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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:49 PM
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DU Rearchers!! Emergency!! John Fund NASS Keynote speech distortions!!
Right-winger John Fund just gave a keynote speech at NASS convention and spouted a whole bunch of distortions and misinformation... help....ASAP TODAY!!!

URGENT! We need research and doucmentation from MAINSTREAM sources.

-- Links to lists of disenfrachised voters 2000 or 2004 ANY state...

-- Examples of disenfranchised voters backed up by proof such as afidavits taken , etc.

--We need a link to the actual original Civil Rights Commission findings on vote suppression in Florida 2000. (And the settlement.)

-- Specific quote and context where John Kerry MAY have said there was a million stolen votes.

-- Information on felon with 300 plus fraudulent registrations (while working for ACORN) at the Minneapolis Airport.

-- Mickey mouse minnie mouse registrations, felons voting from jail, etc

-- ANYthing else along these lines.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 01:53 PM
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1. Go see this man.... (site) and this website..... simple.
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 01:58 PM by 4MoronicYears
www.GregPalast.com

www.Unprecedented.org <---- The flash vid is priceless... turn your sound on.


Link to filmclip, quicktime:
http://www.streamreel.com/archives/unprecedented_dsl.mov
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:08 PM
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2. We are on the ground at NASS... no time to search or watch video...
We need links and hard info, please... if you can search it for us...

Greg Palast ,etc. may be a good place but can youi help us find info there?
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:13 PM
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3. Please recommend for help!
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 02:19 PM by MelissaB
Edited to say: I'm searching through the "daily threads".

I'll try to help.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:25 PM
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4. Question:
When you say: "-- Examples of disenfranchised voters backed up by proof such as afidavits taken , etc." do you only want news items related to afidaivts or any news item with disenfranchised voters?
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:30 PM
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5. King County (WA State) rejected ballot owners posted on line
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 02:31 PM by MelissaB


List of rejected King County ballots



Ballots submitted by the following 1,555 King County voters weren't counted during the initial vote count and the machine recount because of apparent signature problems.

In some cases, voters failed to sign envelopes enclosing absentee or provisional ballots, those signatures didn't match their signatures on file or — in the case of 573 (formerly 561) voters — their signatures hadn't been entered into the election computer system.

This list includes the 573 ballots that were improperly rejected. For a specific list of those voters, click here.

Link for the list: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/news/local/politics/webrejectedballots14.html



Is this the kind of thing you need?
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:34 PM
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6. Yes! Mainstream press or documented sources are what we need nt
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:44 PM
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9. Please PM me... I have 28 pages of PDF files of investigation report
that went on in Snohomish County in WA. You can clearly see, fraud and pre-programing for ROSSI! Snohomish County is Democratic Country of over 20 years and this time it went to ROSSI.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:44 PM
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7. There is some info here, but I can't get the link to work. Can somebody
help find the info?

The systematic voter suppression in New Mexico of minorities was even more flagrant than Ohio and Florida.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x179169

The first link doesn't work, and it looks like it's the one we need.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:44 PM
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8. CCR findings...
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:46 PM
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10. Is something like this helpful?
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 02:48 PM by MelissaB
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:53 PM
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11. Hope it's not too late to help....Here's some info
New Florida vote scandal feared


By Greg Palast
Reporting for BBC's Newsnight

A secret document obtained from inside Bush campaign headquarters in Florida suggests a plan - possibly in violation of US law - to disrupt voting in the state's African-American voting districts, a BBC Newsnight investigation reveals.

Election supervisor Ion Sancho believes some voters are being intimidated
Two e-mails, prepared for the executive director of the Bush campaign in Florida and the campaign's national research director in Washington DC, contain a 15-page so-called "caging list".

It lists 1,886 names and addresses of voters in predominantly black and traditionally Democrat areas of Jacksonville, Florida.

An elections supervisor in Tallahassee, when shown the list, told Newsnight: "The only possible reason why they would keep such a thing is to challenge voters on election day."

Ion Sancho, a Democrat, noted that Florida law allows political party operatives inside polling stations to stop voters from obtaining a ballot.

Mass challenges

They may then only vote "provisionally" after signing an affidavit attesting to their legal voting status.

Mass challenges have never occurred in Florida. Indeed, says Mr Sancho, not one challenge has been made to a voter "in the 16 years I've been supervisor of elections."

"Quite frankly, this process can be used to slow down the voting process and cause chaos on election day; and discourage voters from voting."

Sancho calls it "intimidation." And it may be illegal.

Republican state campaign spokeswoman Mindy Tucker Fletcher
A Republican spokeswoman did not deny that voters would be challenged at polling stations
In Washington, well-known civil rights attorney, Ralph Neas, noted that US federal law prohibits targeting challenges to voters, even if there is a basis for the challenge, if race is a factor in targeting the voters.

The list of Jacksonville voters covers an area with a majority of black residents.

When asked by Newsnight for an explanation of the list, Republican spokespersons claim the list merely records returned mail from either fundraising solicitations or returned letters sent to newly registered voters to verify their addresses for purposes of mailing campaign literature.

Republican state campaign spokeswoman Mindy Tucker Fletcher stated the list was not put together "in order to create" a challenge list, but refused to say it would not be used in that manner.

Rather, she did acknowledge that the party's poll workers will be instructed to challenge voters, "Where it's stated in the law."

There was no explanation as to why such clerical matters would be sent to top officials of the Bush campaign in Florida and Washington.

Private detective

Democrat Congresswoman Corinne Brown says watches a private investigator film voters
In Jacksonville, to determine if Republicans were using the lists or other means of intimidating voters, we filmed a private detective filming every "early voter" - the majority of whom are black - from behind a vehicle with blacked-out windows.

The private detective claimed not to know who was paying for his all-day services.

On the scene, Democratic Congresswoman Corinne Brown said the surveillance operation was part of a campaign of intimidation tactics used by the Republican Party to intimidate and scare off African American voters, almost all of whom are registered Democrats.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:55 PM
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12. All kinds of links from Voters Unite
VotersUnite! presents the following compilation of problems reported in the media about the 2004 general election. Starting with early voting, we are seeing a wide array of problems, some of which appear in multiple states. This page allows you to see how widespread the problems are as they accumulate.


http://www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp?sort=date&selectstate=OH&selectproblemtype=ALL


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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 02:55 PM
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13. And yet more info for you...
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 02:58 PM by journalist3072
SPECIALREPORT
Voter Intimidation
and Suppression in
America Today
Ralph G. Neas, PFAWF President Julian Bond, NAACP Chairman
2000 M Street NW, Suite 400 4805 Mt. Hope Drive
Washington, DC 20036 Baltimore, MD 21215
202/467-4999 410/358-8900
www.pfaw.org www.naacp.org
The Long Shadow of Jim Crow:
Voter Intimidation and Suppression
in America Today
Overview
In a nation where children are taught in grade school that every
citizen has the right to
vote, it would be comforting to think that the last vestiges of voter
intimidation,
oppression and suppression were swept away by the passage and
subsequent
enforcement of the historic Voting Rights Act of 1965. It would be good
to know that
voters are no longer turned away from the polls based on their race,
never knowingly
misdirected, misinformed, deceived or threatened.
Unfortunately, it would be a grave mistake to believe it.
In every national American election since Reconstruction, every
election since the
Voting Rights Act passed in 1965, voters – particularly African
American voters and
other minorities – have faced calculated and determined efforts at
intimidation and
suppression. The bloody days of violence and retribution following the
Civil War and
Reconstruction are gone. The poll taxes, literacy tests and physical
violence of the Jim
Crow era have disappeared. Today, more subtle, cynical and creative
tactics have taken
their place.
Race-Based Targeting
Here are a few examples of recent incidents in which groups of voters
have been
singled out on the basis of race.
- Most recently, controversy has erupted over the use in the Orlando
area of armed,
plainclothes officers from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement
(FDLE) to
question elderly black voters in their homes. The incidents were part
of a state
investigation of voting irregularities in the city's March 2003 mayoral
election. Critics
have charged that the tactics used by the FDLE have intimidated black
voters, which
could suppress their turnout in this year’s elections. Six members of
Congress recently
called on Attorney General John Ashcroft to investigate potential civil
rights violations
in the matter.
- This year in Florida, the state ordered the implementation of a
“potential felon” purge
list to remove voters from the rolls, in a disturbing echo of the
infamous 2000 purge,
which removed thousands of eligible voters, primarily
African-Americans, from the
rolls. The state abandoned the plan after news media investigations
revealed that the

2004 list also included thousands of people who were eligible to vote,
and heavily
targeted African-Americans while virtually ignoring Hispanic voters.
- This summer, Michigan state Rep. John Pappageorge (R-Troy) was quoted
in the
Detroit Free Press as saying, “If we do not suppress the Detroit vote,
we're going to have
a tough time in this election.” African Americans comprise 83% of
Detroit’s population.
- In South Dakota’s June 2004 primary, Native American voters were
prevented from
voting after they were challenged to provide photo IDs, which they were
not required
to present under state or federal law.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:00 PM
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14. DemoD -- here are a few quick responses.
-- Links to lists of disenfrachised voters 2000 or 2004 ANY state...

The Conyers report includes numerous examples of people being removed from the pollbooks without cause, as does the Fitrakis et al book. (I imagine you have those two references with you.) I will email Bernie Windham (berniew1@earthlink.net) for more specific examples of disenfranchised voters in Florida and for the systematic dirty tricks of disenfranchising Black college students at predominantly Black colleges in Maryland, Alabama and other states - info he obtained from the Election Incident Reporting System (EIRS) dataset analysis. (The same thing happened in TN -- more below.) I will also email R.H. Phillips (richardhayesphillips@yahoo.com and minstrel@northnet.org), Bob Fitrakis (truth@freepress.org) and Cliff Arnebeck (arnebeck@aol.com) to ask them to send you specific examples from Ohio that may not be covered in the Conyers and Fitrakis et al books.


-- Examples of disenfranchised voters backed up by proof such as affidavits taken , etc.

Again, the several public hearings done in Ohio collected affidavits from a host of voters. I'm wondering if the J30 group might have some of that. I will email Rady Ananda with J30 (rady.ananda@sbcglobal.net) also to ask that question.

--We need a link to the actual original Civil Rights Commission findings on vote suppression in Florida 2000. (And the settlement.)

Can't help you here, but maybe some of the people I'm emailing this response to can.

-- Specific quote and context where John Kerry MAY have said there was a million stolen votes.

Can't help you here -- I've never heard this statement attributed to Kerry myself.

-- Information on felon with 300 plus fraudulent registrations (while working for ACORN) at the Minneapolis Airport.

-- Mickey mouse minnie mouse registrations, felons voting from jail, etc

The fact is that there are a few examples nationwide of folks trying to pass off fake voters on registrations that have always ended with the fraudulent registrations being caught BEFORE ANYONE got to vote. This makes this issue a complete red herring. We had something similar happen in Tennessee that the Repugs made a loud issue of, but because registrations are paper records that include other corroborating information (addresses, Social Security numbers), NO fraudulent votes were cast in TN as a result and our officials said so.

However, the reverse situation -- taking registration forms from legitimate voters and then discarding them because they were Democrats -- DID result in thousands (maybe 100s of thousands) of people being disenfranchised in at least six states based on the RNC-funded actions of Sproul & Associates alone. This criminal behavior is being prosecuted in Oregon and similar action may be pursued in other states. Here re two recent DU threads that discuss Sproul's illegal actions which garnered them $millions from the RNC.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=381827

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=138956

-- ANYthing else along these lines.

In Tennessee, college students at the predominantly Black TN State University showed up to vote after changing their registrations to vote in Nashville to find that their registrations were being challenged. Even though these students had lawfully changed their voter registrations from their hometowns to Nashville and completed the registration forms correctly, the fact that they listed their mailing addresses as TSU were enough of a clue to have their new registrations rejected. They were told at the polls to either drive back home (where their registrations may or may not have still been recognized) or to vote provisionally. However, to vote provisionally, the poll workers had to call into the county election commission to get a separate number assigned to each provisional ballot AND there were not enough functioning phone lines into the county election commission to get through in a timely manner. Most students, after trying unsuccessfully for an hour or more to get through to the county election commission, simply gave up. Bernie Windham has documented similar activity at predominantly Black colleges in Maryland, Alabama and other states. Similar problems were not reported at any predominantly White university in Nashville.

If you have other specific questions, please PM me with them (tracevu@bellsouth.net) and I'll try to help. I will also forward your request to Barbara Burt with Common Cause, though I hope she is there with you in Minneapolis now. (I wish I were there also.)

Again, if you have the Conyers, Phillips and Fitrakis et al reference materials with you, you can refute much of the nonsense you mentioned above with those references. Hope this helps.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:01 PM
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15. Republicans Fail in Bid to Move 63 Mostly Black Polling Place
Republicans Fail in Bid to Move 63 Mostly Black Polling Places

October 18, 2004
By: Chris Brennan

Philadelphia Inquirer

REPUBLICAN OPERATIVES working to re-elect President Bush submitted last-minute requests in Philadelphia on Friday to relocate 63 polling places.

Bush's Pennsylvania campaign staff filed the requests, using the names of two Republicans running for the U.S. Congress and seven Republican ward leaders.

Of the 63 requests for changes, 53 are in political divisions where the population of white voters is less than 10 percent.

"I think this is more evidence of Republicans working to disenfranchise low-income and minority voters," said Mark Nevins, a spokesman for U.S. Sen. John Kerry. "It's despicable."

Bob Lee, voter registration administrator for the City Commission, said the requests appear to be "discriminatory" and were filed too late to be eligible for a hearing on Wednesday.

"They're trying to suppress the vote," Lee said of Republicans.

Deborah Williams, a minister running against Democratic incumbent U.S. Rep. Bob Brady, said the Republican State Committee asked if it could use her name in the effort.

One of the polling places is in a district office of state Sen. Vince Fumo, a Democrat. Two are in local bars, 43 are allegedly inaccessible to the handicapped and 17 are in businesses or homes where voters could be intimidated, according to the requests.

"We're more concerned about people's comfort," said Williams, an African-American whose name is on 28 requests. "This is not about creating some stir in the election or denying anyone the right to vote."

Race played a role in at least five of the requests, according to Matt Robb, the Republican leader of the 48th ward in South Philadelphia. Robb said he allowed his name to be used because those polling places are in neighborhoods he doesn't wish to visit.

"It's predominantly, 100 percent black," said Robb, who is white. "I'm just not going in there to get a knife in my back."

The polling places are all in political divisions where Democrats hold an overwhelming advantage among registered voters.

Listervelt Ritter, the Republican leader for the 16th ward in North Philadelphia, said he participated in the effort on four requests because he is tired of polling places controlled by Democrats and the fraud that he claims results. Ritter, an African- American, denied any attempt to suppress minority votes.

"The black neighborhoods are the ones that do the funny stuff," Ritter said. "What are you supposed to do?"

Stewart Bolno, running against Democratic incumbent U.S. Rep. Chaka Fattah, said he got a phone call last week from a Republican in Lancaster whose name he could not remember, asking to use his name on the requests.

Bolno, whose name is on 14 of the requests, said he doesn't see a problem with improving access to polling places.

"Clearly I'm against any kind of discrimination or bigotry, that's for sure," Bolno said. "We are unfortunately in a situation where both parties are seeking an advantage in a political season."

More than 37,000 people are registered to vote in the 63 divisions as Democrats, Republicans, independents and others.

Lee, who has worked for the commission for 21 years, said he became suspicious of the requests because of the last-minute timing, the unusually high number and the locations.

Lee said local Republicans would know better than to try to submit so many polling place changes so late in the game.

Any registered voter can request a location change for one of the 1,681 polling place in the city.

Requests are sent to hearings before the City Commission after public notices are posted for five days at the polling place, the proposed new polling place and three other places in the division.

Lee said the City Commission on Wednesday will hold its last hearing on polling place changes before the Nov. 2 election.

Since the requests came in on Friday afternoon, he said, there is not time for the public notices.

The requests could potentially confuse voters. The city has already ordered postcards mailed to 1.1 million registered voters before Election Day, directing them to polling places.

By CHRIS BRENNAN brennac@phillynews.com
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:03 PM
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16. An Election Spoiled Rotten
An Election Spoiled Rotten
By Greg Palast
TomPaine.com

Monday 01 November 2004

It's not even Election Day yet, and the Kerry-Edwards campaign is already down by a almost a million votes. That's because, in important states like Ohio, Florida and New Mexico, voter names have been systematically removed from the rolls and absentee ballots have been overlooked—overwhelmingly in minority areas, like Rio Arriba County, New Mexico, where Hispanic voters have a 500 percent greater chance of their vote being "spoiled." Investigative journalist Greg Palast reports on the trashing of the election.

John Kerry is down by several thousand votes in New Mexico, though not one ballot has yet been counted. He's also losing big time in Colorado and Ohio; and he's way down in Florida, though the votes won't be totaled until Tuesday night.

Through a combination of sophisticated vote rustling—ethnic cleansing of voter rolls, absentee ballots gone AWOL, machines that "spoil" votes—John Kerry begins with a nationwide deficit that could easily exceed one million votes.

The Urge To Purge

Colorado Secretary of State Donetta Davidson just weeks ago removed several thousand voters from the state's voter rolls. She tagged felons as barred from voting. What makes this particularly noteworthy is that, unlike like Florida and a handful of other Deep South states, Colorado does not bar ex-cons from voting. Only those actually serving their sentence lose their rights.

There's no known, verified case of a Colorado convict voting illegally from the big house. Because previous purges have wiped away the rights of innocents, federal law now bars purges within 90 days of a presidential election to allow a voter to challenge their loss of civil rights.

To exempt her action from the federal rule, Secretary Davidson declared an "emergency." However, the only "emergency" in Colorado seems to be President Bush's running dead, even with John Kerry in the polls.

Why the sudden urge to purge? Davidson's chief of voting law enforcement is Drew Durham, who previously worked for the attorney general of Texas. This is what the Lone Star State's current attorney general says of Mr. Durham: He is, "unfit for public office... a man with a history of racism and ideological zealotry." Sounds just right for a purge that affects, in the majority, non-white voters.

From my own and government investigations of such purge lists, it is unlikely that this one contains many, if any, illegal voters.

But it does contain Democrats. The Dems may not like to shout about this, but studies indicate that 90-some percent of people who have served time for felonies will, after prison, vote Democratic. One suspects Colorado's Republican secretary of state knows that.

Ethnic Cleansing Of The Voter Rolls

We can't leave the topic of ethnically cleansing the voter rolls without a stop in Ohio, where a Republican secretary of state appears to be running to replace Katherine Harris.

In Cuyahoga County (Cleveland), some citizens have been caught Registering While Black. A statistical analysis of would-be voters in Southern states by the watchdog group Democracy South indicates that black voters are three times as likely as white voters to have their registration requests "returned" (i.e., subject to rejection).

And to give a boost to this whitening of the voter rolls, for the first time since the days of Jim Crow, the Republicans are planning mass challenges of voters on Election Day. The GOP's announced plan to block 35,000 voters in Ohio ran up against the wrath of federal judges; so, in Florida, what appear to be similar plans had been kept under wraps until the discovery of documents called "caging" lists. The voters on the “caging” lists, disclosed last week by BBC Television London, are, almost exclusively, residents of African-American neighborhoods.

Such racial profiling as part of a plan to block voters is, under the Voting Rights Act, illegal. Nevertheless, neither the Act nor federal judges have persuaded the party of Lincoln to join the Democratic Party in pledging not to distribute blacklists to block voters on Tuesday.

Absentee Ballots Go AWOL

It's 10pm: Do you know where your absentee ballot is? Voters wary about computer balloting are going postal: in some states, mail-in ballot requests are up 500 percent. The probability that all those votes—up to 15 million—will be counted is zip.

Those who mail in ballots are very trusting souls. Here's how your trust is used. In the August 31 primaries in Florida, Palm Beach Elections Supervisor Theresa LePore (a.k.a. Madame Butterfly Ballot) counted 37,839 absentee votes. But days before, her office told me only 29,000 ballots had been received. When this loaves-and-fishes miracle was disclosed, she was forced to recount, cutting the tally to 31,138.

Had she worked it the other way, disappearing a few thousand votes instead of adding additional ones, there would be almost no way to figure out the fix (or was it a mistake?). Mail-in voter registration forms are protected by federal law. Local government must acknowledge receiving your registration and must let you know if there's a problem (say, with signature or address) that invalidates your registration. But your mail-in vote is an unprotected crapshoot. How do you know if your ballot was received? Was it tossed behind a file cabinet—or tossed out because you did not include your middle initial? In many counties, you won't know.

And not every official is happy to have your vote. It is well-reported that Broward County, Fla., failed to send out nearly 60,000 absentee ballots. What has not been nationally reported is that Broward's elections supervisor is a Jeb Bush appointee who took the post only after the governor took the unprecedented step of removing the prior elected supervisor who happened be a Democrat.

A Million Votes In The Electoral Trash Can

"If the vote is stolen here, it will be stolen in Rio Arriba County," a New Mexico politician told me. That's a reasoned surmise: in 2000, one in 10 votes simply weren't counted—chucked out, erased, discarded. In the voting biz, the technical term for these vanishing votes is "spoilage." Citizens cast ballots, but the machines don't notice. In one Rio Arriba precinct in the last go-'round, not one single vote was cast for president—or, at least, none showed up on the machines.

Not everyone's vote spoils equally. Rio Arriba is 73 percent Hispanic. I asked nationally recognized vote statistician Dr. Philip Klinkner of Hamilton College to run a "regression" analysis of the Hispanic ballot spoilage in the Enchanted State. He calculated that a brown voter is 500 percent more likely to have their vote spoiled than a white voter. And It's worse for Native Americans. Vote spoilage is epidemic near Indian reservations.

Votes don't spoil because they're left out of the fridge. It comes down to the machines. Just as poor people get the crap schools and crap hospitals, they get the crap voting machines.

It's bad for Hispanics; but for African Americans, it's a ballot-box holocaust. An embarrassing little fact of American democracy is that, typically, two million votes are spoiled in national elections, registering no vote or invalidated. Based on studies by the U.S. Civil Rights Commission and the Harvard Law School Civil Rights project, about 54 percent of those ballots are cast by African Americans. One million black votes vanished—phffft!

There's a lot of politicians in both parties that like it that way; suppression of the minority is the way they get elected. Whoever is to blame, on Tuesday, the Kerry-Edwards ticket will take the hit. In Rio Arriba, Democrats have an eight-to-one registration edge over Republicans. Among African American voters...well, you can do the arithmetic yourself.

The total number of votes siphoned out of America's voting booths is so large, you won't find the issue reported in our self-glorifying news media. The one million missing black, brown and red votes spoiled, plus the hundreds of thousands flushed from voter registries, is our nation's dark secret: an apartheid democracy in which wealthy white votes almost always count, but minorities are often purged or challenged or simply not recorded. In effect, Kerry is down by a million votes before one lever is pulled, card punched or touch-screen touched.

Greg Palast, contributing editor to Harper's magazine, investigated the manipulation of the vote for BBC Television's Newsnight. The documentary, "Bush Family Fortunes," based on his New York Times bestseller, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy, has been released this month on DVD (www.gregpalast.com/bff-dvd.htm).
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:04 PM
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17. No 'smooth sailing' at this precinct
No 'smooth sailing' at this precinct

I am perplexed at the newspaper stories that claim that Tuesday's election went smoothly. I served as voting-rights attorney at Precinct 19J, the Moose Lodge in Tamarac. This large minority precinct suffered easily avoidable problems, and several voters were marginalized by not being able to use regular ballots -- or any at all -- when they were entitled.

• Less than 600 people voted in that precinct that day. Why? Several voters came in and said the precinct had been moved, but they had not been notified. Their voter-registration cards still bore the old precinct address (Shaker Village). How many people didn't vote because they did not know where their precinct was located? The supervisor of elections office's failure to notify them at least 14 days prior to an election is a violation of Fla. Statute 101.71(2).

• Precinct workers were poorly trained and were trying to read the manual as the polls opened. Several registered Broward voters who moved to the precinct swore out address affidavits, which entitled them to vote a regular ballot, but they were given provisional ballots. The precinct workers didn't know what to do under the circumstances and, when they attempted to call election headquarters, it took up to a half-hour to get through -- flashbacks to 2000. (In one case they simply refused to wait and marginalized the voter to a provisional ballot.)

When poll workers finally did get through, they received conflicting opinions on similar factual scenarios. Some voters were permitted to vote a regular ballot, others were given provisional ballots.

• Several voters were told they were not on the rolls, or their registrations were denied. These voters stated that they registered to vote in time, either with a group registering voters or with a governmental agency (such as a public library). Most did not appear on the rolls. A few appeared in election headquarters' records as rejections for purportedly failing to fill out the form properly.

One young man insisted that both he and the librarian where he registered had double-checked the form for accuracy, and he demanded to vote. He was sent to another precinct to cast a provisional ballot. In another case the precinct worker attempted to send one man away without voting at all. If I had not intervened, he would not have been able to cast a provisional ballot.

• A soldier home temporarily from Iraq came to check on whether the elections department had received his absentee ballot. He told me that soldiers in Iraq lied to their commanding officers about their party affiliation and how they would vote because if they did not proclaim to support the GOP, they would not receive ballots or their ballots wouldn't be mailed. His absentee ballot had been received, but he had to engage in deception to ensure that it would.

I also detected some of these trends at an early voting location in Oakland Park. The most consistent trend was voters who had registered to vote not turning up on the rolls. Tuesday was not the ''smooth sailing'' you reported, at least not where I was located.

JOANNE FANIZZA, Fort Lauderdale
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:06 PM
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18. Voter Suppression Challenged by Ohioans, Allies

Voter Suppression Challenged by Ohioans, Allies


by Ariella Cohen

After two days of public hearings in Columbus, voters’ rights activists are compiling information for legal action against election officials and working for electoral reform.


Columbus, OH, Nov 20, 2004 - Two separate voter advocacy coalitions are putting together federal lawsuits against election officials in Franklin County, Ohio, alleging unfair allocation of polling materials, staff and equipment that disenfranchised thousands of voters in the county’s low-income and African-American precincts.

Drawing from testimonies gathered at public hearings concluding Monday at the Columbus courthouse, a coalition of voter advocacy groups including People for the American Way, Common Cause Ohio, Citizens Alliance for a Fair Election (CASE Ohio) and The League of Pissed-Off Voters contend that state election practices suppressed voters in lower-income precincts and violated constitutional law guaranteeing all US citizens the right to vote.

Common Cause Ohio, a democracy advocacy organization, rests its federal complaint against the Franklin County Board of Elections on the 14th amendment guarantee to equal protection and the 1965 Voting Rights Act declaring federal protection against racially discriminatory electoral practices. Grounding their suit in the public testimonies as well as county records of Election Day procedures, Common Cause intends to challenge this election and push forward more astringent electoral legislation.

Current Ohio code is fraught with advisories and guidelines, but many decisions remain up to the discretion of local officials. For instance, in 1992, when e-voting replaced paper ballots in Franklin county, guidelines advising that polling locations provide one voting machine per 100 registered precinct resident were issued. Yet, no laws regulate or enforce this advisory and witnesses at the public hearings said that at some polling places 160 to 200 voters used each machine.


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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:10 PM
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19.  Several Factors Contributed to 'Lost' Voters in Ohio
Several Factors Contributed to 'Lost' Voters in Ohio

By Michael Powell and Peter Slevin

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Tanya Thivener's is a tale of two voting precincts
in Franklin County. In her city neighborhood, which is vastly
Democratic and majority black, the 38-year-old mortgage broker found a line
snaking out of the precinct door.

She stood in line for four hours -- one hour in the rain -- and
watched dozens of potential voters mutter in disgust and walk away without
casting a ballot. Afterward, Thivener hopped in her car and drove to her
mother's house, in the vastly Republican and majority white suburb of
Harrisburg. How long, she asked, did it take her to vote?

Fifteen minutes, her mother replied.

"It was . . . poor planning," Thivener said. "County officials knew
they had this huge increase in registrations, and yet there weren't
enough machines in the city. You really hope this wasn't intentional."

Electoral problems prevented many thousands of Ohioans from voting on
Nov. 2. In Columbus, bipartisan estimates say that 5,000 to 15,000
frustrated voters turned away without casting ballots. It is unlikely that
such "lost" voters would have changed the election result -- Ohio
tipped to President Bush by a 118,000-vote margin and cemented his electoral
college majority.

But similar problems occurred across the state and fueled protest
marches and demands for a recount. The foul-ups appeared particularly
acute in Democratic-leaning districts, according to interviews with voters,
poll workers, election observers and election board and party
officials, as well as an examination of precinct voting patterns in several
cities.

In Cleveland, poorly trained poll workers apparently gave faulty
instructions to voters that led to the disqualification of thousands of
provisional ballots and misdirected several hundred votes to third-party
candidates. In Youngstown, 25 electronic machines transferred an unknown
number of votes for Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) to the Bush column.

In Columbus, Cincinnati and Toledo, and on college campuses, election
officials allocated far too few voting machines to busy precincts, with
the result that voters stood on line as long as 10 hours -- many
leaving without voting. Some longtime voters discovered their registrations
had been purged.

"There isn't enough to prove fraud, but there have been very
significant problems in running elections in Ohio this year that demand
reform," said Edward B. Foley, who is director of the election law program at
the Ohio State University law school and a former Ohio state solicitor.
"We clearly ended up disenfranchising people, and I don't want to
minimize that."

Franklin County election officials -- evenly split between
Republicans and Democrats -- say they allocated machines based on past voting
patterns and their best estimate of where more were needed. But they
acknowledge having too few machines to cope with an additional 102,000
registered voters.

Ohio is not particularly unusual. After the 2000 election debacle,
which ended with a 36-day partisan standoff in Florida and an election
decided by the U.S. Supreme Court, Congress passed the Help America Vote
Act in 2002. The intent was to help states upgrade aging voting
machines and ensure that eligible voters are not turned away. To a point, it
has had the desired effect.

"Viewed dispassionately, the national elections ran much more
smoothly than in 2000," said Charles Stewart III, a professor at the
Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a specialist in voting behavior and
methodology. Because of improved technology "nationwide, we counted
perhaps 1 million votes that we would have lost four years ago."

But much work remains. Congress imposed only the minimal national
standards and included too few dollars. Tens of thousands of machines --
including 70 percent of Ohio's machines -- still use punch-card
ballots, which have a high error rate. A patchwork quilt of state rules
governs voter registration and provisional ballots. (Provisional ballots are
given to voters whose names do not appear on registration rolls --
studies show that minorities and poor voters cast a disproportionate number
of such ballots.) Ohio recorded 153,000 provisional ballots. But in
Georgia, one-third of the election districts did not record a single
provisional ballot in 2004.

In Florida, ground zero for 2000's election meltdown, professors and
graduate students from the University of California at Berkeley studied
this year's voting results, contrasting counties that had electronic
voting machines with those that used traditional voting methods. They
concluded, based on voting and population trends and other indicators,
that irregularities associated with machines in three traditionally
Democratic counties in southern Florida may have delivered at least 130,000
excess votes for Bush in a state the president won by about 381,000
votes. The study prompted heated critiques from some polling experts.

Stewart of MIT was skeptical, too. But he ran the numbers and came up
with the same result. "You can't break it; I've tried," Stewart said.
"There's something funky in the results from the electronic-machine
Democratic counties."

Berkeley sociologist Michael Hout, who directed the study, said the
problem in Florida probably lies with the technology. (Florida's
touch-screen machines lack paper records.) "I've always viewed this as a
software problem, not a corruption problem," he said. "We'd never tolerate
this level of errors with an ATM. The problem is that we continue to do
democracy on the cheap."
A Heated Run-Up
By October, the Bush and Kerry campaigns knew that this midwestern
state was a crucial battleground. Each side assembled armies of 3,000
lawyers and paralegals, and unaffiliated organizations poured in thousands
more volunteers. Both parties filed lawsuits challenging rules and
registrations.

Two decisions proved pivotal.

Republican Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, who was
co-chairman of the Bush campaign in Ohio, decided to strictly interpret a state
law governing provisional ballots. He ruled that voters must cast
provisional ballots not merely in the county but in the precise precinct
where they reside. For cities such as Cleveland and Cincinnati, where
officials long accepted provisional ballots cast in the wrong precinct, the
ruling promised to disqualify many voters. "It is a headache to take
those ballots, but the alternative is disenfranchisement," said Michael
Vu, director of the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections, which includes
Cleveland.

Earlier this year, state officials also decided to delay the purchase
of touch-screen machines, citing worries about the security of the
vote. That left many Ohio counties with too few machines. County boards are
split evenly between Republicans and Democrats, and control the type of
machines and their distribution. In Cuyahoga County, officials decided
to quickly rent hundreds of additional voting machines.

Other counties decided to muddle through. At Kenyon College, a surge
of late registrations promised a record vote -- but Knox County
officials allocated two machines, just as in past elections. In voter-rich
Franklin County, which encompasses the state capital of Columbus, election
officials decided to make do with 2,866 machines, even though their
analysis showed that the county needed 5,000 machines.

"Does it make any sense to purchase more machines just for one
election?" asked Michael R. Hackett, deputy director of the Board of
Elections. "I'll give you the answer: no."

On Election Day, more than 5.7 million Ohioans voted, 900,000 more
voters than in 2000.

In Toledo, Dayton, Columbus and Akron, and on the campuses at Ohio
State and Kenyon, long lines formed on Election Day, and hundreds of
voters stood in the rain for hours. In Columbus, Sarah Locke, 54, drove to
vote with her daughter and her parents at a church in the predominantly
black southeast. It was jammed. Old women leaned heavily on walkers,
and some people walked out, complaining that bosses would not excuse
their lateness.

"It was really demeaning," Locke said. "I never remembered it being
this bad."

Some regular voters filed affidavits stating that their registrations
had been expunged. "I'm 52, and I've voted in every single election,"
Kathy Janoski of Columbus said. "They kept telling me, 'You must be
mistaken about your precinct.' I told them this is where I've always voted.
I felt like I'd been scrubbed off the rolls."
Aftermath of Nov. 2
After the election, local political activists seeking a recount
analyzed how Franklin County officials distributed voting machines. They
found that 27 of the 30 wards with the most machines per registered voter
showed majorities for Bush. At the other end of the spectrum, six of
the seven wards with the fewest machines delivered large margins for
Kerry.

Voters in most Democratic wards experienced five-hour waits, and
turnout was lower than expected. "I don't know if it's by accident or
design, but I counted a dozen people walking away from the line in my
precinct in Columbus," said Robert Fitrakis, a professor at Columbus State
Community College and a lawyer involved in a legal challenge to
certifying the vote.

Franklin County officials say they allocated machines according to
instinct and science. But Hackett, the deputy director, acknowledged the
need to examine the issue more carefully. "When the dust settles,
we'll have to look more closely at this," he said.

In Knox County, some Kenyon College students waited 10 hours to
vote. "They had to skip classes and skip work," said Matthew Segal, a
19-year-old student.

In northeastern Ohio, in the fading industrial city of Youngstown,
Jeanne White, a veteran voter and manager at the Buckeye Review, an
African American newspaper, stepped into the booth, pushed the button for
Kerry -- and watched her vote jump to the Bush column. "I saw what
happened; I started screaming: 'They're cheating again and they're starting
early!' "

It was not her imagination. Twenty-five machines in Youngstown
experienced what election officials called "calibration problems." "It
happens every election," said Thomas McCabe, deputy director of elections for
Mahoning County, which includes Youngstown. "It's something we have
to live with, and we can fix it."

As expected, there were more provisional ballots, and officials
disqualified about 23 percent. In Hamilton County, which encompasses
Cincinnati and its Ohio suburbs, 1,110 provisional ballots got tossed out
because people voted in the wrong precinct. In about 40 percent of those
cases, voters found the right polling place -- which contained multiple
precincts -- but workers directed them to the wrong table.

In Cleveland, officials disqualified about one-third of the
provisional ballots. Vu, the election board chief, said that some poll workers
may have also mixed up their punch-card styluses -- that would account
for why a few overwhelmingly Democratic precincts recorded large numbers
of votes for conservative third-party candidates.

Still, state officials saw little to apologize for, particularly in
the case of provisional ballots. A recent count of provisional ballots
sliced 18,000 votes off Bush's margin in Ohio. "In Washington, D.C., a
voter who casts a ballot in the wrong precinct cannot have that ballot
counted," said Carlo LoParo, a spokesman for Blackwell. "Yet in Ohio, it
was 'voter suppression' and 'voter disenfranchisement.' "

In the days after the election, as voters swapped stories, anger and
talk of Republican conspiracies mounted. "A lot of folks who, having
put an enormous amount of energy into this campaign and having believed
in the righteousness of their cause, can't believe that we lost," said
Tim Burke, chairman of the Hamilton County election board.

Most senior state officials, Republican and Democratic alike, tend to
play down the anger. National Democrats -- including the chief counsel
for Kerry's campaign in Ohio -- say they expect the recount to confirm
Bush's victory.

But that official view contrasts sharply with the bubbling anger
heard among rank-and-file Democrats. While some promote conspiratorial
theories, most have a straightforward bottom line. "A lot of people left in
the four hours I waited," recalled Thivener, the mortgage broker from
Columbus. "A lot of them were young black men who were saying over and
over: 'We knew this would happen.'

"How," she asked, "is that good for democracy?"

Slevin reported from Cincinnati. Special correspondents Michelle
Garcia in New York and Kari Lydersen in Chicago contributed to this report.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:12 PM
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20. Any Means Necessary
Published on Monday, October 18, 2004 by the Guardian/UK

In the 60s, Police Dogs and Billy Clubs Kept Black Americans from the Polls. Today's Methods are More Refined
by Gary Younge


There is nothing George Bush likes more than extolling the virtues of democracy in faraway places. On October 8, during the second presidential debate, he promised: "Freedom is on the march. Tomorrow, Afghanistan will be voting for a president." Apparently some Afghans enjoyed their new freedoms so much, they voted for the US surrogate, Hamid Karzai, several times over, after the ink used to mark voters' thumbs wore off. By the middle of the day, all 15 of Karzai's challengers had withdrawn. Freedom was not even limping let alone marching.

"Today's election is not a legitimate election," said Abdul Satar Sirat, after he and the other disgruntled candidates had met in his house. Bush's national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, knew better. "This election is going to be judged legitimate," she said. "I'm just certain of it." When it comes to fixing elections, the Bush administration has a way of making the lame walk.

By Monday an exit poll funded by the US government and conducted by the International Republican Institute, which has links to the Republican party, revealed Karzai as a comfortable winner. After diplomatic arm-twisting by the US ambassador, the 15 challengers withdrew their withdrawals. It was a miracle. A few days later, in the final presidential debate, Bush would literally claim divine intervention. "In Afghanistan, I believe that the freedom there is a gift from the Almighty."

Back in the US, however, the Almighty seems far less generous. Bush's enthusiasm to export democracy is not matched by his desire to defend it at home. With just a fortnight to go to the presidential election, efforts to obstruct and deny the vote, particularly to black and Latino voters, are intensifying. Forty years after the civil rights act enshrined the franchise in the constitution for African-Americans, freedom is being crippled.

The group most likely to serve in Iraq and Afghanistan, where they are ostensibly extending democracy and freedom - African-Americans - is most likely to be denied those rights in the US. There is nothing new in this contradiction. In the cold war, when the US lectured the eastern bloc on the delights of democracy, black Americans couldn't vote.

The issue of disenfranchisement does not affect only minorities. The use of electronic voting in many states, using machines that leave no paper trail, has sent confidence that a fair election is likely, or even possible, into freefall. Once dismissed as the obsession of conspiracy theorists, fear of fraud is now mainstream. "Will your vote be counted?" asks the cover of Newsweek. "Election protests already started: Fraud intimidation alleged in key states," says a USA Today front page.

The former employee of a company hired by the Republican party to register voters in Nevada says he was told to throw Democrats' registration forms away. And last January, the Republican Ellyn Bogdanoff won a seat in Florida's senate by just 12 votes, out of almost 11,000 cast. According to state law there should have been an automatic recount; moreover, 137 votes emerged blank. But because the voting had been done by machine there was nothing to recount. Bogdanoff took the seat. The machines will be used on November 2.

Sometimes these efforts bear the official imprimatur of local officials. Given the debacle in Florida four years ago, you would think the governor (Bush's brother Jeb) would be anxious to ensure that anyone who wants to vote can. Instead he has introduced a rule that registration forms should be rejected if a citizenship check box is not complete - even when people have signed an oath on the same form declaring themselves to be US citizens. Meanwhile Ohio's Republican secretary of state, Kenneth Blackwell, attempted to enforce a rule by which only registration cards printed on heavy, 80lb paper stock would be accepted, claiming lighter cards might be shredded by postal equipment (meaning that voters who have to re-register on the heavier paper might not make it on time). And last summer the chief executive of Diebold, which makes many of the voting machines, said he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes" to Bush.

African-Americans, however, remain the principal target of the Republican campaign to block the vote. Unlike the 60s, when black Americans were barred from the polls by police dogs, water cannon and billy clubs, the means today are more refined. Occasionally the mask slips. In July, John Pappageorge, Michigan's Republican state legislator, told a Republican meeting: "If we do not suppress the Detroit vote, we're going to have a tough time in this election cycle." Detroit is more than 80% black. It does not take a genius to work out whose votes he was keen to suppress.

So far it has mainly been a mix of petty harassment and bureaucratic pedantry, devised to intimidate newly registered and poor voters, a huge proportion of whom are black and Latino. Take Florida. According to the Washington Post, African-Americans in Republican-run Duval county were the most likely to have their voter registration forms rejected, while rejections for Democrats outnumbered Republicans by three to one. In 2000, 42% of ballots rejected by the Duval county election board came from mainly black areas.

In Ohio, Mr Blackwell also told election boards that anyone who turned up at the wrong polling station would not be able to cast a provisional ballot (to be verified later). The Democrats successfully sued, saying that the ruling would disadvantage minority and poor voters, who tend to move more often.

It is not difficult to fathom what is driving these efforts, which are being replicated throughout the country. The best indication of how an American will vote is race. More than 80% of African-Americans voted Democrat in the last election. Incapable of persuading them to vote Republican, Republicans now seek to prevent them voting Democrat.

This task has become particularly urgent because voter registration recently ended in many states, revealing that voter rolls in black and Latino areas have swollen in far greater numbers than in Republican precincts. Between the last election and August this year, almost 200,000 additional black voters were registered in Florida.

So while these attempts are clearly racial in nature, they are essentially partisan in motivation. With apologies to Malcolm X, they are about winning by any means necessary. Republicans support democracy when democracy supports Republicans. But they are equally happy to do without it when it is inconvenient. That was always true abroad, from Venezuela to Nicaragua and Pakistan to Saudi Arabia. Now it is true at home, from Detroit to Duval County.

Freedom is on the retreat. And the man who assumed office four years ago thanks to thousands of disenfranchised black voters is again leading the charge.

© 2004 Guardian Newspapers, Ltd.
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CabalPowered Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:17 PM
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21. On the Kerry quote..
I ran some queries through LexisNexis..

Searched major newspapers, magazines and journals for one year with permutations of "stolen votes". Refined those searches for Kerry and found no such quote.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:22 PM
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22. Kerry alleges voters were 'suppressed'
Kerry alleges voters were 'suppressed'
Links poll issues to King's struggle

By Scott S. Greenberger, Globe Staff | January 18, 2005

In his first high-profile address since conceding the presidential election, Senator John F. Kerry used Boston's annual Martin Luther King Jr. memorial breakfast yesterday to decry what he called the suppression of thousands of would-be voters last November.

"Thousands of people were suppressed in their efforts to vote. Voting machines were distributed in uneven ways," the former Democratic nominee told an enthusiastic audience of 1,200 at the Boston Convention and Exhibition Center in South Boston.

"In Democratic districts, it took people four, five, 11 hours to vote, while Republicans through in 10 minutes. Same voting machines, same process, our America," Kerry said.

In an e-mail message he sent to his supporters on the day before Congress certified the election results earlier this month, Kerry cited "widespread reports of irregularities, questionable practices by some election officials, and instances of lawful voters being denied the right to vote" in the battleground state of Ohio.

But he also said his legal team had found no evidence that would alter the outcome. President Bush defeated Kerry in Ohio by 119,000 votes.

Kerry has stayed out of the spotlight since the election, vacationing in Idaho and taking a tour of Europe and the Middle East without reporters in tow. He left and returned from that trip unannounced. In his return to public speaking yesterday, Kerry exhibited a passion that many of his critics found him to be lacking on the campaign trail -- a change in tenor he and his aides promised in several brief post-election comments.

"My friends, this is not a time to pretend. We're here to celebrate the life of a man who, if he were here today, would make it clear to us what our agenda is. And nothing," Kerry said, his voice rising in anger, "would he make more clear on that agenda than, in a nation that is willing to spend several hundred million dollars in Iraq to bring them democracy we cannot tolerate that, here in America, too many people are denied that democracy."

The crowd, many of them part of the African-American community that claimed disenfranchisement in the 2000 and 2004 elections, gave Kerry a standing ovation.

Critics of the election process in Ohio say there were not enough voting machines in urban, Democrat-leaning precincts, leading to long lines that dissuaded many voters from casting ballots. In some cases, polls were held open after the announced closing time to allow everyone in line to vote, but some left without voting after standing in line for hours. Some blacks in particular have also charged that there were organized efforts to send voters to the wrong voting places, and troubling disparities in the way voting machines counted Democratic votes. Political analysts have said Bush won on the strength of turnout among white, Republican-leaning Christian conservatives in Ohio's more rural communities, such as those downstate near Cincinnati.

Ohio election officials could not be reached for comment yesterday, but in the past they have denied any improprieties. When a small band of Democratic lawmakers objected to the certification of the election results, House majority leader Tom DeLay, Republican of Texas, accused Democrats of a "crime against the dignity of American democracy," and said they were devoted to conspiracy theories.

Without offering details, Kerry aides said yesterday that the senator plans to file legislation to correct some of the election problems that occurred in 2000 and 2004. Aides also said that a political action committee he started after the election -- a committee that could lay the groundwork for a second presidential campaign in 2008 -- would also be dedicated to preventing disenfranchisement.

After the disputed vote in Florida in 2000, Congress approved the Help America Vote Act of 2002 and authorized $4 billion so that states could create central computerized voter lists and update voting systems by 2006. But many states have not yet made improvements, and two federal agencies are planning inquiries to look into problems that plagued both old and new systems last November.

In addition to discussing the November vote, Kerry offered a thinly veiled critique of the Bush administration's frequent mention of religious faith. Reading from King's "Letter From Birmingham Jail," Kerry noted that King criticized fellow clergymen who stood on the sidelines of the civil rights struggle mouthing "pious irrelevancies and sanctimonious trivialities."

"When you look around this country, it is clear that there is still an incredible divorce between those who profess faith and those, like so many of you, who actually carry it out on a day-to-day basis," Kerry said. "Faith has been pushed into the politics of our country in a way not to unite, but to divide, not to elucidate but to hide and to obscure, not to open up opportunity but even to shut the doors of opportunity."

After listening to Kerry's remarks, Governor Mitt Romney, a Republican, said that "there are many improvements to be made in our electoral process." Romney said no eligible voter should be denied the right to vote, but like many Republicans he is at least as concerned about allowing ineligible voters to cast ballots.

"Either voter fraud or voter suppression -- either or both is wrong," he said.

Before his speech, Kerry spoke to reporters about his recent overseas trip, criticizing the Bush administration for failing to seek extensive help from other countries in training Iraqi security forces. Kerry said President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt told him that Egypt could be training between 500 and 1,000 troops every month, far more than the 146 it is training now. He said European leaders are also eager to contribute more. "It's clear that they're prepared to do more, but the administration has not put the structure together for people to be able to do it," he said.

Kerry also said the administration has not done enough to repair the relationship between Iraq's Shi'ite and Sunni Muslims.

"All of the Arab world is deeply disturbed by the absence of sufficient political diplomacy," he said. "And now it's clear to me that the major event is not the election itself, but what happens immediately after the election."

Glen Johnson of the Globe staff contributed to this report.
© Copyright 2005 Globe Newspaper Company.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:27 PM
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23. I think Dzika posted a video of his speech, too.
I just haven't found it yet.
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savannahana Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:27 PM
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24. Steve Freeman (of U of PA) link
http://www.appliedresearch.us/sf/epdiscrep

...hoping this helps, even a little, at locating
what you need right now.

sorry, i am truly lousy at this; but still seaching
on the particulars you mention in OP

:thumbsup: :kick:

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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:29 PM
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25. Here's a USA Today article quoting Kerry re: votes lost by deception
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:31 PM
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26. Video of supression
A friend of mine is the filmmaker for the Ohio Voter Suppression footage and wants it distributed as much as possible. She's given me the higher version mov file to host on my site, so feel free to download it from me.

http://www.jeff04.com

Make sure you right-click on the file to download it. It's a QuickTime mov file, about 50 MB

If you would prefer, please e-mail the filmmaker at linda_byrket@yahoo.com and she will e-mail it to you. Or you could simply contact her and thank her.

Quicktime Movie:
http://www.jeff04.com/footage.mov


Thanks to Seemann For Congress here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x194161


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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:45 PM
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27. HEYYYYYYY!!!!!! Who is John Fund, What is NASS, where is the link
to his distorted speech? Try to Google "John Fund NASS Keynote speech", which I did, taken from your hysterical post...found nothing pertinent. Then googled NASS...stands for many things, including agriculture, immigration...etc. Sorry, if you people want help, you'll have to be a bit more explanatory.

Don't you think the Robert's election and the Rove/Plamegate case, and the Iraq War and PNAC is more important? How do I know that this just isn't more bait throwing to get everyone even more confused??? Explain yourself or don't waste my time and your breath...
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:54 PM
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30. National Assn. of Secretaries of State =NASS
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 03:55 PM by demodonkey

Speech was just given at luncheon this afternoon at their conference in St Paul MN.

I am here with a group of Election Reform representatives and we are trying to formulate a response.

Plame etc is important, but this is the election reform forum.
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:01 PM
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33. Thanks...and who is Fund...can we get a copy of the speech? I
downloaded so much post election on election fraud, but most of it was from this very site...
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:25 PM
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45. Get over yourself, won't you? You're in the 2004 ERD "home turf" ...
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 04:41 PM by Fly by night
... and we homeboys and girls know what NASS is. We have been following the preparations for our presence at the NASS conference for the past month. Where you been?

We also know who DemoDonkey and her merry band of election non-thieves are. (What up, Marybeth, Mark, Ellen and the rest!!!) And we wish them well in St. Paul as they try to introduce a bit of reality into that important meeting of officials who are responsible for overseeing elections in most of our states.

Besides, there is no more important issue in this country at this moment than honest elections. Nothing else means a hill of beans when the "consent of the governed" is thwarted. A recent article on how poorly Duh-bya is polling among Independents, only 15% of whom approve of his economic policies (sic, really sic), included a statement that the White House seemed remarkedly unconcerned about how these Americans feel about their performance.

Well, if you can count on KKKarl's "invisible grassroots get-out-the-vote effort" (whose minions exist only in cyberspace), why should you give a fuck how the merely flesh-and-bone American voters feel about your performance?

So you St. Paul troopers, what else can we do to help you from a distance? Remember, the internet is our "nu-cu-lur" weapon and we're all sitting here with our hands on the triggers. What else do you need -- most of us are here to help.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:20 PM
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50. Yes this is NOT the Plame Forum!
When you get Shrub impeached, and I hope you do ASAP, come back and let us know. Otherwise do something to help fix the election system or you'll be voting for Jeb in 08 whether you intend to or not!
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:52 PM
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54. Jeb or Chuck Hagel.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:49 PM
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28. Here's one:
WaPo article from 10/31/04:

Now they're registered, now they're not

Registered voters who have been somehow unregistered. Democrats who suddenly find they've been re-registered as Republicans. A flier announcing that Election Day has been extended through Wednesday.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/110104T.shtml

more to come...
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:53 PM
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29. Minnesota ACORN incident:
4. MINNESOTA: Ex ACORN Employee’s Car Contained Voter Registration Cards In Trunk. “When police at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport stopped a man for running a stop sign late last month, they found an unusual stash in his car trunk: More than 300 voter registration cards that had been filled out but never submitted to the Minnesota secretary of state. The motorist allegedly told police that he was an ex-employee of ACORN…” (Patrick Sweeney, “Stash Of Voter Cards Probed,” Saint Paul Pioneer Press, 10/8/04)

http://www.plastichallway.com/blog/2004/10/fraud-top-ten.html

I'll try to find a link to the actual article...
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:55 PM
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31. You gotta pay for the article but the abstract says this:
St. Paul Pioneer Press (MN) - December 7, 2004 - B3 Local

MAN PLEADS GUILTY IN VOTE CARD SCAM PROSECUTOR SAYS MOTIVE WAS MONEY
A man who was arrested in late September with hundreds of filled-out voter registration cards in the trunk of his car pleaded guilty Monday in Hennepin County District Court to two felonies. Joshua Reed, 19, of St. Louis Park admitted failing to promptly turn over the voter registration cards to the Secretary of State or to a county auditor, and admitted forging signatures on 18 other voter registration cards. Reed faces sentencing Jan. 20 before Hennepin County District...
>> Purchase complete article, of 497 words


http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_multi=SP|&p_product=SP&p_theme=realcities2&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&s_site=twincities&s_trackval=SP&p_text_search-0=ACORN%20AND%20voter%20AND%20registration&s_dispstring=ACORN%20voter%20registration%20AND%20date(all)&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&xcal_useweights=no
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 03:57 PM
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32. Thanks all, we are still formulating a response...
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 03:57 PM by demodonkey
All this material is helping!

:yourock:
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:01 PM
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34. OHIO Provisional ballot problems from Columbus Dispatch (affadavit)
Several new voting concerns surfaced yesterday as lawyers combed totals from the Nov. 2 presidential election.

An Akron man filed a complaint with the Summit County Board of Elections saying he "witnessed election judges telling potential voters that they could cast a provisional ballot at any table or precinct and if they did so, it would be counted."

snip...

"I tried, unsuccessfully, to point out the judges’ errors to the judges," he said in his affidavit. "I also observed that poll workers were not helpful to — in fact, some were overtly hostile to the idea of helping — voters whose names were not on the rolls in finding their correct polling place.

"Some lines were over an hour or two long. At other precincts, there was no line. I believe that there were potential voters who requested provisional ballots at the incorrect precinct because it was more convenient and because they were told that casting a provisional ballot at any precinct was acceptable," he said.



http://www.dispatch.com/election.php?story=dispatch/2004/11/25/20041125-D1-03.html
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:01 PM
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35. ACORN info

...snip

3. FLORIDA: Former ACORN Worker Sues Organization, Claims Group Illegally Copied, Sold, And Suppressed Registrations. “An activist group was sued in Miami-Dade circuit court this week by a former employee, who has accused top officials of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now of violating a slew of election laws. Mac Stuart, of Opa-locka, has accused the organization, known as ACORN, of illegally copying voter registration applications and selling them to labor union groups, allowing people to sign petitions who were not registered voters and suppressing Republican voter registration applications.” (Jeremy Milarsky “Ex-Worker Sues Activist Group,” Sun-Sentinel, 10/21/04)
4. MINNESOTA: Ex ACORN Employee’s Car Contained Voter Registration Cards In Trunk. “When police at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport stopped a man for running a stop sign late last month, they found an unusual stash in his car trunk: More than 300 voter registration cards that had been filled out but never submitted to the Minnesota secretary of state. The motorist allegedly told police that he was an ex-employee of ACORN…” (Patrick Sweeney, “Stash Of Voter Cards Probed,” Saint Paul Pioneer Press, 10/8/04)
5. MISSOURI: Project Vote/ACORN And ACT Submitting Faulty Registrations. “Sleuths at the St. Louis County Board of Election Commissioners are trashing hundreds of faulty voter registrations, most of them collected by voter drive groups like Pro-Vote and America Coming Together. … KMOV presented Welch with a list of names of voters who apparently registered twice, using variations of their names - registrations that had not yet been flagged.” (KMOV Website, http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/100604ccktKMOVVote.7e36f2b.html, Accessed 10/7/04)
6. NEW MEXICO: ACORN Registration Forms Found In New Mexico Apartment During Drug Bust. “A search of a northeast Albuquerque apartment as part of a drug investigation led to the discovery of about a dozen voter registration forms, police said. The forms were filled out and had dates from late last month, Albuquerque police said. Authorities had not determined the authenticity of the forms. The occupant of the apartment, a Cuban national, was arrested on drug charges. He told authorities he obtained the documents while working for the Association of Communities Organized for Reform Now or ACORN.” (“Albuquerque Police Find Voter Registration Forms At Albuquerque Apartment,” The Associated Press, 10/16/04)


More: http://www.californiarepublic.org/CROBlog/CROblog200410.html
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:12 PM
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39. ACORN Voter Registration Fraud Allegations Are Just the Tip of the Iceberg
This isn't specific about Minn., but I'm still working.


ACORN Voter Registration Fraud Allegations Are Just the Tip of the Iceberg, Says Employment Policies Institute



WASHINGTON, Oct. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- A Florida state attorney is investigating thousands of potentially fraudulent voter registrations associated with the leading organizer of Florida's Amendment 5 ballot initiative. But this is just the tip of an iceberg of illegalities, fraud and contradictions connected to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN). In recent days, ACORN has been at the epicenter of reports on thousands of potentially fraudulent voter registrations across the nation -- including many by ex-felons -- submitted by ACORN employees in the presidential swing states of Ohio, Colorado, Missouri Pennsylvania, New Mexico and Minnesota.

The Employment Policies Institute has updated and re-released its report, "The Real ACORN: Anti-Employee, Anti-Union, Big Business" with the latest details on ACORN's involvement in what appears to be widespread voter registration fraud. The report includes statements from former ACORN employees on the illegal nature of the organization's promotion of the ballot initiative to raise Florida's minimum wage to $6.15 per hour.

"This report reveals ACORN's pattern and practice of deception and fraud," said EPI research director Craig Garthwaite. "The latest allegations of widespread voter registration fraud should prove to be the last of ACORN's nine political lives."

Former ACORN Miami-Dade field director Mac Stuart has declared an intent to sue ACORN and has made charges of rampant voter fraud operations. Stuart was employed and specifically tasked by ACORN to generate 103,000 new voter registrations from Dade County. He reports that ACORN threw out Republican registrations while paying for Democratic ones. Stuart also charges that ACORN targeted ex-cons and that he personally set up registration tables outside the Miami police department and Dade County jail. He went on to state, "The voter registration project has been operating illegally since it started."
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:04 PM
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36. OH YEAH - Official house.gov affidavits/statements from VOTERS
“I was a volunteer all day on Nov. 2 and noticed a big discrepancy in the number of voting
machines. Where I vote, in an affluent neighborhood, a voting machine had been added (total of
five machines). In the lower-income neighborhoods, there were two-three machines and people
waiting over three hours to vote!” Julie Jacobson, affidavit, 11/13/04 (Columbus)
“The only conclusion I can draw from this is there was an intentional effort to usher Republican
voters through relatively short lines while creating excessively long lines in Democratic areas to
suppress their right to vote by ensuring some people would leave without voting, because they
were incapable of standing in lines for three or four hours or they had to get to work.” Robin
Smith, testimony, 11/15 hearing (Columbus)
‚ Plenty of voting machines at GOP-leaning

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/ohioquotes.pdf
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:07 PM
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37. I have a word file with about 100 articles in it
If you pm me with an address I'll send it to you.

They almost all seem to have relevance.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:08 PM
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38. KERRY QUOTE _ MILLION BLACK VOTERS:
Senator John Kerry made a fantastic statement while speaking to a predominantly black audience in Indianapolis last Tuesday. Admonishing the Bush administration for calling " pessimists for speaking truth to power," he stated: "Don't tell us disenfranchising a million African Americans and stealing their votes is the best we can do . This time, in 2004, not only will every vote count — we're going to make sure that every vote is counted."
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/kirsanow200407120824.asp



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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:12 PM
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40. Excellent summary of anomalies in Ohio
This was just recently posted, so I assume you have it, but just in case:

http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=34681
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:13 PM
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41. Link to US Commission on Civil Rights
It won't let me link to the report itself but copy this text, go to their site below and do a search for this text:

REPORT ON THE RACIAL IMPACT OF THE REJECTION OF BALLOTS CAST IN THE 2000 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA

http://www.usccr.gov/
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:17 PM
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42. Chicago Tribune: Dead Voters, Double Voters, Discounted Voters
Synopsis on bradblog - looking for Trib link. Will add if I find it

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001020.htm
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:19 PM
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43. GOT it - THis is goooood stuff and from the Chi Trib:
http://www.reopen911.org/dead%20republicans_files/752340001_files/752340001.html

Dead voters on rolls, other glitches found in 6 key states;
Geoff Dougherty, Tribune staff reporter Tribune staff reporter Sarah Frank contributed to this report from Washington. Chicago Tribune. Chicago, Ill.: Dec 4, 2004. pg. 13
Abstract (Document Summary)
Ohio's so-called spoilage rate, ballots cast without a discernable vote for president, was lower than Florida's in the 2000 election. But the number of discarded ballots--92,000--represents a significant number, given that 's margin of victory was about 119,000 .

Full Text (1249 words)
(Copyright 2004 by the Chicago Tribune)
Michel Pillet died in 2002, but his name lives on at the University of New Mexico. He created the school's graduate architecture program and directed it for years.

Pillet's name lives on in another way too. He's still listed as a registered voter in New Mexico, even though election officials are required to purge the names of deceased voters.

A Tribune analysis of voter records suggests that more than 5,000 dead people remained on the rolls on Election Day in New Mexico. The presidential election there was decided by 6,000 votes.

And New Mexico is not alone. The Tribune's review of voter data there and in five other key states--Florida, Iowa, Ohio, Michigan and Minnesota--found widespread flaws in the integrity of voter rolls.

Further, more than 90,000 voters in Ohio cast ballots without a valid presidential choice. Either they decided not to choose a candidate, the machine failed to register their choice, or they mistakenly voted for more than one candidate.


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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:21 PM
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44. Okay, my computer is about to overheat - gotta shut down for a bit
Hope some of the links helped!
And thanks for being on the front lines!!!!!

:hi:
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:37 PM
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46. Greg Palast & Jesse Jackson: JIM CROW RETURNS TO THE VOTING BOOTH

Greg Palast & Jesse Jackson: JIM CROW RETURNS TO THE VOTING BOOTH



JIM CROW RETURNS TO THE VOTING BOOTH
DOES AMERICA HAVE APARTHEID VOTE-COUNTING SYSTEM?
Seattle Post-Intelligencer


by Rev. Jesse Jackson and Greg Palast
Wednesday Jan 26, 2005


The inaugural confetti has been swept away and with it, the last quarrel over who really won the presidential election.

But there is still unfinished business that can't be swept away. After taking his oath, the president called for a "concerted effort to promote democracy." The president should begin with the United States.

More than 133,000 votes remain uncounted in Ohio, more than George W. Bush's supposed margin of victory. In New Mexico, the uncounted vote totals at least three times the president's plurality -- and so on in other states.

>>>snip

The ballots left uncounted, and that will never be counted, are so-called spoiled or rejected ballots -- votes cast by citizens, but never tallied. This is the dark little secret of U.S. democracy: Nationwide, in our presidential elections, about 2 million votes are cast and never counted, most spoiled because they cannot be read by the tallying machines.


More: http://gregpalast.com/printerfriendly.cfm?artid=411

and: http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0126-28.htm

and from the Baltimore Chronicle: http://baltimorechronicle.com/012605Jackson-Palast.shtml
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:38 PM
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47. Get this month's Harpers at a nearby newsstand: None Dare Call It Stolen
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 04:43 PM by Fly by night
I can't find a link to it on the 'net, but it gives MANY examples of e-voting problems (over 40+ column inches worth) and disenfranchisement in Ohio, including a section on the infamous "Texas Strike Force" calls to voters trying to deter them from voting. It would also give you guys a hot-off-the-presses mainstream media article (published two days ago) that you could distribute there to counter the Repukes' propaganda that this is a dead issue.

The Repukes (punks that they are) can only wish ....
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:01 PM
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51. yes, it's great!
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #47
55.  Aug. issue not on net yet, only July. Buy August issue at news stand.
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 10:55 PM by Amaryllis
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 04:59 PM
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48. I can't find anything else, either.
Going to rest my eyes. Hope some things here were helpful. :hi:
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 08:10 PM
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49. Democracy Spoiled (About Punch Card spoilage in minority precincts)
Edited on Sun Jul-24-05 08:11 PM by Bill Bored
<http://www.civilrightsproject.harvard.edu/research/electoral_reform/residual_ballot.php>

Also, look at this USCV study by Febble and Mittledorf about undervotes in NM correlated by minority precincts with DREs in 2004!!!

<http://uscountvotes.org/ucvAnalysis/NM/NMAnalysis_EL_JM.pdf>
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 09:02 PM
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52. Anyone have the link to the Chris Hitchens article? And Lampley and
Koehler would be good too. I don't have time to find the links right now.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-05 10:44 PM
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53. DemoD: Here's Hitchens/Washington Spectator links. Do you need more?
I have tried twice to send you about 15 links to other critical articles but both times they have disappeared before I could get it posted to you. Here's the Hitchens link, a link to one of two long articles in the Washington Spectator and seven other relevant links. If you want me to try to send more links, please let me know -- I will do them bright and early.

Washington Spectator Online --- Voting: It Still Doesn't Work The Way It Should

http://www.washingtonspectator.com/articles/20050415voting_1.cfm

The Black Commentator - Cover Story: No Holiday for Vote Thieves - Issue 119
http://www.blackcommentator.com/119/119_cover_vote_thieves_pf.html

Daily Kos :: Armando's Challenge -- Final Edition Summary of Ohio election theft evidence

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/12/20/215458/51

What Happened in Ohio (washingtonpost.com) William Raspberry column

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61930-2005Jan9.html

toledoblade.com Purging of rolls, confusion anger voters

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050109/NEWS09/501090334&SearchID=73195662517954

ConservativeEmpathy Why election fraud matters by a Republican

http://www.chuckherrin.com/ConservativeEmpathy.htm

t r u t h o u t - Arlene Ash | Why We Must Question Our Elections

http://www.truthout.org/docs_05/011805Y.shtml

Vanity Fair: Christopher Hitchens -- Ohio's Odd Numbers

http://www.vanityfair.com/commentary/content/articles/050214roco05

Robert C. Koehler | Common Wonders: Peeling Back the Mandate

http://www.commonwonders.com/archives/col285.htm


BTW: I do believe that the same numb-nuts who started The Election Center (Doug Lewis) had a role in organizing the NASS. Also, have any of the SOSs whose states have recently passed VVPB (Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Idaho, Montana, Arkansas, Hawaii, etc.) spoken up to refute some of the drivel being presented at this meeting?

Hope you guys are working hard on your handouts for tomorrow. Even handing out a two pager of links you received today would be useful. If I were to hand out one article, it would be Mark Crispin Miller's Harper's piece published in the last few days. To have such a thorough article from a mainstream publication that has been published nine months after the election should get the SOSs attention.

Keep working hard. If we never quit fighting, we cannot lose.
We are the ones we have been waiting for. Peace out.

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:32 AM
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56. BBC-TV Newsnight (Greg Palast): "Theft of the Presidency"
(concerning Florida 2000 election)

"Theft of the Presidency"
BBC-TV Newsnight
Thursday, February 15, 2001
by Greg Palast
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=29&row=2

<snip>

Our investigation suggest the answer lies in this shuttered building and in a very expensive contract between Governor Jeb's division of elections and a private company named DBT, which accidentally wiped off the voter rolls thousands of Democratic voters. 18th floor division of elections, we have come to ask Mr Clayton Roberts, the director, a few questions. Roberts agreed to talk, but became a bit uncomfortable when he learned that we had obtained the secret DBT contract, and asked him if he knew what DBT were up to.

CLAYTON ROBERTS: Florida Director of Elections No, I didn't ask DBT. They do what we contract them to do. We have a statute that says we have to have a private company to do this. We put it out for bid, we put it out for bid, and I think I'm done with this interview.

PALAST: Let me just show you the contract if I could Mr Roberts. It says here in the contract that the verification is supposed to be done by DBT. That you paid them $4 million. It could look to others don't you think that you paid $4 million to purchase this election for the Republican party. 95% wrong on the felon list. Mr. Roberts, could you answer the question regarding the contract... Instead, Mr Roberts called out State troopers. It's interesting here?

STATE TROOPER: Oh, man! Never a dull moment.

PALAST: I don't know why he had to call the police. We hadn't gotten to our difficult questions yet! The difficult questions are: Did Governor Jeb Bush, his Secretary of State Katherine Harris, and her Director of Elections, Clayton Roberts, know they had wrongly barred 22,000 black, Democrat voters before the elections? After the elections did they use their powers to prevent the count of 20,000 votes for the Democrats? The Democrats say the answers to both questions are yes.

<snip>
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:24 AM
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57. UPDATE from MN -- You guys are great!
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 09:33 AM by demodonkey
Sorry I wasn't able to respond last night... unfortunately the internet was down where are staying. It is up in the Conference hotel and I am able to get online via wireless (no good in a voting machine, but BIG help during a conference!) I am writing to you from a session being given by members of the EAC. Am trying to write and pay attention (lots to learn here!) so please bear with any mistakes in my typing.

We have met and talked with numerous Secretaries of State, staff members, reps from non-profits and other groups, and yes, even vendors. As I said it is a learning experience (what we are learning FROM these people) as well as a chance for us to present information. One thing that I am coming away with is that just about all the Secretaries of State really DO care very deeply about voting and everyone's right to vote.

The tone of the conference is very nonpartisan, so that was some speech yesterday. Will have to post more about it later. We ARE using your research... We appreciate the help looking stuff up. We know a lot of these resources but don't have time to look up quickly with spotty internet access so again THANK YOU!

:yourock:

On edit: Bernie, there has not been anything earthshaking about VVPB here... I think the general feeling is that a Voter-Verified Paper Record (Ballot) is the coming trend and all states will end up with it sooner or later. Most of the SOSs I spoke with seem to be OK with VVPB if required but they personally aren't pushing to require it (or in some cases aren't legally able to, due to their own state laws which need to be amended.)
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:41 AM
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58. Thanks, DemoD. DUers CAN type, listen and chew gum at the same time.
Glad to hear the links have been helpful. This thread will be an excellent resource for all of us in the future -- whole lot of meat here (and not very much blue-green algae).
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