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ever_green Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 02:58 AM
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We should have all written in DEAN for president
We would have a gotten a good man as president and avoided fraud (maybe). :)
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 02:59 AM
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1. Gotta disagree.
Would never have happened. Besides, write-in votes aren't counted. Check your state's laws.
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Winamericaback Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 03:11 AM
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3. Not counted?!
Then why the hell have the space there. Why not just a line that says Pick one of the two you dumbass.
Is this a fragment of democracy? "Put a line there for a write in, that way the voters will think we really give a shit and look at these, even though there is a state law banning write in candidates from being elected.. heh heh"

No wonder this country is going to hell *sigh*
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Hobbes199 Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 03:09 AM
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2. Makes you wonder...
If the primaries were rigged to squash Dean, like it was supposed that happened with Janet Reno in 2002... Same statistical M.O.
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ever_green Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 03:16 AM
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4. I believe that.
He woulda won, can't have that now can we.... :(
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 04:47 AM
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5. HELL YES THEY WERE RIGGED
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 04:48 AM by Carolab
Where were all of you when we WERE SHOUTING THIS FROM THE ROOFTOPS?

The DNC, Kerry's team, Gephardt's people and the RNC ALL conspired to defeat Dean in Iowa and New Hampshire. Hell, McAuliffe front-loaded the primaries so that they would get down to Kerry as quickly as possible. Kerry was "his" candidate from the start.

Didn't you read "A Political Mugging In America" at the Center for Public Integrity's website?

It tells you all about it.

THE DUMMIES WHO ALL BOUGHT INTO THE KERRY'S ELECTABLE MEME ARE TO BLAME, FOLLOWED BY THE DUMMIES WHO WERE TOLD TO VOTE FOR EDWARDS INSTEAD IN OTHER STATES BECAUSE THEY WERE TOLD THAT DEAN PROBABLY WOULDN'T CROSS THE 15% THRESHOLD.

HOW IN THE HELL DID THEY KNOW????

We were all set up. It's clear to me now.

Our only battle and hope now is Votergate.
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AnnitaR Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 04:58 AM
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6. NO Dem would have won this thing!
Sorry, but getting frustrated with this.

It wasn't who our candidate was. It wasn't abortion. It wasn't gay rights.

IT WAS FRAUD! Plain and simple!

We've got to quit second guessing ourselves and the Dem leaders (including the Big Dawg himself, whom I'm really pissed at right now)have got to stop spouting off how we need to change our party!

Stop the fraud and we win!
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 05:22 AM
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7. Yes of course
but Dean would have pulled such a groundswell of voters in that they wouldn't have been able to pull this heist off. It was too close anyway--because of the massive GOTV from the grassroots. WE carried Kerry, and they didn't expect us to.

That's why they stopped Dean. Don't you see?
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 06:16 AM
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8. As it was, I worked some for local candidates
If Dean would have been the candidate, I would have doorknocked our entire district.

Also, he would have understood the purpose of the anti-gay innitiatives, and would have countered them with populist rhetoric, energizing the democratic base to get out for the sake of civil rights

He also wouldn't have been on vacation for 20 days last summer.

Also, he can speak in terms that the average american can understand and associate with.

Dean would have won.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:06 AM
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9. I'm sorry but
Number one: The fraud would still have been there.

Number two: If he couldn't survive the primaries, which were brutal enough, then he sure as hell wouldn't have survived the Bush junta and the Rove machine.

So he was conspired against. That's politics for ya. It's like whining about your team losing because of the officals after the game is done. If he were tough enough, he wouldn't have lost in the first place. Now cut it out. Trust me, I'm a football fan. We don't need to be the 40-whiners in here. Not productive.

Bush and Co would have gotten whoever went in, at their weakest point. It didn't really matter. The only candidate I heard them actively fear was Edwards. He was too charismatic and Kennedy-esque for some of the Republicans. He scared them.

Kerry was a very well-rounded candidate, experience-wise. He proved that in the debates. And after all this fraud is exposed, we may find that he did indeed win. So what did he really do wrong in that case? Nuthin.

We thought he was brilliant a week ago.

And do you really think Dean would have done better than 55 million?

Having said all this, I do have a new-found admiration for the man. He's a stand-up guy with alot of passion. But even he admits he was naive on the ways of politics. He learned a thing or two this time and can apply it to the next. He'll have to get past the "nut job" label is all. Rush is praying he gets the DNC post. So am I, but for different reasons. We could use a bit of passion in that post. Go Dean DNC.

(it is the DNC and not the DLC, right? Auch, it's late. Good night.)
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