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Edited on Wed May-11-05 09:47 PM by Peace Patriot
...community and even some of the corporate establishment is going to turn against them. I do think you have identified real threats, and your warning is certainly apt. I agree that all of this could come to pass, quicker than we could guess. However, there are OTHER ways that it could go--some of them less frightening but still with huge problems in our democracy for us to solve.
Looking at precedents--say 1929 and the Great Depression--they are showing every sign of pushing the theft and profit-taking and looting of federal and state budgets, and the thievery of the rich against the poor, so far, that the economy will collapse, and a strong tide of revolution will result, which the financial and corporate powers might be able to ride out, keeping their powers pretty much in tact, by means of liberal solutions (a la the New Deal). We will still be left with the potential for another fascist coup down the line, if we don't severely rein in--or even dismantle--the financial and corporate system that is operating from our shores, but is not "of us" any more. They have no loyalty to the U.S. of A. or its people.
Such a financial collapse would likely halt expansionist plans, such as the invasion of Iran (and thus also the Draft, for instance). Come to think of it, they're probably trying to loot the Social Security fund in anticipation of a financial collapse--to pad the very richest pockets now, before it's too late. They've certainly got it set up to bankrupt a whole lot of people (something you didn't mention), but, as in the Depression, it doesn't do the banks much good to seize property that they can't re-sell (no one with the money to purchase it). Drilling in ANWAR may also just not be feasible if no one has the means to gas up their cars to the extent that we are doing so now, or to go on manufacturing petroleum-based products. Dick Cheney being Supreme Court Justice may be the least of our problems if they crash the economy.
It won't be pretty for the poor, I can tell you that. But I think it will require at the very least breadlines, government job creation, some control over banking, and other such measures to prevent bloody revolt.
However, the global financial picture is much more complex and hard to predict than it was in 1929--for instance, the U.S. now being in hock to China! What a beautiful irony it would be if Americans end up having a communist revolution against the mandarins of the old communist regime in China soon to be the capitalists of the world! (We have to keep our sense of humor, don't we?)
Then there is Germany 1933-34, the western country that took the worst economic battering during that period (mostly by design of the WWI victors). There is nothing even remotely funny about this haunting parallel. But there are some big things that do not favor it--America's size and diversity chief among them. We are not an easy country to control. Many, many subcultures; great diversity of people; great diversity of landscape--and a very strong tradition and history of democracy, as well as abhorrence of Nazism and all its permutations (which we have systematically evaluated and rejected over the years). There is no question that the Bush Cartel is acting like Hitler in many ways, but I think they may be in for a surprise if they try to carry militarization and ethnic cleansing that far.
If and when they finally crash the economy, a la 1929, would likely be our most vulnerable point, as to a Hitler-Mussolini-Stalinist type dictator taking over. But I doubt that Americans would easily fall for the cult of personality that is necessarily involved. We are not even close to being as homogeneous as those cultures, such that a stereotype of a stern father of his people would work here--we are too diverse and too irreverent and have too many among us with family memories of those tyrannies. Of course--who knows what a desperate and starving people might do? But I see something DIFFERENT happening here. I'm not sure what. Maybe something good--a genuine populist arising who could re-organize the economy along sustainable lines, and help RESTORE democracy. Or--as for bad possibilities--fakery, trickery, a dictator by another name (which we are close to having now).
A curious disconnection with both 1929 AND with Hitler and his ilk is that we did not have a 1929 here, in 2000 or 2004--no Great Depression. A lot of suffering, yes, but nothing like those days. Nor any great war, like WWI, that blasted Germany's economy. We were quite well off when Bush took over. He has wasted and depleted it all--and is most certainly out to loot the rest--but there has been no crisis, other than 9/11, to trigger the fascist policies that we are seeing. (A hidden trigger may be the oil cartel's awareness of the short life that oil has left as an engine of our economy.) What has 9/11 to do with looting Social Security or curtailing women's rights? It doesn't really add up--except when you look at it as an artificial, planned trigger--an excuse for repression and fascist looting.
Actually, the parallel that bothers me the most is the fall of the Roman Empire, because, with that fall, came a thousand years of darkness as to human progress and learning, a thousand years of ignorance and serfdom for most people (most westerners and northerners, anyway), and a long, slow and painful climb out of it to the period of the Enlightenment (which spawned Thomas Jefferson & friends). A thousand years. And I don't care what revisionist historians say about the monasteries in the Middle Ages and their preservation of learning, or the skills of the tradesmen who built the cathedrals, it was DARKNESS for most people--a near complete loss of medical knowledge, a near complete loss of literacy (widespread in the Roman Empire, utterly forgotten in the Middle Ages), a near complete loss of astronomical and scientific knowledge, and NO progress, or almost indiscernible progress, on all fronts--unchecked disease, plagues, tribal warfare, and oppression, and a trapped, slave-like existence for most.
We don't want to see that repeated. And some of the details of how and why Rome fell are riveting--and truly haunting. With the decline of the Republic in Rome and its original idealism, and the ascendance of the Caesars, the Empire over-extended itself in every way, with endless distant warfare to expand its frontiers and obtain new raw materials, and insufficient soldiers and income to maintain it. The Romans weren't such bad rulers, and it all worked for a while, creating a great and influential culture which non-Romans could join. Literacy, culture, trade, and high learning all prospered for a while, and the benefits were widely dispersed both in Rome and in its conquered lands. The culture jewel of the Empire, the Library of Alexandria, contained a monumental cache of all the learned texts in the known world, where scholars of any religion or belief system could study with perfect tolerance.
But the Empire was not sustainable. For instance, North Africa--the "breadbasket of the Roman Empire"--was becoming a desert, due to over-use of the land. The rich ruling families in Rome became merely acquisitive and luxury-loving, and not the noble civil servants of the Republic they had once aspired to be. Rome was losing its inspiration--its ability to hold people together. A number of mystical religions were on the rise during the later years of the Empire, among them Christianity, which were fulfilling a human need to be dedicated to something other than acquisition and exploitation. Notably, the Christians were anti-slavery, and provided solace to those who were left out of the general prosperity. The Christians, however, were quickly becoming an institution with ambitions to earthly rule, and when they came to power with the Holy Roman Emperors, began persecuting all others.
There was a brief resurgence of Roman idealism under the Pagan Emperor Julian who stopped the religious warfare with his "Edict of Toleration." (He was hated by the Christian patriarchs--and there was a tone of ridicule of the Pagans by the Christian writers of that period that is hauntingly similar to rightwing ridicule of "liberals" now.) By the end of the 4th Century, Rome was sacked by the Visigoths. In the 5th, the Alexandria Library was burned by fanatical Christian monks, and, at the order of a bishop who was rivaling the Romans for power, the renowned head of the Library, a famous and beloved philosopher, a woman named Hypatia, was seized and skinned alive by the same Christian monks, on the streets of Alexandria--with no retaliation by Rome (she was a Roman citizen). That was 415 AD, and the end of the Roman Empire and the beginning of the great darkness. And, like our era, the end was marked by a hatred of learning and culture, and of women.
Whatever might be said about the beginnings of Christianity, by the 5th century it was an earthly power run by men with great ambition. Their ambition and the institutions they created to some extent filled the governmental void left by the late Roman Empire. They were committed to their own power and material acquisitions, and found it convenient to preach poverty and obedience and mystical doctrines to all others, and, critically, omitted teaching the populace how to read, so that the true teachings of Jesus--his complete pacifism, his abhorrence of accumulated wealth, his egalitarianism, his love of his enemies--were not accessible to most. Result: kings and nobles and bishops accumulating vast wealth at the expense of others, serfdom for most, endless warfare and conscription, pogroms against the Jews, forced baptism, the Crusades, the imposition of power rather than the nurturing of belief, and the witch-trials and so on--a venomous suspicion of learning and of women.
This is not to say that Jesus's inspiration was not at work, at times, or that it is not a beautiful thing--the essence of Christianity. It is just to say that the loss of an essentially sectarian government--that of the pagan Romans--was a catastrophe for the human race, or rather, for western civilization, that it took a thousand years to recover from.
Given the impact of our civilization on the world's natural resources, we may not have the luxury of a thousand years to recover. We may well go extinct as a species--done in by our own cleverness and ingenuity.
The repressiveness and militarism of the Bush administration--and its immediate, nefarious plans as listed Kip Humphrey above--may be just symptoms of a dying civilization, rather than some weird new phenomenon (a la Hitlerism) that can be stopped and reversed. I am haunted by this. But I also know that history in truth does not repeat itself, and that we are the inheritors of an accumulated history that LED TO the concept of continual human progress, a better and better life for everyone, and a governmental system that can correct itself when it goes awry. Correct itself by voting.
That is why we must recover our right to vote. It is the most precious legacy of that accumulated historical record. It is the most important gift of our Founders to us. And our very existence as a species is hanging in the balance, largely due to U.S.-based global corporations and their impact on the planet. We are not the only offenders, but we do have the power to lead the way to sustainable living--if only we can get back control of our government.
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