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mgr (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-05 12:24 PM Original message |
Election Fraud Brainstorm Thread |
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mgr (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-05 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. String 1. Evidence to suggest votes for Kerry were lost |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Okay, I'll kick this off |
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Blue Shark (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
61. Febble... |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-05 07:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Does this string include the votes in strings 2-4? |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 04:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I think they were originally my categories |
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mgr (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 10:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. If I may |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 07:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. I think the election was "stolen" by vote suppression. |
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mgr (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
55. Deliberately destroyed voter registrations. |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 08:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
58. self delete, wrong string. nt |
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mgr (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-05 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. String 2: evidence suggesting votes for Kerry were deliberately stolen |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 12:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Walter Mebane's view on machine rationing |
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mgr (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
54. Could this be elsewhere, away from Ohio? |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 08:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. dunno , but anyplace you see long lines is a suspect... n/t |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-29-05 07:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
28. Just some headers |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-01-05 02:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
37. EIRS database |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 08:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
59. I think this thread has the best evidence ever presented on DU: |
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mgr (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-05 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. String 3: evidence suggest that loss of these votes cost Kerry the |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 01:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. list by Richard Hayes Phillips |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 07:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Vote suppression in Ohio (mgr and Febble): 100,000+ |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 09:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
26. Let's not forget Florida.... |
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mgr (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-29-05 10:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Long lines in Palm Beach, Volusia, Miami Dade |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-29-05 07:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. Here is a good list of Ohio vote-suppression fraud from Time_for_change: |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 09:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
50. Greens' recounts indicate no tab fraud in Ohio "clean" counties |
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mgr (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-05 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. String 4: evidence suggests that loss of these votes cost Kerry the |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 05:22 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Well, the exit poll discrepancy |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 07:23 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. (no, as I read the instructions, don't evaluate) n/t |
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mgr (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Let me push what may be a stand up argument: |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 07:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. assertion that the pre-election polls showed Kerry ahead |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 10:35 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Also butressed by the fact that the pool of undecideds was large enough |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 12:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. Means, motive and opportunity |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-29-05 04:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
27. I've been putting this off |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-29-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
33. Rove's three million Evangelicals |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 03:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. That's what I've been wondering |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 03:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. gulp |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-30-05 07:33 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. "Fundamentalists" vs. "Evangelicals" |
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mgr (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
52. One specific example is from Arizona (Tucson?) |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
51. Manual recounts: no evidence of widespread tabulator fraud. |
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mgr (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. However # 3 did assist in addressing some anomalies in Snohomish, |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-13-05 05:23 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. The DRE issue is different from "widespread tabulator fraud". |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
60. I think we need |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-05 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
6. Here's a thread where I propose 10 issues |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-05 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'm nominating this thread because it's a very good format for a debate |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-05 08:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. bear in mind this is a brainstorm thread, not a debate thread |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-27-05 09:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I guess I don't clearly understand the difference between |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 03:35 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I think that mgr's idea |
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mgr (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-29-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #10 |
30. The way I suspect most will settle on is |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-29-05 10:40 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. I hope I haven't been guilty of posting straw men |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
19. recommended |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-28-05 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
21. A collection of evidence regarding Ohio |
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Febble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
38. I'm kicking this |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
39. Lost Kerry votes - three more strings: |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. a. Kerry votes that were unable to be cast (vote suppression). n/t |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 08:56 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. "Voter intimidation, failure to issue absentee ballots, failure to issue.. |
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foo_bar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 09:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. do systematically broken machines go under suppression? |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 10:29 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Thanks! Long lines - caused by any problem - suppress votes..... |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-05-05 06:40 AM Response to Reply #40 |
49. Felon lists; Destruction of Democrats' voter-registration forms; and... |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 08:49 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. b. Kerry votes that were cast but can never be counted properly. n/t |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 09:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Under/over votes that do not clearly show voter intent. Also.... |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 10:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Kerry DRE votes switched to Bush n/t |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 08:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. c. Lost Kerry votes that can be counted properly in a manual recount. n/t |
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kiwi_expat (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-04-05 09:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. (Unless DRE votes) Tabulator errors and clear Under/over votes. Also.... |
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