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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:51 AM
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Email from actor Peter Coyote on voter fraud
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 09:52 AM by Minstrel Boy
For those who don't know, Coyote has been talking about election fraud since 2000 (he narrates the documentary "Unprecedented," and has tried to raise awareness of BBV. Here he quotes TruthIsAll's 13-points.

Letter from Peter Coyote on Black Box Voting

Nov 09 2004 22:49:01


There is a bumper sticker I saw months ago that sums up the current state of affairs in our country regarding what is the biggest news story you'll never see on the General Media reported. It said "IF YOUR NOT OUTRAGED, YOUR NOT PAYING ATTENTION".

On Friday I received a phone call from a good friend who works at CBS - I've known her for years and she is a Producer for some of the news programs, one well known one in particular. She tipped me off that the news media is in a "lock-down" and that there is to be no TV coverage of the real problems with voting on Nov. 2nd. She said similar "lock-down orders" had come down last year after the invasion of Iraq, but this is far worse--far scarier. She said the majority of their journalists at CBS and elsewhere in NYC are pretty horrified--every one is worried about their jobs and retribution Dan Rather style or worse. My source said they've also been forbidden to talk about it even on their own time but she was pissed and her journalistic and moral integrity as what she considers to be a gov't watchdog requires her to speak out, while be it covert and she therefore asked me to "spread" the word...She said that journalism and the truth is at stake. She said another friend of hers, a producer at MSNBC, said that an anchor by the name of Keith Olbermann
had brought it up on his show on Friday eve and the axe came down.

He's at least fighting back and talking about it on his "Blog", but she said that people there are worried that he's going to be fired by higher ups. She said at this point the only way that the "real news" was going to be if the people started talking about it and made a big enough stink about it to our elected officials, the FEC, and "noise" to the international media, that our own media won't have any choice but to cover it. (Yes, this is really happening in the good ole' supposed "democratic" free press of the US of A). The only place you'll see this talked about right now is on the internet and on
AirAmerica Radio.

Everyone--this is serious....I can't emphasize it any more than saying if there was ever a time to speak up and take action it is NOW. If you are feeling sick to your stomach (like me) about the possibility of 4 more years under Bush and the future of our country, and yet you feel helpless, here's your opportunity to take action. Imagine if you saw a loved one drowning--what do you do? Well, our country's democracy is drowning and she needs us. In an email I sent you last night, I used the F-word--FRAUD and mentioned to you that I felt strongly that there is a lot of mounting evidence that this
election was not clean. I say that not only out of a result of my observations while out in the field as a poll watcher in the key battleground state of Ohio, I say it with the knowledge and information of reports that have been circulating around the country in various voting precincts involving irregularities and problems with the voting machines and numbers not matching up with the exit polls or actual numbers of registered voters in various precincts. I've been busy researching this issue and compiling for you below some details of these reports and where you can get more info:

To believe that Bush won the election, you must also believe:

1- That the exit polls were WRONG...(remember--they have been used for over a decade and considered reliable)

2- That Zogby's 5pm election day calls for Kerry winning OH, FL were WRONG. He was within a less than 1/2 % point margin of error in his 2000 final poll and previous polls for other elections.

3- That Harris Poll last minute polling for Kerry was WRONG. They were also within a 1/2% point margin of error in their 2000 final poll.

4- The Incumbent Rule #I (that undecideds primarily break at the end for the challenger)was WRONG.

5- The 50% Rule was WRONG (that an incumbent doesn't do better than his final polling)

6- The Approval Rating Rule was WRONG (that an incumbent with less than 50% approval will most likely lose the election)

7- That Journalist Greg Palast was WRONG when he said that eve n before the election, 1 million votes were stolen from Kerry. He was the ONLY reporter to break the fact that 90,000 Florida blacks were disnfranchised in 2000.

8- That it was just a COINCIDENCE that the exit polls were CORRECT where there WAS a PAPER TRAIL and INCORRECT (+5% for Bush) where there was NO PAPER TRAIL.

9- That the surge in new young voters had NO positive effect for Kerry, even though it was the largest number of youth voters 18-29 ever and a huge jump from 2000 and they were over 55% in favor of Kerry. >> 10- That Bush BEAT 99 to 1 mathematical odds in winning the election.

11- That Kerry did WORSE than Gore against an opponent who LOST the support of SCORES of Republican newspapers who were for Bush in 2000.

12- That Bush did better than an 18 national poll average which showed him tied with Kerry at 47. In other words, Bush got 80% of the undecided vote to end up with a 51-48 majority--when ALL professional pollsters agree that the undecided vote ALWAYS goes to the challenger.

13- That Voting machines made by Republicans with no paper trail and with no software publication, which have been proven by thousands of computer scientists to be vulnerable in scores of ways, were NOT tampered with in this election.

Some Examples: (There are many more, but I won't list them all here--this is to give you an idea)

- The City of Gahanna in Ohio discovered a discrepancy that gave 4,000 votes to George Bush. After media scrutiny, city officials have admitted to an electronic "glitch" that caused the problem.

- In Broward County, FL, errors in software code caused a referendum on gambling to be completely overturned. The error caused totals to count backwards after reaching a ceiling of 32,500 votes. The problem existed in the 2002 election as well however the issue was never resolved by the manufacturer of the electronic voting machine.

- In North Carolina, a Craven County district logged 11,283 more votes than voters and actually overturned the results of a regional race.

For more info, go to: http://www.blackboxvoting.org

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1106-30.htm

And here is an earlier open letter from Coyote to Barbara Boxer, warning of a "November Surprise."


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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:55 AM
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1. Sounds like he's not paying attention.
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 10:00 AM by No Surrender
Keith Olbermann has covered this story every day this week.

The info in this letter does sound exactly like what Bev Harris shared with us.

If they fire Olbermann because of this it will be the last straw for me.

If the WH is locking down the media, how much more proof do people need to believe there was massive fraud?

on edit - added comment.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:02 AM
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3. if this proves to be true....
which I have no doubt...we need a forum and
a organized effort....

to kick their asses every way and any way we can!!!!!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:16 AM
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8. I believe it's true also.
That's why the other "journalists" who do cover it poo-poo it. They are all marching in lock-step to their masters, who are marching in lock-step to the fascists in the WH.

Keith is also receiving on-air encouragement and words of support from his peers in the media as evidenced by the comments Craig Crawford and Jonathan Alter made to him about this. That in itself speaks volumes.

If the media was threatened on this, how far of a stretch would it be to think that the Democrats, including Kerry, were also threatened? :tinfoilhat:

We do need an organized effort. We already have their attention. We need to keep at it!
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:05 AM
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5. The email was sent last Friday,
so there have been developments - Olbermann, notably - in the meantime.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:18 AM
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9. I'm seeing a date of 11-9. That was Tuesday.
Where are you seeing 11-5?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:20 AM
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10. I see it now.
nevermind
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 09:56 AM
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2. just as we suspected....
we are in the fight for our lives (as Bill Moyers would say).....the f**** bushies are taking over the country...

lock down...can you believe it .....lock down


I sure as hell hope that Keith doesn't lose his job...
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:03 AM
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4. May be real but has that stupid I HEARD FROM A GOOD FRIEND intro
that always makes me feel queazy and suspect. Plus it looks a bit rambling and looks like a cut and paste of a recent "truth is all" post. Couldn't really find it on bbv site, though I didn't look that hard. May be wrong but I think its bullshit. At least, its uninformed.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:13 AM
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7. Still, it made me wonder...
Did Bush go into Fallujah in order to create a reason for a media lock-down?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:05 AM
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6. These are Bev's words of the other day, almost word-for-word...
The news media is in a "lock-down" and that there is to be no TV coverage of the real problems with voting on Nov. 2nd. She said similar "lock-down orders" had come down last year after the invasion of Iraq, but this is far worse--far scarier.

This smells funny to me. Especially since Olbermann went out of his way to say he had neither heard of nor seen any such "lock-down." Someone's pulling some shenanigans with this letter.

NGU.


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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:59 AM
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14. Can someone forward this to Keith Olbermann and Bev for comments?
Look- if this is real (and it's difficult to know whether it is or not), then we need to get this out into the public. Most of us probably believe that much of this is true- but the problem is, without knowing who wrote this or who the source is at CBS, I'd be careful about forwarding it around yet. If however, we could find a way to get him to send this to the mainstream media (and not just to internet groups) or make a public statement, THAT would be tremendous.Susan Sarandon mentioned Voter Fraud last week on Bill Mahar's show. Where are the rest of the notables and celebrities who worked so hard to get Kerry elected? Why are they not speaking out as well about this? Many remember what went on during the McCarthy period- are they not concerned about what is going on here as well? Celebrities offer something that the internet "underground" does not have- a megaphone and the ability to attract media. So, provided they can offer credible, factual information, they could help us tremendously by enlisting mainstream media to at least consider some of these comments as possible- and that is what is most needed now. Once we shift the spin from "conspiracy theory" to "investigating the possibilities" (as Keith Olbermann is doing so brilliantly), we have a shot at getting the word out to the public about what many of us believe is the "bigger story" as referenced by this letter.

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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:06 PM
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18. Hi KaryninMiami!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 07:11 PM
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19. plus some of the items on that list were posted by TiA here on DU
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:41 AM
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11. Who is ordering the "lockdown"? I thought prisons
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 10:47 AM by Carl Brennan
did this kind of thing not the media.


The lockdown isn't going to do any good anyway. DU investigative services--the Sam Spade of the Internet--is doing an end run around the corporate media whores. Maybe the whores should quit their jobs and go public.

Another thing these Press people need to think about. Their silence only increases the chances that Bush will get enough time to cover this shit up.

The right of voting for representatives is the primary right by which all other rights are protected. To take away this right is to reduce a man to slavery. - Thomas Paine


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Lucypher Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:49 AM
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12. This just goes to show you the...
Power of the darkside, and its control over the medi--Oh forget that. Move along, move along...
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pantouflard Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 10:51 AM
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13. I followed the link for
the "open letter to Sen. Barbara Boxer" and found, in addition to the letter, a link for a House Joint Resolution to repeal the 22nd Amendment, thus removing the presidential term limit.

Is this old news? I've never heard it before. I have to say, it scares the shit out of me.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:18 AM
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15. If they remove the term limit, let's nominate the Big Dog in 2008.
Watch them squirm.
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