The Crisis Papers: The GOP is Certain to Win in 2006 — Unless...

The GOP is Certain to Win in 2006 — Unless...

By Ernest Partridge,
The Crisis Papers
July 25, 2005

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...A GOP win in 2006 and 2008 seems simply inevitable: as "inevitable" as LBJ’s re-election, Nixon completing his second term, and the endurance of the Soviet Union and apartheid South Africa. By this I mean that all this would have come to pass but for some extraordinary and unforeseen developments. Nothing less will budge the GOP from the White House and the Congress. After all, their “private sector” supporters count and compile the votes with secret software – and do so with no official independent means of validation. These facts about voting in the United States are publicly known and undisputed. And yet, despite compelling and unrefuted evidence of voting fraud, no one, except some determined citizen groups and a small minority of members of Congress, appear to be bothered enough to take action.

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The GOP can prevent their defeat, no matter what the voters have to say about it.

As things now stand, a Democratic win in 2006 is as likely as a vote for the restoration of the Romanov dynasty in the Soviet “elections” of 1930. And for the same reason: the party in power (more precisely its supporters in private business) counts the votes.

Evidence is abundant and compelling that the presidential election of 2004 and key congressional races in 2002 were stolen, primarily through the use of paperless “touch-screen” voting machines and the software that collected and totaled (“compiled”) incoming election returns. Though numerous private individuals and public-interest groups have presented this evidence, it is only through their initiatives that the issue remains alive. Because I have expressed my suspicions repeatedly and at some length, I will not repeat them here

But let’s suppose, despite all that evidence, that the 2002 and 2004 elections were entirely fair and accurate. If so, this was due solely to the civic-minded decision of the Republicans who built the machines and wrote the software (“source codes”), to “play it straight.” They faced little prospect of exposure if they chose to “fix” the vote totals. The machines produce no independent record of the votes and, as noted, the software is secret. In addition, as numerous public demonstrations have proven, the machines can be readily “hacked” leaving no trace of the tampering...

For the rest of this must-read article, click:

http://www.crisispapers.org/essays-p/certainwin.htm

I thought it should be here, too...

I read this on the homepage too, and was moved to send an email to the author. I asked if there was ANYTHING that we can do to get the editor of the Cleveland Planes Dealer newspaper to release the "two articles" published regarding the Ohio election FRAUD!! I have a gut feeling that this is too important not to follow up on!!! :banghead: :kick:

The article rings loud and true. We need to be able to know that votes are being fairly and accurately counted! Or else it is to no avail..
Could this be on the activist list?? Any ideas to make this an "important " headlining topic. :think:

stories? I figured more Coin Gate.

plus I'm a little psycic :think: I also read something about another Ohio paper (lost the link) reporting on the "crooks" behind diebold, and laundering money via a "lottery site" to finance Repukes like the Sec of State in Ohio (Blackman?) I've been searching for the site all night, and can't find it. If I do, I'll post it!

I had it "bookmarked" from last night. It's BlackBoxVoting.org 7/17/2005 "Gallina"(Diebold) reported...........:bounce: It's a very interesting and informative read. I was on it along time last night!!!

IMHO

This is discouraging...hard to remain positive when you read this message. I still get fired up when I think about how this country rolled over the last election, allowing the supreme court to decide the victor...where was the massive outcry!! Bring on a Revolution.

Yes, Ms. Tubman was right.

"Without a struggle there can be no progress." Harriet Tubman <One of the most inspirational stories you will ever read.>

persistence and many others at DU, but
some of us get very pessimistic about anything changing the downward spiral here in the US

It is great to be here. I mean that truly!

refuse to even acknowledge that there is a problem with our election process. This should be a fucking priority -- without fair elections, our government is no longer a government but a dictatorship. We are just another banana republic, pretending to have fair elections.

The media ignores it, Congress and the Senate ignores it and that means for the most part the people of this country ignore it.

2006 is going to be interesting.

I was furious to see after the last election all the whining "hard core" democrats tuck their tails in between their tails and run. Please don't get me wrong, I knew nothing about DU, and I'm sure it was different here, in fact I'm sure it would have helped me much in that time. I had no outlet and all I heard was a bunch of crying. All I wanted to do was start a revolution! This issue needs to be addressed...:mad: I want my vote to COUNT!!!

Our elections have indeed been stolen and our Democracy lost. But for the courage of the DUers who post here and members of some 200 election activist organizations around the country, ALL would be lost.

Settle in, look around, then find an organization and join us in the fight.

Some encouraging facts:

About 65 million Americans voted with their feet to get rid of Bush in the last election. Those folks are still out there and still don't like what's happening to their country.

On December 2 there were about 58 election activist organizations. Now there are about 200.

On November 7th 2004, 19% of the population thought the election was stolen. As of mid July 40% think there was something wrong with the election results.

In 2004, by best estimates, 4.8 million votes were switched from Kerry to Bush and 1+ million voters were disenfranchised and prevented from voting through a variety of voter suppression tactics. That's close to 6 million votes denied Kerry. He won by a landslide.

First priority is to counter the mass media's Wall Of Silence around th facts of the stolen election. Spread the word. Inform yourself, then educate others.

For a list of 168 election activist web site, visit http://www.51capitalmarch.com

Best regards,
Kip

Can you post the link and/or source for that new percentage. I want to start quoting it widely. I'm PMing you to also post the source on another thread. Thanks.

Great post. Why are we a bunch of Casandra's crying in the wilderness while our party just sits on it's ass. Has Dean been kidnapped and replaced by a "replicant" who receives instructions from Rove pal Donna Brazile? Does DNC have some inherent desire to keep losing (The Chicago Black Sox)? Is is like that season of Dallas that was really just a dream?

How many times does this point have to be made before our "leaders" stand up and start screaming on the roof tops?

A comprehensive explanation of fraud--text and key links

with respect, autorank, why expect the so-called "leaders" to change their behavior all of a sudden? why expect that there is anything we can do to make that happen when our best efforts to date have been ignored or co-opted? even if we could awaken them to the harm they knowingly do us with their choices, we'd still be pushing double-plus-hard to leave the matter in somebody else's hands. it is up to us and we are better off changing what we do than continuing to try to get blood from a stone. as always, my specific suggestion is to pursue peaceful revolution through the Voter Confidence Resolution. Arcata, CA finally became the first to adopt it last week. Read the press release.

And if they will not, then we have a problem. I'm totally impressed with the work in California, particularly the voter confidence resolution. That's an excellent model. I simply want the DNC to act affirmatively and soon. We don't have time, as things stand now, to mobilize the whole country for fair elections in 2006. As a result, it's necessary to work top down as well as bottom up. Congratulations on the great work in Arcata.

I really appreciate your comments in support of the Voter Confidence Resolution, autorank, not just here but the many other times you have posted them. Still, what you have said in this thread is so indicative of a cognitive dissonance issue I've been trying to address on a larger scale. Please forgive me if it feels like I'm singling you out - I'm only trying to use what you've posted here as an example.

You say "if they will not, then we have a problem" at the very same time your brain knows with certainty that they will not (no IF) and that we already have a problem. You "want the DNC to act affirmatively and soon" at the same you know this is completely inconsistent with the nature and history of the DNC. Just as with the language of the Voter Confidence Resolution, recently reinforced in Paul Lehto's lengthy post, there is no basis for your hoping these two things will change. It is, as I mentioned before, like trying for blood from the proverbial stone. It is also like expecting a leopard to change its spots. It is also like the fable about the scorpion and the frog.

You don't know what I'm thinking but I'll tell you: IT'S ALL POLITICS.

The DNC has been controlled by Mandarins and the like for years. The DNC report on Ohio was in progress prior to Dean coming on board. It was about 1/3rd of what it should be. Appropriately, it recognized racism as a motivation for voter suppression. This is huge. Previously, DNC ignored the Florida 2000 theft which was done via racist tactics and, more damning, they ignored the Florida-NAACP court settlement where Florida stipulated to their actions, which essentially served as a confession to stealing the election. So I see the report as 1/3rd to 1/2 way there, which is progress.

The reason I know it's possible or even probable that DNC wil change is because the politics are changing, have changed, and will continue to move favorably in our direction. Look at * in your state, look at him nationally, he's a big rock dropped into a shallow pond.

The next step is for Dean to get more of the message from us, DFA and others on the risks to 2006 and to start talking. That's very possible, I'm sure, and as * drops further, probable. Voters want an excuse for being stuck with * and election fraud is both true and an excuse; it's irresistible. And when a national leader starts talking aobut the truth of election fraud, remember the line "They can't stand the truty" and that's when the Republicans implode.

I don't feel singled out and I'm happy to talk with you about this. We're both right, it's local, local, local and also national with a strong push from a voice or voices who tell the truth. We're close.

btw, I use the scorpion and the frog too. In this case, "it's my nature" applies to politicians whose nature it is to capitalize on political opportunity. If the current crew fails to do so. watch for a real leader to emerge. Politics abhors a vacuum, that's for sure.

A comprehensive explanation of fraud--text and key links

You are correct that I don't know what you are thinking and I do not mean to be presumptuous about that. Taking on face value only the things you've said in this thread, however, I see you recognizing the (Dem) party sitting on its ass, the DNC *appearing* to want to lose, and a major report that should have blown the lid off of 11/04 only going 1/3 to 1/2 the way.

I agree with all these observations. None of them surprise me. Do they surprise you? I'm going to guess no. So what I don't understand is if this is what we know to expect, why you make other statements that seem to expect more? Actually, it is not that I don't understand it, it is that you are so far rejecting my efforts to explain it.

With all due respect, my two-point explanation is that this first demonstrates the human nature condition of cognitive dissonance and also that your want for hope is enabling you to embrace a false alternative.

Translation: to make sense of contradictory information, you are lying to yourself.

I'm sorry to be so blunt. I think we all do this (human nature) so please don't take that personally. I think it is a reasonable thing to debate whether we have a reason (basis) for hope that the DNC/Dems will change. That is actually how I would like for us to agree to frame this exchange. My position is that I see no basis for this hope, despite what you have written. I also just can't see advocating for new hope in people who have repeatedly failed us when instead we can work at becoming empowered to do what isn't being done for us or on our behalf. We have way more to gain this way too.

Perhaps we had a basis for hope when the DNC report was being compiled. When it was presented as 1/3 to 1/2 of the real story, it became a false alternative and removed the basis for hope that the report would be the thing to turn the tide. I call it a false alternative because it was meant to placate, to show that an investigation had been done. The implication was clearly that we should now all get on with our lives because their findings should be the universal source of infinite peace of mind. Well of course it was not all that and we're still left to struggle for a genuine alternative. I think this can only mean peaceful revolution which requires the empowerment of the people, as mentioned above in this post, and formal, official civil disobedience on the part of local governments to protect citizens from the federal government, as I've written about extensively with regard to the Voter Confidence Resolution. The Arcata City Council is a basis for hope.

1) Most importantly, we are both strong advocates of voting rights and election reform.
2) You should stop making presumptions about my thinking or internal processes based on rhetorical analysis, i.e., "Translation: to make sense of contradictory information, you are lying to yourself."
3) I don't vote in Arcata.

There is no question that voting rights are being violated and have been violated for decades. That this is outrageous is a given. That nothing much has been done until post 2000 Florida is simply appalling.

I'm not lying to myself at all. And please don't tell me that I am. Once people said that the Democratic Party would never stand up for civil rights, it did. Once people said that the Democratic Party would never stand up for the human rights of the elderly, it did. Once people said that the Democratic Party will never stand up for true voting rights in the most comprehensive sense. We do not know the answer to that and hence I cannot be lying to myself about events that have not taken place. IT'S ALL POLITICS. The wind blows in different directions, the tide shifts and the policies of our party have changed in the past and can change in the future. At least we have a chairman with a brain. He was just talking about voter suppression yesterday in the south. About time. The next step is coming into reality. Is it probable that true voting rights will be on the table. I don't know. Is it possible enough to keep pushing, you bet. The elegance (in the scientific sense) of having a national voice on this issue is the same as the elegance of having Martin Luther King speak on civil rights. We don't even need a King, we just need a voice which starts the debate which WE WILL WIN BECAUSE WE HAVE THE FACTS AND THE CAUSE THAT APPEALS TO AMERICANS. How controversial is universal voting rights (in the broadest sense including counting, tabulating, etc.)

I do not vote in Arcata. I used to vote in California many years ago and used a paper ballot. There were never any questions raised and politics there was real hard ball at that time. I'm all for your resolution but I want a bottom up & top down effort.

I support what you're doing and you should, at least, stop telling me "I'm lying to myself." Wrong tactic and presumes omniscience on your part.

A comprehensive explanation of election fraud--text and key links

or try…

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0507/S00238.htm

We definitely agree far more than we disagree and I again thank you for the supportive words for my efforts. I am sorry that my words made it seem like I was being presumptive of your thinking. Or that I was being presumptive of your thinking. I'm not sure which. In the end you recognize that what I was saying was a tactic and so mostly I'm sorry that my words didn't lead us to find agreement over a narrow area of disagreement. I really was not comfortable with how it read when I posted it but wasn't able to smooth it out any better. The thing is that I see this tactic as necessary, not just by me but by lots of us in the reality-based community confronted by people who truly are lying to themselves. We have to help people break free of cognitive dissonance. I think this ruthless honesty is essential but clearly don't have the best way to implement it yet. Is this a fair area of inquiry with you? Thank you for being decent and not inflammatory in response to my challenging words. Peace.

I'm all for honesty. I've found the word "seems" is useful as a modifier. Overuse can make you sound like our occasional "visiting" academicians and researchers, you know the ones who "seem" less than "ruthlessly honest" and more interested in bashing our bro TIA than fighting election fraud.

Now that I understand where you're coming from (I love the 1984 reference in the link) the only item off limits is disparaging remarks my favorite team, "America's Team," the Raiders.

:hi:

I'm emailing it to my folks - I keep telling them about the fraud problem but I get so emotional it's hard to really lay it out for them. This is a very reasonable introdution to the topic, I think my dad will like it.

:kick:

"But let’s suppose, despite all that evidence, that the 2002 and 2004 elections were entirely fair and accurate. If so, this was due solely to the civic-minded decision of the Republicans who built the machines and wrote the software (“source codes”), to “play it straight.” They faced little prospect of exposure if they chose to “fix” the vote totals. "

We are supposed to assume they were not tempted to use a system THEY CREATED to cheat. YEAH RIGHT!


Does anybody have those links to the info about convicted felons working for Diebold?
I remember seeing it but I can't remember where.

"Check this out - No less than 5 of Diebold's developers are
convicted felons, including Senior Vice President Jeff Dean, and
topping the list are his twenty-three counts of felony Theft in the
First Degree. According to the findings of fact in case no. 89-1-
04034-1:"

http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/31689/index.php

Black Box Voting, Harris's book. She or perhaps Andy Stephenson at the time unearthed this info while investigating the GEMS folks in Vancouver British Columbia. She says that GES (Global Election Systems, the software place that helped make the software for Diebold) at the time of its acquisition by Diebold in Jan of 02 had 5 ex-felons working "in upper management positions." One of them, Jeffrey Dean, had served five years in the slammer in the 90s, for guess what? He embezzled money from the law firm he was working for over a 2 1/2 year period by "falsifying computer records." The judge called it a very sophisticated scam.

You can download Bev Harris's book at her web site or order a copy. I ordered about 10 copies and sent copies to my election commissioner here and to my state rep, gave one to the Democratic office here, sent one to a prof in poli-sci at the university here, etc.

None of it seemingly resulted in anything, but it's all fermenting. Eventually "the truth will out."

Keep the faith.

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...2 wrongs don't make a right. Do they?

The machines can be rigged by Dems too if they are permitted to continue operation without any independent auditing. As a Republican, or whatever you are, this should concern you, assuming you're serious about not wanting fraud now.

See this post about Andy Stephenson and Republican Senator John Ensign from NV, and then talk to your representatives and tell them to DO SOMETHING! Otherwise, you're vote may not be counted either.

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x385327>

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The LEGISLATURES need to do something about this.

Did you know that HAVA does NOT prevent state legislatures from writing procedures to ensure security around our elections? Did you? Did you know that you can work with your representatives to get this legislation written?

Please act now folks! We can't let them steal it again! Keep working at the state level! Make sure you get rid of all e-voting!

I don't want to hear people crying again on election night in 2006. Okay!!!

Dear one and all,

After I closely examined your forum rules (all 47 pages of them), I realized they could be summarized into one sentence: "No dissenting views allowed."

I've been barred from participating on this forum (and my posts deleted) since many of my views differ from the other participants. Congratulations on stifling any debate whatsoever....you can all just nod in unanimity on every topic heretofore, regardless how inane or obtuse your position might be....how peaceful, sweet, reaffirming and reassuring. Life must be great without any controversy. Best of luck to each of you....I enjoyed engaging some of you on various topics, but that is apparently forbidden in Dem Underground land. I'm confident that you all are extremely well-intended individuals with a different perspective than my own....personally, I think it's the differing views that make life interesting...not so for those who run this forum. Take care and farewell.....Stormy1

P.S. Below is the email I forwarded to the administrators....doubt they read through the whole thing since it challenges their orthodoxy, which can be a very scary thing for these folks.
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Dear Administrators,

Thank you very much for letting me participate in the Democratic Underground forum...I found it very enlightening. A few thoughts for you to consider, since you've revoked my participation rights on the forum:

I don't often participate in online forums, but generally do so in an effort to gain perspective and perhaps share a different slant on issues....oftentimes, both sides gain from the exchanges. Heated? Sometimes, but they are usually good-natured and as long as both sides understand that the other is well-intended, there are no personal attacks. As I looked at your forum rules, it's quite clear that you've established a totalitarian forum, which will do little or nothing to further your cause. You've basically built a self affirming forum where everyone can go and say the same things over and over...not exactly how one learns anything, other than reinforcing one's own dogma. Quite sad, especially in light of the fact that liberals are the ones that are supposed to be open to different ideas, perspectives and diversity...apparently I was wrong. Very, very wrong. Not only do you not want to hear differing perspectives (which could lead to better understanding of the world around you), you don't want anyone even speaking those differing ideas/perspectives. The fact that you are incapable of listening to a moderate Independent voter speaks volumes...you just painted yourselves as a bigoted group that has stereotyped an entire voting block as right wing, uneducated loons. Here was an opportunity for you to get the perspectives of a middle-aged, educated, professional, who believes in many of the same things you do, but still has the audacity to vote "R" much of the time...and "D" some of the time....depends on the candidate. Yep...I'm pro choice, pro some gun control, not a brain-dead redneck, I'm an independent thinker, and I'm not a bible thumper.....yet I voted for Bush/Cheney. The nerve of some people. You don't want to hear it, but there a boatload of us out there. Too bad you don't want to understand us as we are a swing group that can fool the pollsters...you never will win another election with your current attitude. All the best in your future endeavors (I shouldn't have to say this, but that was a sincere comment)...hopefully open-mindedness will return to the traditional liberal mindset someday. It's obviously on hiatus for now. Thanks again, it was fun....Steve

:kick: for the TRUTH

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