Argument I heard today against likelihood of tabulator problems

davidgmills

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Wed May-04-05 09:22 PM
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Argument I heard today against likelihood of tabulator problems

My father is still of the opinion that newspapers still publish precinct totals for their locales so that theoretically it is still possible to go to every newpaper in a given state and check for tabulator inaccuracies.

I know this was the case many years ago but have no idea whether itsill is today.

Anyone know for sure?

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Carolab

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Wed May-04-05 09:25 PM
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1. Tell your father that the reports he is likely to read come from SOS

Edited on Wed May-04-05 09:29 PM by Carolab

central or precinct tabulators, which CAN EASILY BE HACKED. So what he may or may not be reading is NOT a hand-counted total from pollworkers at the precinct, which USED TO BE how it was done way back in the old days. Now MACHINES do the counting instead.

IT'S THE TABULATORS, PEOPLE!!!!

WE NEED TO EITHER:

1. GET RID OF THEM.
2. MAKE SURE THEY ARE SECURE BY HAVING OPEN SOURCE CODE AND/OR BY AGGRESSIVE RANDOM AUDITS AT THE PRECINCT LEVEL AND THE CENTRAL OFFICE LEVEL.

Have your dad check out www.chuckherrin.com or www.votersunite.org

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kster

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Wed May-04-05 09:34 PM
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2. Check out this in illinois

snip....A discovery recount is not binding, so even if more ballots had been counted for Rossi, they would not have altered the official results.

snip....During Friday's partial recount, four boxes containing more than 1,200 ballots were retrieved from a locked room. Clerk's employees fed each ballot through the same vote tabulating machines used on Election Day. All Will County precincts use optical scan ballots.

The candidates and their attorneys were not allowed to handle ballots but could view each one. Rossi acted as his own attorney.

http://www.starnewspapers.com/star/spnews/fm/01-fm1.htm

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MissWaverly

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Wed May-04-05 09:35 PM
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3. tell your dad not in Maryland

I paid for my precinct results, they only show the total from the
machines, 944 all day for my precinct, and I waited 2 hours to vote
and estimated that there were at least 400 people there at that time alone, my neighbors said my polling place was jammed packed all day,
my sister worked a polling place in the suburbs and there were 2100 people voted there that day. They DO not show how many were counted in the poll book, the #'s only come from the machines.

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garybeck

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Wed May-04-05 09:50 PM
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4. precinct level tabulators

the precincts can still be wrong if they have tabulators there. plus I don't think it's correct that the newspapers publish that everywhere.

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