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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:27 PM
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So, we have 10 days to recount Ohio (Starting Dec 3)????
Published on Wednesday, November 10, 2004 by CommonDreams.org
A Note On The Presidential Election in Ohio
by Congressman Dennis Kucinich

The 2004 presidential election was determined by the results of Ohio. The unofficial result, as reported on November 3, had George Bush with approximately 136,000 more votes than John Kerry. Senator Kerry conceded the election to President Bush. He also said every vote would be counted.

I have been vigilant in monitoring Ohio's election in 2004. Attorneys from my party closely monitored the election before and during election day. While there were some incidents of voter intimidation noted by the attorneys, most if not all cases were resolved at the scene because of quick action by challengers, witnesses, the Kerry campaign, and volunteers from other campaigns including my own.

The unofficial count gave Ohio to George Bush by approximately 136,000 votes. The official count by county Boards of Election will begin on Saturday, November 13, 2004. It is due at the Secretary of State's office by December 1. The Secretary of State must certify the election by December 3.

........

If the difference between George Bush and John Kerry is less than one quarter of one percent after the official tally is completed (about 16,000 votes) an automatic recount occurs under Ohio law.

If the margin is greater than one quarter of one percent, a candidate can request a recount at an expense to the candidate of $10 per precinct. Because there are approximately 12,000 precincts in Ohio, the recount would cost about $120,000, before legal fees. A recount would entail a visual inspection of every punch card ballot.



http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1110-31.htm

The Safe Harbor date (Remember the 2000 SCOTUS ruling?) this year is December 13th.

All this may explain a lot about what Kerry has done/will do.



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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:33 PM
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1. helpamericarecount
(from the website)

If you want to buy a recount in Ohio you don't need to live there...you do need to be a US citizen and you need to get out your check book. How much is Democracy worth to you...starting next week no one can stop us from auditing Ohio were gonna get em.

In New Hampshire, voting trends seemed to depend more on which voting machine was used than on what party voters were affiliated with. When asked to produce “zero reports” at poll opening, some Florida touch-screen machines reported votes were already in the system, apparent stuffing of the electronic ballot box. Gahanna, Ohio had thousands more votes show up than voters.

Accounting for provisional ballots has been murky, and anomalies have now surfaced in Cuyahoga County, Perry County, and Youngstown Ohio. Florida optical scan machines in 40 counties had statistically improbable results, which did not exist in Florida touch-screens. Technicians got inside access to a central tabulator in Collier County during the middle of the election, and modem security settings may have been disabled for Diebold machines.

http://helpamericarecount.org/
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:37 PM
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2. So there will be a recount in Ohio?
Or not? Sorry, I've been involved in my own drama this evening.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:44 PM
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3. Four chances:
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 10:44 PM by Junkdrawer
1.) Bev Harris believes citizens can ask for one (disputed:may only apply to ballot initiatives)

2.) Kerry may ask for one

3.) After counting ballots, if the race narrows to 16,000 or less, there's one called automatically

4.) The Greens are promising to ask for one tomorrow

All-in-all a recount seems likely. But FINISHING a recount in time seems less likely, IMHO.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:49 PM
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4. does seem as though a stall tatic is at work?
to limit the chances of a sucessful challenge
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:50 PM
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5. Remember the 2000 SCOTUS decision:
"Gore can now recount Florida - you have 2 hours."
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:27 AM
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6. Kick
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