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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:03 PM
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John Conyers Meets With Pastor, Contacts BRAD BLOG!
http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001340.htm

John Conyers Meets With Pastor, Contacts BRAD BLOG!

Plans to Meet With Jimmy Carter, Daschle and Others on Commission to Detail Concerns!

The BRAD BLOG has just received a personal phone call from Congressman John Conyers (not from his staff, but from the good Congressman himself!), thanking us for the work that everyone has done on behalf of the nation to monitor the Baker/Carter "election reform" commission and seek fairness from it.

(more at link)



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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:08 PM
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1. Wow -- Brad's Having Impact!
That's amazing.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:11 PM
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2. Brad is a leader (nt)
www.missionnotaccomplished.us (plan on persistence as you reflect on why)
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 04:13 PM
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5. And he is Cute
too :evilgrin:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:35 PM
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10. ;-)
www.missionnotaccomplished.us (The.Day.WE.BEGIN..............)
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:03 PM
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11. Is he? I don't know what he looks like. Cute is high on the list when
fighting election fraud, huh Andy? How you feeling?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:37 PM
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14. I do agree there
:) I'm glad things are going around. I just hope there is something there where we can stop the thugs ruiling our country.
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 12:28 AM
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18. "Andy is cute"
Did you notice how Andy subtly sent his real message in his subject line! ;-)

Thanks for the supportive words guys. Even from Andy. This (small-for-now) victory belongs to all of you who made your voices heard! Keep it up! "We will not be ignored" :-)

Brad


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Im with Rosey Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 07:08 AM
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22. Don't sell yourself short!
This is no small victory. The complete about face in 2 days is incrediable... I sincerely hope that your name is forever etched in the halls of Great American Democratic Heroes! Without your hard work:evilgrin: we would be but just part of the lowly sheeple. I, for one salute you!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 01:16 AM
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20. lol yeah he is
:o
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:14 PM
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3. Yayyy! Congratulations BradBlog!
This is great news, it gives a little hope in the process.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 03:19 PM
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4. Conyers Blog is up.
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 03:20 PM by Wilms
And he's asked a favor of us.

-snip-

I appreciate the energy and activism that has led so many of you to communicate with Commission staff and members. At the request of Dr. Pastor, and in the interests of demonstrating your good faith efforts to work with the Commission, I would ask that you contact the commission only their the email box which they have established to receive your comments concerning the commission: cdem@american.edu. I have spoken with the leadership of the Election Reform groups which have been contacting the commission members to ask them if they would take this measure.

-snip/more-

http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000066.htm
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:07 PM
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6. I don't like this, and my rebellious soul wants to flout it--but I can...
...understand what kind of position Congressman Conyers may have been in, on the phone with this guy. It was likely a diplomatic gesture--on Conyers' part--and I wouldn't want to undermine Conyers. So I don't quite know what to do with this request. Obviously, it's a way for this private, pre-agendized "commission" to easily shove aside all election reform activist and citizen input and comment, and possibly deep-six it.

One thing I would say is, keep a record of your input--email logs, fax logs, registered letters. This may be useful later in establishing what the "commission" was apprised of (and what they ignored), in whatever "report to Congress" they finally issue.

Paper backup is always good--and the more papery the better (registered letters, FedEx records, etc.).

But we're dealing with an unofficial, private "commission"--overwhelmingly stacked against election reform and election fraud evidence. They have already removed elections from the public venue--with private BushCon companies counting the votes in secret. It just gets worse and worse. Why isn't this a Congressionally appointed "commission"? (It's not as if the BushCons couldn't stack that, too--but at least the stacking would have been more visible, and Democrats and others would have had an opportunity to object.)

We have NO RIGHT of input. That's what I'm getting at. It's PRIVATE. They don't have to keep records of anything. They don't have to do public notice or open meetings. They are not even beholden to the people in the tenuous way that Congresspeople are beholden.

I've dealt with privatization schemes as a public interest advocate. And one thing I've learned: You must challenge the venue, and the denial of the public right to information and notice FIRST AND FOREMOST, before anything else is said. Who has the power? Who selects who is going to have power? And who has the right to information? (And, often, who is paying whom?).

These are vital issues. This playing field (the "commission") is already tilted at a 90 degree angle, with us having been kicked clean off the field into oblivion right from the start. We, the citizens, the voters, the victims of election fraud '04, don't exist. All we can do is yell from the black hole we have been consigned to.

So--after we did a bit of yelling from that black hole, to the utter surprise of our betters--to now be further blackholed into a special email file, that will be tossed in after us, is egregiously insulting. (--not on Conyers part, but on the part of Pastor and his bosses).

They have us where they want us, and where they planned all along for us to be: off the playing field, with no rights whatsoever, even if we crawl through the event horizon, at peril of our lives, and bloodied and smashed to bits, pull ourselves together, don uniforms, rally our team and consider ourselves players--they have the right to grind their cletes into our hands, as we crawl through that hole, kick us in the groin, and shove us back off the playing field into the black hole, at their whim.

Bullies. Cheaters. Lords of the earth.

And, in the end, they are going to nationalize elections under their control. (That's my read on it.) So what do we do with this matter of...ahem...public input?

I am just saying to them: Tell Bush to enforce the Voting Rights Act! Tell Congress to rescind HAVA (stop bribing the states to purchase insecure, partisan-controlled election systems; and stop corrupting our local officials). And get the Bush Cartel the hell out of election reform. Then dissolve your private "commission" and go home. We don't trust your membership selection or your pretense of being an official body while the public has no rights whatsoever in your process.
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LatePeriduct Donating Member (660 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:55 PM
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7. Yep I'm sorry but thats the bottom line..
Until James Baker and Munro are forced to resign, and not have anything to do with this, then there is no way you can call this a bi-partisan commission.

Its too obvious and sour....If they don't want to play fair, I reccomend everyone sully the name of this commission and get members of the mainstream media to see how fake it is!

Every issue they keep adressing is voter fraud, voter fraud, voter fraud. Its the voters faults....And every day with the DREs they keep blocking to have a paper verified ballot. It wouldn't "cost" them anything, except their ability to control and rig democracy...

You got to hand it to them...Crafty, but not unobvious.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:38 PM
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15. Is there a way we can get them too?
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:26 PM
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9. Probably but
I'm still going to keep doing what I do,because maybe just maybe that one e-mail,phone call or letter might make the difference.

FIGHT FIGHT! NGU
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BradBlog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 12:30 AM
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19. Conyers meeting was in person...
For the record, Conyers met with Pastor in person.

Beyond that, I have reason to believe Conyers will be fooled by no one.

And beyond that, I agree, stay vigilant and keep making noise! It makes a difference!

Brad

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 08:07 PM
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8. Kick.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:09 PM
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12. You guys! Conyers is so outside the box in the way he operates! New
paradigms, new approaches...MSM is useless, so he goes around it. He knows the internet is where it's happening, so that's what he uses.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:20 PM
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13. We WON ONE! Pastor called Conyers and begged him to get
us off his back( you know all six or seven of us...):evilgrin:
We called and Pastor jumped to speak with Conyers the next day! Conyers is on it and we are his supporters!
Email the preferred address and tell Pastor that WE, THE PEOPLE, have Conyers' Back!
We are watching and we will be making lots of noise about what we see the whole time!
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Kip Humphrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 06:50 AM
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21. Me too - I will comply with Conyer's request: he deserves the respect
I won't let upthe pressure on the commission. So, I'm sending my emails to the new email address. I urge everyone to do the same.

New email: CDEM@american.edu
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:55 PM
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16. Yes! I'm SO glad I sent my e-mail to Pastor now!
We DO have the power! YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 10:59 PM
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17. Same here
I no longer worry about it but if someone asks to send an Email and stuff I do anyways. Even if it's just a short note with my opinions.
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