Wisconsin State Journal article on voter-fraud.

http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/local/index.php?ntid=39799&ntpid=4

"The state's top election official said Thursday there may be several innocent explanations for why the number of votes cast in Milwaukee in November exceeded the number of people recorded as having voted - a figure many are citing as evidence, if not proof, of widespread election fraud."

Does anyone know how they tally votes there?

"Or voters might be able to sneak an extra ballot despite a roomful of election workers, poll watchers and other voters. Under either scenario, however, others are likely to notice when the ballots are slipped in the counting machine which emits a beep with each ballot, Kennedy said."

I'm not sure what kind of machine they use or whether they have a central tabulator there or not but it looks like electronic votes that can easily be tampered with once they leave th precinct computer.

Was there any major discrepancies in regards to polls there or not?

Passy, perhaps the Secretary of State's or the local election official's website would have the info on the voting system in use.

we can't let them reframe with "oh that's innocent".

Here's my mantra, where there's smoke there's mirrors. Do we know if wisconsin uses electronic or lever or optiscan or how they vote?

either way, in Georgia which is 100% DRE we are investigating at least 33,000 statewide PHANTOM VOTES (or more machine votes than voters showing up at the polls) and I'm also looking at a potential for 13-14% of the vote being Phantom votes based in individual county data which I have purchased..

My bottom line is for us to ask a few more questions of the election activists in that state:
a. get a isting of by county what technology or method used to vote.
b. start a systematic examination of how those existing 4K votes were 'unexplanably added'. FYI, that's a great way to commit fraud by creating phantom people and would certainly explain the 13M or so extra Bush voters that no one can seem to explain nationwide.

In georgia Cox our SOS estimated a Turnout of 64% statewide, guess what? our turnout was 78% statewide... why would she be off so far and that is a huge percentage 8 out of 10 registered voters voting fully 5% more than our highest voting year ever!!!

I'd love to write a letter to the editor or this Contact Phil Brinkman at pbrinkman@madison.com or 252-6145. person to tell him we think it's absolutely fraud and here's how...
I have Georgia documentation that can graphically show how phantom votes get created. What happened is we spent $53.9M on computers and they create ElectroChads to replace Hanging Chads (but worse, the electrochads are Phantom votes, meaning they don't correspond to a person voting, so there is no frame of reference from how that vote go there in the first place).


good luck and give me an update on how I can help!!

http://milwaukee.indymedia.org/en/2004/04/200893.shtml

Why does this matter in Milwaukee? We use optical scan machines produced by a company (ES&S) once owned by Nebraska Republican Senator Chuck Hagel who did not disclose his interest in the company when running for Senate his first time, but won in a landslide. Milwaukee allows a representative of ES&S to have the password to Milwaukee County's central vote computer. Prominent Democrats & Republicans don't believe this is anything to worry about. Research a 2002 election in San Luis Opisbo where their central tabulator "phoned home" in the middle of an election.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0309/S00067.htm

Also local election czar "Julietta Henry" does not allow citizens or press to view the precint memory card at the end of election day. We are told to "trust" the poll worker who reads them out at the end of the night, and no results are posted at the precint for others to see who may miss the vote count before the poll workers leave. All it takes is for one rogue precint captain with an agenda working in tandem with one of the 4 people with the password (including the ES&S rep.) to the central computer to tamper with the results. Their should also be robust random auditing of precints no matter how close the election. Also, no recount is possible in Milwaukee County unless one of the candidates ask for it. That's right, you the citizen cannot ask for a recount no matter how close the result if the losing candidate does not ask for it.

"Although the number of mysterious votes dropped this week from around 7,000 - first identified by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel in January - to 4,609 through an ongoing state and federal investigation, it constitutes by far the biggest share of disputed votes in the last election." from article linked above.

Kerry won Wisconsin by 11384 votes.
If there is 4 609 disputed votes what does it mean?
Did the repubs just about manage to steal Wisconsin?

The 4 609 votes amount to about 1% of the Milwaukee total.

However they account for 40% of the winning margin.

That was one hell of a tight race.

Kerry 49,699717%
* 49,319871%
Nader 0,546878%

http://elections.state.wi.us/docview.asp?docid=1416&locid=47

I have looked at the exit poll numbers and they don't make much sense.

The 12.21am nov 3 numbers show 49,2% for K and 48,8 for *
The 2.06pm nov 3 numbers show 49,7% for K and 48,8 for * (measured from gender question or 50,3% for K and 50,2% from ideology question???)

As we can see the result for * is very different to the exit poll numbers.

If somebody wants to have a look at the numbers here are the link for the exit poll numbers: 12.21am from scoop http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0411/S00142.htm scroll down a bit for WI results and CNN http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/WI/P/00/epolls.0.html

Hope someone reads this post it took me long enough to write.

I mean they won the overall election didn't they but knowing them isn't strange that they wouldn't also try to WI when they were so close.

votes favor a particular candidate?" That would be all the proof one would need.