MOVE ON IS ON BOARD!

I am posting this for KaryninMiami (7 posts)

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I am not yet able to start a new thread so can someone plesae do this! MoveOn has started a petitition to congress demanding an investigation and they are "spinning" it perfectly (as we'd expect from this great team).

This friends, is a very good thing because they have a huge mailing list! Here's the email that's currently going around:


Dear MoveOn member,

Questions are swirling around whether the election was conducted honestly or not. We need to know -- was it or wasn't it?

If people were wrongly prevented from voting, or if legitimate votes were mis-counted or not counted at all, we need to know so the wrongdoers can be held accountable, and so we can prevent this from happening again.

Members of Congress are demanding an investigation to answer this question. The decision on whether or not there will be an investigation could come as soon as Monday. Join us in supporting the call for one now, at:

http://www.moveon.org/investigatethevote /

Then please invite your friends and colleagues to sign, as well. We need to show Congress that hundreds of thousands of Americans are serious about protecting the integrity of the vote.
We're all hearing the stories and wondering what's true and what isn't. But at least two cases of serious problems are accepted beyond doubt:


In Broward County, Florida, electronic voting machines counted backwards: as more people voted, the official vote count went down. <1>


In one Columbus, Ohio suburb, election officials have acknowledged that electronic voting machines credited Bush with winning 4,258 votes, even though only 638 people voted there. <2>


These are just cases where we know something went wrong. There were also lots of reports of people being denied ballots on Election Day. So far, these reports remain anecdotal, but they must be compiled and examined. And the Internet is abuzz with theories about why the official counts were so different from the exit polls.

Do you have a story? Were you prevented from voting? Tell us, at:

http://www.moveon.org/investigatethevote /

Six prominent members of Congress have called for an investigation. Representatives Conyers (D-MI), Holt (D-NJ), Nadler (D-NY), Scott (D-VA), Watt (D-NC) and Wexler (D-FL), have demanded that the U.S. General Accounting Office:

immediately undertake an investigation of the efficacy of voting machines and new technologies used in the 2004 election, how election officials responded to difficulties they encountered, and what we can do in the future to improve our election systems and administration. <3>
We've got to support their call by asking our own Representatives and Senators to join them.

If you have a personal story of disenfranchisement, tell us. These members of Congress have agreed to include our stories and comments in their call for an investigation. Please sign now -- we'll deliver our compiled statements to them on Friday.

Even if you don't have a personal story, your signature on our petition will still help build support for an investigation.

To keep our faith in democracy, we need to know the facts. Your signature, and your story if you have one, will help.

Thank you.

Sincerely,

--Carrie, Joan, Lee, Marika, Noah, Peter, Rosalyn, and Wes
The MoveOn.org Team
November 11th, 2004

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:toast:

There is no stopping this now!!!

Many people (myself included) tried like hell to get MoveOn "on board" about the dangers of computerized voting well before the election (like all of 2003 if not before), to no avail.

Glad to see they're "on board" now, and I thank them for that, but I have to shake my head sadly about "what might have been...."

Anyone want to send the link to the DU State Forums, Report Voting Problems and perhaps this link? --


VOTE FRAUD Links - a DU Compendium
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=201&topic_id=1984#

Speaking of leaders of the movement being out of touch...

I read that MM is making a movie to come out in a few years? About how Bush gave people false information and that's why he won?

I wrote him to say he had better focus on the present, and on how the vote was stolen or there won't be any movies like his shown in theaters, let alone any real elections.

his e-mail, as everyone knows, is mike@michaelmoore.com

It's strange how these people have been in denial about what is going on. I guess they must have been so wiped out by the election and the shock of it all that they just shut down....?

He could be a detriment to the cause

right at the beginning of the July 2003 push they issued this

http://www.moveon.org/moveonbulletin/bulletin24.html

which was extremely helpful

I was startled to find it in my inbox.

MoveOn has a lot members (including me) and a huge internet machine to "move" this story....super.

Hopefully, when all this is said and done, at the very least we'll have verifiable paper ballots for 2006. Even if Shrub stays in office, if some fraud or serious "miscounting" at the least is found, it will tarnish his term.

No. 1 though, on my list, is accurate, verifiable voting for everyone because if we had had this in the first place, we probably wouldn't be where we are now!

So fabuluous!

Since I'm here, I'll post the footnotes from the email that you didn't include:

Footnotes:

1. Broward Machines Count Backward, Palm Beach Post, November 5, 2004
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/politics/content/news/epaper/2004/11/05/a29a_BROWVOTE_1105.html

2. Glitch Gave Bush Extra Votes in Ohio, AP carried on CNN, November 5, 2004
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/05/voting.problems.ap/

3. Letters from members of Congress to David Walker, Comptroller General of the United States, demanding an investigation of the election: November 5th, 2004 & November 8th, 2004
http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/gaoinvestvote2004ltr11804.pdf
http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/gaoinvestvote2004ltr11804.pdf

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We are bringin' it! :toast:
:bounce:

we need to find hard evidence that the electronic vote counting was fixed, either before election day by someone with access to the machines, or during the election itself.

We know they did it (exit polls aren't that far off, and only in one direction). But now we've got to prove it.

I have been hoping beyond hope for this very thing to happen. MoveOn's mailing list is huge! (And I am proud to say that I am on it!)

Jumping for Joy!!! :bounce: