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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 08:08 PM
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New Wisconsin Election Bill Not as Positive as Originally Reported


1/5/2006

New Wisconsin Election Bill Not as Positive as Originally Reported By Activists and Others
Contrary to reports, bill does NOT allow for examination of source code!
Original version -- which did -- was changed during amendment process to remove important clause!

Guest Blogged by John Gideon of VotersUnite.org and VoteTrustUSA.Org

Additional Reporting by Brad Friedman

The voting activist and election reform advocacy community was excited yesterday upon release of news about the signing of a new bill in Wisconsin, AB267, that originally included wording that would allow munipalities to "provide to any person, upon request, at the expense of the municipality, the coding for the software that the municipality uses to operate the system and to tally the votes cast". Indeed, The BRAD BLOG received many email reports last night about the "good news" concerning this bill.

The bill, as understood and reported by many, would have been the first time that voting activists would have been afforded the opportunity to actually "look under the hood" of voting machines by examining the source code used in the software in order to see what was really being done on the equipment supplied by Voting Machine Companies. So far, those companies have managed keep such source code secret and proprietary and away from the 'prying eyes' of the pesky public who has been forced -- by the corporate privatization of America's public elections -- to rely on such secret
software to accurately record and count their votes.

The apparent "good news," however, was incorrect, as The BRAD BLOG has learned. The language from the original bill was changed during the amendment process to strip it of the provisions that would have allowed the public inspection of the secret code!

The good news still left to report is that the bill, signed yesterday by WI Gov. Jim Doyle, will at least require a voter verified paper "record" for every vote cast. In theory, the measure would allow for a manual count or recount of votes in cases where the state determines such a count would be necessary.

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http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002239.htm

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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 08:16 PM
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1. K&R......nt
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Steve A Play Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 08:32 PM
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2. It appears that John Washburn has some good insight
into what's going on with this.

See his posts in this link.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 08:55 PM
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3. Considering that the positive news was originally
on the greatest page, it seems fitting that this extra information also be there to let folks know. And so...a recommendation.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 09:11 PM
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4. Recommended NT
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 10:06 PM
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5. I agree.....nt
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 10:26 PM
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6. Is autorank up yet?
C'mon, dude, give us a hand here. :-)
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Steve A Play Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:05 PM
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7. Duh! I just noticed the "recommend" link
and clicked it only to find out I don't have enough posts to recommend a thread.

I guess a :kick: will have to do.

Anyone else willing?

Steven P.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:22 PM
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8. Welcome to DU, Steve A Play!
Thanks, it seems to have made it.
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Steve A Play Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:36 AM
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17. Thanks for the welcome
I'm always happy when I can help. :hi:

Steven P.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:29 PM
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9. "The language from the original bill was changed during the amendment ...
process to strip it of the provisions that would have allowed the public inspection of the secret code!"

Changed by whom?

If holding State Legislators responsible for their hand in election fraud isn't already part of the GuvWurld Revolution, it should be.

Personal Accountability NOW!
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:32 PM
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10. Thats what I'd like to know.
Changed by whom?
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:37 PM
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11. GuvWurld rocks!
His approach to election fraud is to handle it locally and to hold the SOBs responsible personally accountable for their involvement.

IMO, that is KEY to ending this crime spree.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 11:45 PM
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12. I have followed some of GUV Wurld's stuff
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 11:46 PM by btmlndfrmr
I know he has been effective.

What is IMO?
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:17 AM
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14. IMO: In My Opinion
Sometimes, you'll see IMHO: In My Humble Opinion.

When I first found DU, I had to spend a lot of time at AcronymFinder.com ;)
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:30 AM
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16. Thank you
I misunderstood...

*slaps forehead*

and thanks for the URL.:hi:
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:05 AM
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18. I'll send you my little "cheat sheet"
It isn't much, but it has helped me.

:D
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:09 AM
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13. When the election theft machines comes
to the surface, and it will, we need to track down who made the change and hold them accountable.

Because they knew exactly what they where doing when they did it!!
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:18 AM
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15. Exactly. ... AND how much money they got for doing.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 01:22 AM
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19. it.
(Doh!) ;)
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