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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 08:21 PM
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Funding the Recount ---> Email Kit


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Comments welcome -

The second set of links is from this awesome compilation thread by nodehopper >
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=36681


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Dear Friends,

As you know, anomalies in electronic voting precincts across the nation last week have raised alarming questions about the integrity of our voting process. The only way we will know if there was vote tampering is to demand recounts in every state possible. While recounts might not overturn the result, they are absolutely necessary in order to preserve our democracy.

John Kerry has not responded to pleas that he demand recounts. Ralph Nader has. At the request of voting rights activists Nader has already asked for a recount in New Hampshire (NH's first because NH's deadline is the earliest). Citizens in Ohio are organizing to demand recounts in that state, as they are able to do so under Ohio law. The plan is to request recounts in every state. This is our only chance to audit the voting system.

All of this costs money in terms of filing fees and other costs. A new organization has been formed specifically to fund the recounts. You can donate online at:

http://www.helpamericarecount.org/

Or mail a check made out to Help America Recount to:

Help America Recount c/o
LAW OFFICES OF LOWELL FINLEY
1604 SOLANO AVENUE BERKELEY, CALIFORNIA 94707-2109

Last chance for democracy. Gotta audit. Please help if you can.


~S


p.s. I've attached some links in case you're interested in learning more.


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http://www.helpamericarecount.org/

WEDNESDAY NOV 10, Washington D.C. -- Consumer groups rallying citizens for recounts in Ohio, Florida; voters can fund audits of Ohio and court challenges in Florida by donating to HelpAmericaRecount.org, a 527 tax exempt organization set up exclusively for recount funding.

Getting out the vote is good, but getting a 123 percent turnout is too good to be true. This happened in Fairview Park, Ohio. In Broward County, Florida, voting machines can do the moon walk: They count back-wards, but only on certain ballot measures.

If you want to buy a recount in Ohio you don't need to live there...you do need to be a US citizen and you need to get out your check book. How much is Democracy worth to you...starting next week no one can stop us from auditing Ohio were gonna get em.

In New Hampshire, voting trends seemed to depend more on which voting machine was used than on what party voters were affiliated with. When asked to produce “zero reports” at poll opening, some Florida touch-screen machines reported votes were already in the system, apparent stuffing of the electronic ballot box. Gahanna, Ohio had thousands more votes show up than voters.

Accounting for provisional ballots has been murky, and anomalies have now surfaced in Cuyahoga County, Perry County, and Youngstown Ohio. Florida optical scan machines in 40 counties had statistically improbable results, which did not exist in Florida touch-screens. Technicians got inside access to a central tabulator in Collier County during the middle of the election, and modem security settings may have been disabled for Diebold machines.

As hundreds of anomalies pop up, citizens are thinking:

Who really won? Dont know. Gotta audit!

Click Here to Donate! - http://www.helpamericarecount.org/contribute.html

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no link for this note from John Kerry's brother - this is from email, but it has been verified and is legit > > >
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I am grateful to the many people who have contacted me to express their deep concern about questions of miscounting, fraud, vote suppression, and other problems on election day, especially in Florida and Ohio. Their concern reflects how much people care about the outcome of this election. I want to you to know we are not ignoring it. Election protection lawyers are still on the job in Ohio and Florida and in DC making sure all the votes are counted accurately. I have been conferring with lawyers involved and have made them aware of the information and concerns people have given me. Even if the facts don't provide a basis to change the outcome, the information will inform the continuing effort to protect the integrity of our elections.

If you have specific factual information about voting problems that could be helpful to the lawyers doing their job, please send it to vri@dnc.org rather than to me.

The election protection effort has been important to me personally, and I am proud of the 17,000 lawyers around the country who helped. It's obvious that we have a way to go still, but their efforts helped make a difference. Their work goes on.

Thank you,

Cam Kerry
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/

November 10, 2004 | 9:15 a.m. ET
A bunch of cats across the parking lot (Keith Olbermann)

NEW YORK - The election vote mess is like one of those inflatable clown dolls. You knock it down with your hardest punch, it goes supine, and then bounces back up, in the meantime having moved an inch or two laterally.

The punch, of course, is the explanation that the 29 more-votes-than-voters precincts in greater Cleveland appear to have been caused by the addition of Absentee Ballots. The total difference between registered voters and votes (93,000) might be explained by that process, but it does little for one's confidence in the whole result from Ohio.

The problem is, the rubber clown immediately bounces back with the report that officials in Youngstown managed to catch a slight glitch in their voting there: a total drawn from all the precincts that initially showed negative 25,000,000 million votes cast. It evokes a Monty Python sketch (“Mr. Kevin Phillips Bong - Sensible Party - 14,352. Mr. Harquin Fim Tim Lim Bim Bus Stop Fatang Fatang Ole Biscuit Barrel - Silly Party -- minus 25,000,0000).

No reason to worry about the integrity of the outcome in Ohio, is there?
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http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/110804A.shtml
Worse Than 2000: Tuesday's Electoral Disaster -By William Rivers Pitt

In short, we have old-style vote spoilage in minority communities. We have electronic voting machines losing votes and adding votes all across the country. We have electronic voting machines whose efficiency and safety have not been tested. We have electronic voting machines that offer no paper trail to ensure a fair outcome. We have central tabulators for these machines running on Windows software, compiling results that can be demonstrably tampered with. We have the makers of these machines publicly professing their preference for George W. Bush. We have voter trends that stray from the expected results. We have these machines counting millions of votes all across the country.

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More information about the problems with electronic voting and the necessity of requiring a Voter Verified Paper Ballot can be found at:

www.blackboxvoting.org
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http://www. wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65623,00.html?tw=wn_tophead_3

House Democrats seek election inquiry... The congressmen, Democratic members of the House of Representatives from Florida, New York and Michigan, cited a number of incidents that came to light in the days after the election. One was a glitch in Ohio that caused a memory card reader made by Danaher Controls to give George W. Bush 3,893 more votes than he should have received. Another was a problem with memory cards in North Carolina that caused machines made by UniLect to lose 4,500 votes cast on e-voting machines...
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http://www. house.gov/apps/list/press/ny08_nadler/GAOJud110504.html

Contact: John Doty 202-225-5635

Senior Judiciary Committee Democrats seek
GAO investigation of voting irregularities

November 5, 2004

The Honorable David M. Walker
Comptroller General of the United States
U.S. General Accountability Office
441 G Street, NW
Washington, DC 20548

Dear Mr. Walker:

We write with an urgent request that the Government Accountability Office immediately undertake an investigation of the efficacy of voting machines and new technologies used in the 2004 election, how election officials responded to difficulties they encountered and what we can do in the future to improve our election systems and administration.

In particular, we are extremely troubled by the following reports, which we would also request that you review and evaluate for us:

In Columbus, Ohio, an electronic voting system gave President Bush nearly 4,000 extra votes. "Machine Error Gives Bush Extra Ohio Votes," Associated Press, November 5.

An electronic tally of a South Florida gambling ballot initiative failed to record thousands of votes. "South Florida OKs Slot Machines Proposal," Id.

In one North Carolina county, more than 4,500 votes were lost because officials mistakenly believed a computer that stored ballots could hold more data that it did. "Machine Error Gives Bush Extra Ohio Votes," Id.

In San Francisco, a glitch occurred with voting machines software that resulted in some votes being left uncounted. Id.

In Florida, there was a substantial drop off in Democratic votes in proportion to voter registration in counties utilizing optical scan machines that was apparently not present in counties using other mechanisms.
http://ustogether.org/election04/florida_vote_patt.htm

The House Judiciary Committee Democratic staff has received numerous reports from Youngstown, Ohio that voters who attempted to cast a vote for John Kerry on electronic voting machines saw that their votes were instead recorded as votes for George W. Bush. In South Florida, Congressman Wexler's staff received numerous reports from voters in Palm Beach, Broward and Dade Counties that they attempted to select John Kerry but George Bush appeared on the screen. CNN has reported that a dozen voters in six states, particularly Democrats in Florida, reported similar problems. This was among over one thousand such problems reported. "Touchscreen Voting Problems Reported," Associated Press, November 5.

Excessively long lines were a frequent problem throughout the nation in Democratic precincts, particularly in Florida and Ohio. In one Ohio voting precinct serving students from Kenyon College, some voters were required to wait more than eight hours to vote. "All Eyes on Ohio," Dan Lothian, CNN, November 3,
http://www. cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/blog/11/02/election.blog/index.html

We are literally receiving additional reports every minute and will transmit additional information as it comes available. The essence of democracy is the confidence of the electorate in the accuracy of voting methods and the fairness of voting procedures. In 2000, that confidence suffered terribly, and we fear that such a blow to our democracy may have occurred in 2004.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this inquiry.

Sincerely,

Robert Wexler

John Conyers, Jr.
Ranking Member
House Judiciary Committee

Jerrold Nadler
Ranking Member Member of Congress
Subcommittee on the Constitution

cc: Hon. F. James Sensenbrenner
Chairman
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http:// votenader.org/media_press/index.php?cid=403

PRESS ADVISORY
Ralph Nader Holds Press Conference in Washington, DC 1:00 PM, November 10, 2004
Was Every Vote Counted Accurately?
Nader/Camejo Goes Forward with Hand Recount in New Hampshire

Washington, DC: Independent Presidential Candidate Ralph Nader will be holding a press conference at 1:00 in at 1616 P Street, NW, 7th Floor. The press conference will focus on widespread reports of voting problems that raise questions about vote counting. The United States needs to face up to serious shortcomings in its electoral process so that we can have trust in the results of the vote.

Nader/Camejo has requested a hand recount of the vote in New Hampshire because of reports of anomalies favoring President Bush in towns that used the Diebold AccuVote optical scan machines. A hand recount will either rule out the possibility of machine error or show a discrepancy in the Diebold machine and the actual vote—either way voters need to know. To review the request for a hand recount in New Hampshire visit www.VoteNader.org. Similar inexplicable results have been found in other states, including Ohio. Nader has called on John Kerry to demand that every vote be counted accurately. His campaign has remained strangely silent on the matter.

This election has highlighted the need for electoral reform including federal standards for federal offices and non-partisan administration of the elections from ballot access, through debate participation and to how the vote is cast and counted.

Where: 1616 P Street, NW
Washington, DC 20036
When: 1:00 PM, November 10, 2004

For more on this issue visit www.VoteNader.org

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My friend, because I know you are interested, I have sent you the long version. If you are forwarding this you may want to cut it off here - it's very long!

Below are more detailed links, with stats and graphs.

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DOCUMENTATION
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METALINKS
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Websites that are functioning as aggregates of evidence of election tampering and voter fraud with links

This website breaks down the issue (and the supporting links) by categories: Official Investigations, State-by-State, press articles and links to other websites
http://shadowbox.i8.com/stolen.htm

Blackboxvoting blogspot, keeping track of the issues (very user-friendly)
http://blackboxvoter.blogspot.com /

Another aggregate:
http://www.bopnews.com /

And another one, very up-to-date
http://radtimes.blogspot.com /

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/2004votefraud.html
Nota Bene: On this website, the following graph is of particular interest:
http://www. whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/exit_poll.gif

Fraud Report Aggregate from scoop
(with some useful graphs and by-precinct results)
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00124.htm#5

An INVALUABLE resource of detailed voter fraud links, both state-by-state and by national level (this is in discussion forum format, but it’s on the of best clusters of information available (progressively updated and evaluated in the Replies below the actual message). Everything comes with links, and there are hundreds of them in one place organized in an accessible manner:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=201&topic_id=1984#
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POLLS, NUMBERS AND STATISTICS
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A statistical analysis of exit polling conducted for RAW STORY by a former MIT mathematics professor (former Associate Professor of Mathematics David Anick) has found the odds of Bush making an average gain of 4.15 percent among all 16 states included in the media's 4 p.m. exit polling is 1 in 50,000, or .002 percent.
http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=405

Data from New Hampshire used to motivate Nader’s recall petition
http://www.invisibleida.com /

This site has great graphics that show irregularities, as well as a bios on the major computer companies that point to conflict of interests
http://ideamouth.com/voterfraud.htm

A breakthrough and VERY thorough EXIT POLL ANALYSIS FOR 47 STATES by John Simon
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x36314

Sheldon Drobny (of Air America) on Zogby re: the issue of polls
http://www.zogby.com/Soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=10385
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REPORTS AND COMPLAINTS OF VOTER IRREGULARIES AND FRAUD, GENERAL
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Investigation into Trashed (Democratic) Voter Registrations
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2421595&nav=168XRvNe


Sizable mistakes have been found before in Diebold-run elections. More notably, the machines are easily hacked in such a way as to change the vote totals in not-readily-detectable ways. There is a "second set of books" built in to Diebold machines, which can be accessed remotely if necessary.
http://www.ejfi.org/Voting/Voting-30.htm


At this metalink you will find an aggregate of excerpts from arguments detailing previous problems with these machines (the original links go up and down because of the high traffic to blackboxvoting.org)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/4/224812/643
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REPORTS AND COMPLAINTS OF VOTER IRREGULARIES AND FRAUD, STATE-BY-STATE
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FLORIDA

Evidence mounts that vote was hacked... Jeff Fisher, the Democratic candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives from Florida's 16th District says he has evidence not only that the Florida election was hacked, but of who hacked it and how.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm

This glitch was caught in Florida...but how many weren't? Broward County corrected a computer glitch Thursday that had miscounted thousands of absentee votes...
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/10103931.htm

FL: Sequoia Voting admits possible evote error
http://www.whtm.com/news/stories/1104/184856.html

Related story: Sequoia gives away evoting machines to swing state
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/04/11/con04490.html

Surprising Pattern of Florida's Election Results
Look at the Percent Change columns.
Notice how the percents vary much more widely in the Op-Scan counties versus the Touchscreen counties. With graphs, charts and explanation
http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm

An Examination of the Florida Elections
New: Florida is reporting more votes in the presidential election than it is reporting citizens that turned out to vote. Adding all the presidential race votes reported by the Florida Department of State here yields a total of 7,588,422 votes. The Florida Department of State reports here that voter turnout totalled only 7,350,900. That's a difference of 237,522. 3.1% of Florida's presidential votes were in excess of the number of voters in the election. 380,952 votes separate the President and John Kerry in Florida... (WITH tables and graphs, a VERY thorough statistical study)
http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~adamsb6/elections /

Palm Beach County Logs 88,000 More Votes Than Voters...According to the official election results posted on the Palm Beach County election website, 542,835 ballots were cast for a presidential candidate while only 454,427 voters turned out for the election (including absentee). This leaves a discrepancy of 88,408 votes cast for the presidential candidates.
http://www.washingtondispatch.com/spectrum/archives/000715.html
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NEW MEXICO

New Mexico State Police are investigating allegations of voter fraud... roughly 25 percent of the provisional ballots in Bernalillo County have been rejected as invalid.
http://www.kobtv.com/index.cfm?viewer=storyviewer&id=14841&cat=HOME

precincts in New Mexico gave provisional votes that may never be counted to as many as 10% of all their voters.
http://www. ansiblegroup.org/furtherleft/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=51

Voter fraud uncovered in New Mexico...
Washington, DC, Nov. 9 (UPI) -- Observers watching the counting of New Mexico's 2004 provisional and absentee ballots have uncovered evidence of voter fraud, Opinion Journal said Tuesday.
http://www.washtimes.com/upi-breaking/20041109-010659-3448r.htm
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OHIO

Notes from Election Protection Call-taker in Ohio. Of special concern is the number of calls she got from people who tried to press "Kerry" But got "Bush."
http://www. dailykos.com/comments/2004/11/4/224812/643/2...;showrate=1#246

Alone in Ohio, officials cited homeland security... Citing concerns about potential terrorism, Warren County officials locked down the county administration building on election night and blocked anyone from observing the vote count as the nation awaited Ohio's returns...
http://www. enquirer.com/editions/2004/11/05/loc_warrenvote05.html

Something mysterious happened in Cuyahoga Country, Ohio: 90,000+ more votes were counted than there were voters. The numbers have now been revised:
http://pages.ivillage.com/americans4america/id20.html

But an argument has been made that there just aren't enough absentee ballots in Cuyahoga County to account for the differences in numbers in the results.

In Excel format:
http://www.codehappy.net/cuyahoga.xls

In XML format:
http://www.codehappy.net/cuyahoga.xml

Woodmere Vil. had 558 registered voters with 8,854 ballots cast, which is 1586% voter turnout. This is not an isolated case:

From data compiled from here
http://boe. cuyahogacounty.us/BOE/results/currentresults1.htm

a tally was made:
http://www. pacificviews.org/weblog/archives/000688.html

Bay Village: 13,710 registered voters; 18,663 ballots cast
Beachwood: 9,943 registered voters; 13,939 ballots cast
Bedford: 9,942 registered voters; 14,465 ballots cast
Bedford Heights: 8,142 registered voters; 13,512 ballots cast
Brooklyn: 8,016 registered voters; 12,303 ballots cast
Brooklyn Heights: 1,144 registered voters; 1,869 ballots cast
Chagrin Falls (VIL): 3,557 registered voters; 4,860 ballots cast
Cuyahoga Heights: 570 registered voters; 1,382 ballots cast
Fairview Park: 13,342 registered voters; 18,472 ballots cast
Highland Hills: 760 registered voters; 8,822 ballots cast
Independence: 5,735 registered voters; 6,226 ballots cast
Mayfield (VIL): 2,764 registered voters; 3,145 ballots cast
Middleburg Heights: 12,173 registered voters; 14,854 ballots cast
North Olmsted: 25,794 registered voters; 25,887 ballots cast
Oakwood (VIL): 2,746 registered voters; 7,099 ballots cast
Olmsted Falls: 6,538 registered voters; 7,328 ballots cast
Pepper Pike: 5,131 registered voters; 6,479 ballots cast
Rocky River: 16,600 registered voters; 20,070 ballots cast
Solon (Ward 6): 2,292 registered voters; 4,300 ballots cast
South Euclid: 16,902 registered voters; 16,917 ballots cast
Strongsville (Ward 3): 7,806 registered voters; 12,108 ballots cast
University Heights: 10,072 registered voters; 11,982 ballots cast
Warrensville Heights: 10,562 registered voters; 15,039 ballots cast
Woodmere (VIL): 558 registered voters; 8,854 ballots cast

An error with an electronic voting system gave President Bush 3,893 extra votes in suburban Columbus, elections officials said. Franklin County's unofficial results had Bush receiving 4,258 votes to Democrat John Kerry’s 260 votes in a precinct in Gahanna...
http://story. news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041105/ap_on_el_pr/voting_problems


CASE--Citizens' Alliance for Secure Elections
http://www.caseohio.org/CaseOhio /

is investigating various other voting irregularities in Ohio, among them:

* In Auglaize County, a letter dated October 21 under the signature of Ken Nuss, the county's former deputy director, alleges that Joe McGinnis, a former employee of Election Systems & Software (ES&S), violated election protocol with his unauthorized use of the county's central tabulating computer that creates ballots and compiles election results. Nuss, who resigned on October 21, alleges that McGinnis was improperly granted access to the computer the weekend of October 16.

* In Miami County, with 100% of the precincts reporting at 9am EST Wednesday, Nov. 3, Bush had 20,807 votes (65.80%) and Kerry had 10,724 (33.92%). Miami reported 31,620 voters. Inexplicably, nearly 19,000 new ballots were added after all precincts reported, boosting Bush’s vote to 33,039 (65.77%) to Kerry's 17,039 (33.92%). CASE is investigating why the percentage of the vote stayed exactly the same to three one-hundredths of a percentage point after nearly 19,000 new ballots were added. CASE members speculate that it’s either a long-shot coincidence with the last three digits remaining the same, or that someone had pre-set a database and programmed a voting machine to cough up a pre-set percentage of votes. Miami County uses an easily hackable optical scanner with the central counter provided by the Republican-linked vendor ES&S.

* In Warren County, administrators and election officials locked down the county administrative building and prohibited all independent election observers from watching the vote count. County officials cited "homeland security," according to the Cincinnati Enquirer. WCPO-TV Channel 9 News Director Bob Morford told the Enquirer that he had "never seen anything like it." Morford asserted that throwing the media and independent observers out of the centralized counting area under the guise of "homeland security" was a "red herring." He said, "That’s something to put up when you don’t know what else to put up to keep us out." In Warren County, Bush picked up an additional 12,000 votes over his 2000 election total.

* In Franklin County, where Franklin County Board of Elections Director Matt Damschroder is also the former Executive Director of the county’s Republican Party, the county Board of Elections building looked like a bunker. Scores of city buses blocked parking spaces on the street outside, numerous concrete barricades surrounded the parking lot, and a metal detector was stationed at the only entrance. A phalanx of armed deputy sheriffs swarmed the only site where provisional voters could cast a guaranteed ballot. The Columbus Dispatch confirmed an Election Day Free Press story that far fewer voting machines were present in predominantly black Democratic inner-city voting wards than in the recent primary election and the 2000 presidential election, with their lighter turnouts. The reduced number of machines caused voters to wait up to seven hours and wait an average of approximately three hours. One Republican Central Committee member told the Free Press that Damschroder held back as many as 2000 machines and dispersed many of the other machines to affluent suburbs in Franklin County.

* In rural Drake County, Kerry received 78 less votes than Al Gore in 2000, but Bush received 3000 more votes. Drake is the only county in Miami Valley where Kerry's votes was less than Gore’s and where Bush's vote rose dramatically.


Mahoning and Mercer — the only counties in the Mahoning and Shenango valleys to use electronic voting machines and among only a handful in Ohio and Pennsylvania with the technology — encountered a series of problems that delayed results for hours Tuesday.
http://www.vindy.com/basic/news/281829446390855.php
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INDIANA

In Laporte County, electronic voting machines tallied results for 22,200 voters, even though there are 79,000 registered voters in LaPorte County. Assuming the county actually had a 65% turnout rate (comparable to others in the area and its own track record), that means 29,000 votes were not counted.
http://www.michigancityin.com/articles/2004/11/04/news/news02.txt
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THE SOUTH

Atlanta, GA - A national voting rights group says it documented hundreds of voting irregularities affecting poor and minority voters in seven Southern states - from long lines and faulty equipment to intentional voter intimidation
http://www.abcnews4.com/news/stories/1104/185549.html
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NORTH CAROLINA

11,283 extra votes for bush in North Carolina, blaming a "software glitch"...
A systems software glitch in Craven County's electronic voting equipment is being blamed for a vote miscount that, when corrected, changed the outcome of at least one race in Tuesday's election.
http://www.newbernsj.com/SiteProcessor.cfm?Template=/GlobalTemplates/Details.cfm&StoryID=18297&Section=Local

Computer Loses More Than 4,000 Early Votes...
Jacksonville, N.C. -- More than 4,500 Carteret County votes have been lost because officials believed a computer that stored ballots electronically could hold more data than it did.
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/3892151/detail.html

also:
http://www.thestandard.com/internetnews/000563.php
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NEBRASKA

Sarpy County, Nebraska, 10,000 votes too many (ES&S machines)
http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/1161971.html

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GENERAL MEDIA
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An interesting article by Maureen Farrell: Another Rigged Election? The Elephant in the Voting Booth (with links)
http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/11/far04038.html

As you know, investigative journalist Greg Palast has argued that it is very likely that John Kerry won the election
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won_.php
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 08:33 PM
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1. Give to the Greens in Ohio -- they need $110,000 by tomorrow!!!


They need $110,000 to pull off their request for a recount -- please send money to:


For the OHIO recount:

Make checks payable to;
Green Party of Ohio
P.O. box 754
New Albany, Ohio
43054

Paypal donations can be sent to;
treasurer@ohiogreens.net

Send this to everyone you know!!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:14 AM
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Nitro Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 08:42 AM
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3. Give to Greens, NOT to Nader!
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 08:45 AM by Nitro
1. I have no doubt the presidential election was stolen with e-voting - NO DOUBT!

2. I understand why we are pursuing NH for the recount. I see how it get the ball rolling. But it looks like we no longer need to do it anyway.

3. I think we are being tricked.

WHY?

The 57-41 and 58-41 exit polling results were a plant. The Repukes obviously had access to the early exit polls before anything was leaked, and they knew what the results would tell everyone: a sure Kerry win. They knew that after they manipulated the machines, people would surely find out about it using statistics and common sense (like we have).

So what did they do about it?

They went and changed one. They manipulated the NH exit poll results so we would call for a recount in a state that requires a paper trail, which would "confirm" that no cheating occurred (and possibly this is why Nader has answered our call - no, I don't trust him. How could I?).

Why do I believe this?

I remember seeing two early exit polls, and the one most people weren't using polled Kerry up by 3% in NH(the one not leaked from the NEP). In this less used poll, Kerry had basically the same margins as he did in the NEP in the other questionable swing states (but not NH).

Remember, the evidence of vote fraud isn't strong in NV, which requires a paper trail, and ME, which doesn't use e-voting. Do you actually think the Repukes hadn't considered NH's paper trail? Please people, come to our senses. We can't let them use NH to tell us were wrong!

Just look at all this:

This is from some message board on election day:

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Wonkette sez: Repub Luntz's numbers... (none / 0)

5:25 p.m.
From an email circulated by Frank Luntz:
Way too close to call/BUT leaning Kerry by 1 percent
Fla.
Ohio
Pa.: 54 percent for Kerry
Wisc: 3 point lead for Kerry
Iowa.: 1 point lead for Kerry (Bush supposed to win)
NM: Kerry plus 2
Nev: Bush plus 1
NH: Kerry by 3
NJ: 8 points for Kerry
Colo: Bush plus 2
Mich: Kerry plus 4

http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=65809
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Notice how every other state matches with the early exit polling, except NH!!!!

Also check out this post here about exit poll numbers:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Another clue:
Zogby had +5 for Bush in his pre-election polling. +10 and higher is outside of the MOE.

Rove eagerly pointed out the huge "lead" in NH on FOX:
http://www.registerguard.com/news/2004/11/09/ed.edit.ex...

Also, here:
NRO's Kathryn Jean Lopez proffers the following set of numbers at 5:28 PM:

Kerry-Bush
FL 50-49
OH 50-49
PA 54-45
WI 51-46
MI 51-47
NH Kerry +3

NV 48-50
CO 46-53
NC 49-51
MO Bush +11

http://www.danieldrezner.com/archives/001709.html

And here:
NUMBERS WE'RE SEEING
WARNING: I'M REPORTING WHAT WE ARE SEEING. IT DOES NOT MAKE IT THE FINAL RESULTS. ONLY THE VOTERS DO THAT. (And excuse cap letters, but everytime I warn, half the readers tell me I should have warned and the other half say I am pathetically desperate.
Kerry-Bush
FL 50-49
OH 50-49
PA 54-45
WI 51-46
MI 51-47
NH Kerry +3

NV 48-50
CO 46-53
NC 49-51
MO Bush +11

http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/04_11_02_corner...

Also, please read this article again, and pay careful attention to the part on NH:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/03110...

Remember, Kerry became the first Democrat since Woodrow Wilson in 1912 to beat a sitting Republican president in New Hampshire. Do you really think he would win by 18 points, out of nowhere?!? And why were these specific numbers leaked so heavily and reported by on by the same corporate media who said they wouldn't discuss exit poll numbers?!?

We're relying on rational thought and statistical proof to conclude that Bush cheated. Please use the same rational approach to statistics to realize it didn't happen in NH!!!!!! All they needed to do, really, was switch the ones digit in the leak email (so that 51-48 became 58-41).

NH COULD RUIN ALL THE HARD WORK WE'VE DONE SO FAR. WERE BEING TRICKED INTO PROVING OURSELVES WRONG!!!!!! DO NOT GO THROUGH WITH THE RECOUNT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE!!!!! THEY MANIPULATED THE NH EXIT POLL DATA TO THROW US OFF FROM THE REAL FRAUD!!!!!!!
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