LIBERAL MEDIA!!
(/SARCASM OFF)

... is really getting to be a bore!

:sarcasm:

.... that guy in the 25th row of the Pope's umpteenth memorial service are? How did JPII affect HIS life? What will HE remember most?

And what about the latest thought of Terry Schiavo's third cousin's dog-sitter's wife? Will she be suing?

There just isn't enough air-time to cover all these urgent stories!

pollsters in swing states. Imagine that.

I know people use "LOL" too much, but that really did make me laugh out loud.

Maybe next time the media should hire Ukrainian pollsters. Apparently their methods are more accurate.

As I understand it, a US polling firm did that polling.

The American public, including many of our election activists, have been sold a bill of goods on Ukraine, best I can tell. It was probably a covert action by the US, to overturn that situation.

in there somewhere. I just never quite figured out the hows and whys. But now that you mention it, I do recall US pollsters were involved.

I pretty much assume these days that anytime anything happens anywhere, it's a US covert action. Gotta dump those trillions of dollars somewhere.

like ABC's two-hour UFO special. Now THAT's a story.

"Their main conclusion was the completely unsubstantiated idea that Bush voters were less likely to speak to pollsters (Yeah, a quiet, subdued lot, those Bush voters)." --Brotherjohn

It's not just laughable, and worthy of ridicule (by anyone with common sense). It's more than that. The US Count Votes statisticians concluded that Edison/Mitofsky's story about Republicans avoiding their pollsters was without foundation, AND the found evidence in Edison/Mitofsky's own data that the opposite was true: that the exit polls were actually skewed to Bush--which means that Kerry's margin of victory was even greater than the exit poll 3%.

As for the lack of news monopoly coverage: Not unexpected. These were the same folks who gave us WRONG exit poll data on our TV screens on election day (exit polls "ADJUSTED" to fit the official result), almost total lack of coverage regarding the extremely insecure, hackable, non-transparent, BushCon-owned and controlled electronic voting system, the Swiftboat Liars and the unjustifiable, illegal, mass-murder called the Iraq War.

I wouldn't expect anything else from them, except more blackholing of the real news, and disinformation.

But it is good to point this out--AGAIN. Too many Americans are subconsciously hooked on news monopoly news (I think because it gives them a sense of community, of being part of the nation--even if they don't believe a lot of what they're told, they have this emotional attachment to it, and thus get propagandized in spite of themselves.)

Please keep in mind that, just as with the truth about Iraq WMDs, the truth about the 2004 election IS GOING TO TAKE TIME to become generally known. We cannot expect the news monopolies that gave us Bush--that are profiting from Bush--to expose Bush. It's not going to happen.

But we have succeeded time and again at overcoming this huge obstacle--the IRON CURTAIN over the news. Remember that the majority of voters didn't buy any of their lies. They figured it all out, in the end, and voted by a margin of 5% to 7% to oust the Bush Cartel.

What we have to deal with now is a depressed and traumatized population, whose will has been thwarted. The stolen election is having all kinds of psychological repercussions (including denial, and a re-dependence on the news monopolies).

Be patient and persistent. And hang onto the truth. The truth will out.

He said, "Those conspiracy theorists...Such a bang."

I sent a copy with a note to the St. Pete Times and my congressman...maybe a few thousand posts would get the media attention?

Because to call something that hasn't been published in a peer reviewed academic journal a "scientific paper" is an misnomer.

a whole bunch of PhDs reviewed their peer Mitofsky and found his report to be a load of shite.

... it and having some limited working knowledge of statistics (and some common sense).

However, I always keep a skeptical eye trained, particularly when a paper claiming to be a scientific study is "released" to the media first.

That's why I referred to it as "a months-in-the-making statistical study from a dozen prominent statisticians".

That in and of itself makes it worthy of at least more airtime than the thousandth interview with a grieving Catholic, or worse, with the millionth veteran who claims to have seen John Kerry shoot a kid in the back (but wasn't actually IN Viet Nam).

This study, whether or not it will EVER be published, has more validity that most innuendo and bulls*** that the MSM allows on air with ZERO fact-checking. At least there are statistical analyses within it that can be checked.

In addition, as far as publication in a scientific journal, no journal may ever touch it since it's such a hot potato. But even if it were published in "Statistics Monthly" or whatever, that would mean nil to most people who need to hear it and be affected by it (sad as that is to say).

I would think Einstein's Unified Fields theory was a scientific paper,
even though it was never published by the Prussian Scientific Society (or anyone else) as promised.

here's a study by academics that offers convincing evidence that the elction may have been stolen, and it's virtually ignored by the media . . . this is not an oversight on their part . . . the media is consciously choosing not to report this! . . . in fact, they are going out of their way to cover it up! . . .

think of all of the millions of Americans who get their news from the MSM and generally trust what they see and read to be accurate and reasonably comprehensive . . . if they don't hear about election fraud, then it didn't happen! . . .

what the media is doing with this story is more than negligent . . . it's unethical, and bordering on criminal . . . and the question that keeps coming back to me -- a registered Democrat for over 40 years -- is "Why isn't my party raising holy hell about this?" . . . could it be because they get their cash from the same corporate establishment that controls the news? . . . and they don't want to risk losing contributions by pissing off the corporate overlords? . . .

inquiring minds want to know . . .

Couldn't agree more! Especially the "Why isn't my party raising holy hell about this?" The media, we already knew about - our party, well, that's a little harder to accept. I mean I guess I didn't WANT to accept it, but damn, only a few brave congresscritters and Boxer ever acknowledged there were problems and now nary a peep from anyone... This report is like a little secret between bloggers, ya know? I'm guessin' it's time to re-join Indys or Greens and hope that in a few generations things will sort out. :-(

...and we all cancelled our subscription to the Sacramento Bee, who actually ran a 'moderate' editorial telling us to shut up, sit down, and stop rocking the boat. They can go to hell. These two stolen elections are Front Page Forever, until the criminals go to jail -- because until then, there is no America.

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I know!!!

I can't find out ANYTHING about the pope! Is he still dead?

Maybe we could have another week celebrating Ronald Reagan's life too. Just in case anyone's forgotten that HE is dead, too.