Jonathan Alter on Olbermann

"Don't give up, Keith."

He gave KO kudos for pressing this story. KO says, "Reporters probably wanted a few days off" after the election. He thinks they'll start getting on it when they return to work. And Alter kept pressing Keith to stay on the story.

Apparently, Olbermann isn't America's only ally looking into the 2004 voting mess. Regardless if it turns out for us or agin' us, it's a story that has to be told. Thank God there are a few people with their eyes and ears open.

and take names on the voting scandals. Remember to send those supportive emails!!!

KOlbermann@msnbc.com

election.

is NOT doing their job on this story. They seem to think it only matters if we know it will change the outcome of the election. It matters no matter what. Hello out there????? Wake up!

concerned.

officials when we know it would just take a well connected Rat w a modem.

It is an embarrassment. The FBI, CIA both denied alerting authorities to a homeland security risk...so, they are lying. Big time. Several times. The question is WHY?

If the FBI has come forward and basically proven that Warren County Officials flat out lied, WHY THE HELL AREN'T THOSE FBI ON THE WAY TO WARREN COUNTY RIGHT NOW TO DO SOME SERIOUS INVESTIGATION INTO FRAUD??????

Something STINKS there, and they shouldn't be allowed a moment of peace until they fess up!

against WARREN COUNTY??

ALL THE PEOPLE LIVING IN OHIO.......you should ALL be writing your newspapers, phoning into radio talk shows and talking to lawyers and sue WARREN COUNTIES ASS OFF.

to give out false information reportedly from the FBI, and especially on terrorists alerts? No one is being held accountable for a damn thing in this country, unless of course you or I do something wrong on the internet(s).

more terrified of the B* lies than the terrorists).
BTW, did you all see the photos of the tank at the peaceful LA anti-war demonstration? I'll get the link if you want.

maybe it was the terrorists. it would make sense they would intervene on chimpy's behalf since he's been so good for their business.

conveniently a week after the election.

A coincidence, to be sure.....

margin" bullshit.

Newsflash, Jonathan: we don't elect Presidents by popular vote.

Duh.

I can't believe he said twice that the voting problems weren't enough to change the election because the election was decided by 3.5 million votes.

And what happened to his head?

But OMG -- I didn't know he wore a toupee and I was just FLOORED to see him without it. PUT IT BACK ON, Jonathan. You NEED it. (Hate to sound superficial, but I was just stunned. Still am.)

to his hair.

was no longer wearing a toupe. I've seen people with radiation treatment, and their hair falls out much more unevenly.

Sorry if it's true. I didn't mean to be that crude, and he's always seemed like a decent, intelligent guy.

but ya know what? I've never heard of anyone losing their hair JUST in the traditional male pattern baldness areas.

:shrug:

I do like him though -- it was just shocking to see him that way.

He lost all his hair from chemo treatments...

he just got back to work not long ago.

Those things make most people look sad and pathetic. It's OK to love your heads, boys. It's how God made lots of us.

On edit: I didn't know about the cancer. Damn, that's awful. I've lost a sister and a mother that way. Godspeed, Jon.

He had chemo.

It's been posted twice.

The guy has been really sick.

I hadn't seen any posts about it until the one's that came up in this thread.

In the race for Governor of Washington state, the Republican Dino Rossi is ahead of the Democrat Christine Gregoire by 2.000 votes and over 150.000 remain to be counted.

Yet, Rossi today claimed "victory" and gave the green light to his "transition team" to start working!

When the Republicans want something they are not ashamed of pushing hard for it.

Lesson to be learned!

When are Democrats going to stop rolling over for these bastards?

I want my,
I want my,
I want my,
Howard Dean!

is letting his mob colors show.

it all wide open with a manual recount. Optical scans all over this state.

A recount would be mandatory. And yes, Rossi is a gangster.

The Republicans will do anything to bully any Democrat out of their way. They want total power, no opposition. Period.

What makes you say he's a gangster? I'm not arguing, just wondering what his connections are that you know about. Hope your not basing that on his name?

Is a right wing Republican that uses a "bulldozer" to make his points. That's it.

n/t

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

Glad to be amongst friends...I can't post to "breaking news" yet, but thought this might be of interest...

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Students come out strong for Dems, gay-marriage rights

http://www.athensnews.com/archives/article.php3?story_id=18870

2004-11-11
By Jim Phillips
Athens NEWS Senior Writer

Ohio University students appear to have lived up on Nov. 2 to the expectation that they would favor Democrats and liberal causes in general -- though with some minor surprises. In getting a feel for the student vote, The Athens NEWS looked at nine Athens City precincts -- 1-5, 1-6, 2-1, 2-2, 3-1, 3-2, 3-3, 4-4 and 4-5 -- that are almost certainly student-dominated. This could technically be true, population-wise, of most precincts in the city, but among the nine we considered "student precincts," it's probable that the overwhelming bulk of the turnout was students. Among the nine precincts, for example, are some that include OU residential greens, which probably have few non-student residents. In these precincts, presidential candidate John Kerry won overwhelmingly, as did Ohio Senate candidate Terry Anderson. Both candidates lost their races, however. Kerry took Athens County as a whole, with unofficial figures giving him 63 percent of the vote to Bush's 36 percent. Two independents accounted for the remaining 1 percent. Most of the rest of southern Ohio, with the exception of Dayton, voted for Bush.

Among OU students, Kerry performed even better than the county as a whole, taking more than 70 percent to Bush's 30 percent.

Nationwide, Bush won both the popular and electoral votes (assuming allegations of vote fraud turn out to be unfounded), and he won Ohio, too.

This whole thing reminds me of the reporting on Watergate (not that I was old enough to know, but I studied in college as a communications major).
When Woodward and Berstein first began investigating the break-in at the Watergate Hotel, they were "pishawed" by most of the other news media (and Republican power elite, too - the term "liberal media," came from Nixon's VP, Spiro Agnew, during the Woodward and Bernstein investigation).
Slowly, but surely, with the help of a good editor and the persistance of investigative journalism, the world - and other media - woke up to the fact that this wasn't a conspiracy theory and that brought down a regime.
Thank God for the new Woodward and/or Berstein - Keith Olbermann!!

from people from other countries, suggesting that we e-mail the heck out of foreign media...one suggested the middle east; reasons given are they hate B*, and if they covered it, it would really look bad if the U.S. isn't going to touch it. And with the upcoming elections in Iraq (can't imagine it taking place) it would look worse.

break through here and it just doesn't matter to most US citizens. They don't ever even see it. I don't think it would be effective.

I liked this so much, I put some of your thoughts in another thread. We all have to remember that mighty trees come from very small seeds. If we let the SCLM bury this, we'll be faced with a fate far worse than the one Nixon had in mind.

The neocons, fundies, and the rest of the extreme RW want nothing less than total domination of the American political system. The battle is joined, and we must stand and fight or lose all.

I'm so worried that we'll never have real elections in the U.S. again, I don't even care about winning this one at this point. I just want fair elections again.

Just kidding...

Wolfie, Wolfie!! What has he done??? I used to think he was pretty fair, but now I lump him in the same category as Wolfowitz!!

Just post at anothr thread about Keith. He's the ONLY newsperson I watch since the election! I watch some C-Span, but the REPUKES make me sick!

It's all about how he looks, and how pompous he can sound. What a chucklehead.

It seems like there's two schools of thought: either the FBI/Homeland Security is lying when they deny giving the county a warning, or the Warren County people are lying about receiveing one.

Maybe there's another possibility:

(Excuse me while I don my foil hat)...BUT, maybe the County people really were warned--by Rovian repubs POSING as Feds. I'll bet they could get really good looking badges and papers without too much trouble...

Just when I had taken the damn thing off...

(Now where'd I lay that :tinfoilhat:?)

telling repubs to vote on Tuesday and Democrats to vote on Wednesday. I wouldn't put it past them if they did impersonate the FBI.

by Alter's remark.

He's getting kicked in the teeth by the fascist freepers. But he knows he's doing the right thing.

I hope he sleeps well at night. He deserves it. Our modern day ER Murrow.

And it's nice to see Alter back in action after his illness.

:kick:

We need to keep flooding him with positive feedback and continue to send him and David Schuster information so they will continue to dig.

If we can keep the investigation open to some extent while we continue to push for the recounts we will have the media behind the decision.

I think it is important for us to keep investigating and pushing this story until we can prove something indefinitely either way. As much as we cannot prove election fraud the Republicans cannot prove that they have won legitimately.

If nothing else this should serve as the need to reform election systems and at the very best (or is it worse, really?) there were serious felonies committed.

Either way, it's important. Continue to give money to BBV, Nader and Cobb (if he decides to go through with the Ohio investigation).

Hello,

I would like you to continue your stories about the election and problems with the vote. I think that if we are going to promote democracy across the globe with our army then at the very least we should take basic steps to insure that our democracy is safe here at home.

I believe that registration and voting can be made simpler and more accurate if we just examine our current processes. I am not against electronic voting, but I feel that the machines should also generate a paper ballot that can be used for manual recounts. They do this in other countries how hard could that be to do. Also the real benefit of machines is that they can carry any ballot, so that voters would be able to vote at any polling place. Voting could be more than a single day, to prevent long lines, many states have early voting already.

Instead of votes being tabulated at a central computer, housed at a private company the whole process should be more accountable, and open to public inspection. How can we expect voters to have faith in a system that has proven to be riddled with error and lacks any real accountability when it doesn't take the simple precaution of warning a voter or a poll worker when it is no longer able to store votes?

I think that the real shame of the whole election is the fact that the voters are bombarded with such negative attacks by the candidates in our current election system that they are so tired of the whole ordeal they don't have the energy or desire to see the process through to a proper outcome. People are just ready to put the issue to rest at the cost of everything that we profess to promote and believe in.

Our democracy is in serious peril, when voters rights are trampled on before then election as special interests try to suppress registrations and votes and then later when they challenge the ballots cast because of errors, hanging chads, instructions that were too difficult for some voters to follow, signatures that seem mis-shaped or suspicious to a vote counter. Time and time again I here the stories of the disenfranchised voter. What lessons did we learn from the 2000 election? What can we do to make sure that every vote really counts? What can we do to get people to admit that there are big problems with our electoral process. Perhaps we could run ads on Television about electile dysfunction and our new prescription. I am not sure what the answers are, but I do know that we can find them with a little bit of national discussion, and the only way that is going to take place is if the media will cover this important story.

Thanks again for your coverage,

Respectfully,

voter

receiving some nasty emails as well as supportive ones. Also, my feeling is that if this story gets more attention the moderate Republicans (since they may be helpful I'll use the correct party name) may get on board for the demand for a vote review. Some of the Republican governors had written op-ed pieces about * frightened them near to death and that they were voting for Kerry.

I missed the 8pm show and I'm really tired. I'm trying to stay awake for the repeat at midnight. What part of the show does the Voter Fraud segment air?

...because I didn't see the whole thing. It was at least 10 minutes in, and probably closer to 15.

And welcome to DU, AJ! :toast: