Election night, 2004: What's Rove doing with this bank of computers?

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By the way, the woman next to him is his executive assistant, Susan Ralston, whose previous job was as Jack Abramoff's personal secretary. Remember that Rove recalled about election day that he knew the exit polls were wrong because of his own "internal" polling. Remember also that Abramoff lobbied for Diebold and has ties to the creation of HAVA, which required electronic voting with no paper trail.

So what do you think ol' Karl might be saying into his telephone?

god damn it, you were bought, now f'ing stay bought!!

Jeb, I just put George 3 mil ahead in FLA!!! Let me call you back, I gotta get Ken Blackwell on the line....

I still don't understand this image. Al Gore was excoriated for making fund raising calls from his office. But, Karl Rove sets up a Bush campaign HQ in the White House and that's fine?

that picture has bugged me since i first saw it. can anyone say- hatch act??

So right on. It pisses me off no end to see the double standard of what's acceptable and not between Dems and Repukes in election activities. :grr:

Or, in theory it does. :(

After all, the CEO of Diebold guaranteed the Republicans a win. How else could he have done that?

We need to make sure Rove's computers are non-functional in November.

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in Columbus move 3000, and in Cayahoga move 5000.

That should do it, good job!

like Morrow County. There aren't many in a small county to move, so just move them in the BIG counties. No one will ever notice we lost 7% support in Morrow from 2000 to 2004. No one will ever question that if we lost 7% there why did we not lose more than 7% in URBAN counties."

"And get Warren County locked down; we're gonna need to keep our options open there til we see how Cuyahoga comes in."

and Rove. . . .

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I'm betting that Rove was up to no good, but if he wasn't what was he doing?

Now that the dots have been connected with Abramoff, Diebold, and HAVA I especially find it hard to believe Rove is only "checking his numbers". Also, I keep thinking of J. Kenneth Blackwell and how he plays into this whole mess. Having a computer connected to the central tabulators is just too much of a coincidence.

All the campaigning and get-out-the-vote efforts were already finished or in progress.

Did he really need to be the first guy in the nation just to know how the vote came out?

It makes no sense that he set up that huge operation just to "follow" the returns.

Given this cabal's mania for using every possible advantage, is it even possible to consider that they might NOT have used their inside knowledge of the voting system they helped set up?


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beaming while Kerry was leading mid evening.

They knew that they had lost.

Then later Karl got them out for a photo op to grin for the cameras.

Here's another version of the photo I found:



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The both looked awful coming out of the polling place in Texas.

he knows Kerry just beat the machine, and they are going to have to outright flip the election.

office and the county tabulators, Ken?

"Everything is just fine...trust me, Mr. Secretary."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3987237.stm

Early exit polls quoted by media seemed to give Mr Kerry the edge, but colleagues said Mr Rove indicated right away that they did not tally with his information.

He used his own data to put Ohio and Florida in the Bush column - bringing cheers from the president and his family when he went into the Roosevelt Room and told them

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That's pretty straightforward, isn't it?

Thank you, Notoverit, and a hearty (belated) welcome to DU.

By the time election night came around, Mr Rove was in the White House, where, unusually for a political adviser, he has an office.

He set up computers in the Old Family Dining Room and started tabulating results. He had set up a massive network of contacts, not just in state capitals, but individual districts and precincts to monitor turnout and support.

Early exit polls quoted by media seemed to give Mr Kerry the edge, but colleagues said Mr Rove indicated right away that they did not tally with his information.

He used his own data to put Ohio and Florida in the Bush column - bringing cheers from the president and his family when he went into the Roosevelt Room and told them.

And when the TV networks gave either Ohio or Nevada to Mr Bush but not both - which would have led him to be declared as the winner - Mr Rove was one of the president's aides who got on the phone to news chiefs to try to pressure them to change their minds.

results

Why count?

Everyone has voted. Those votes are getting counted.

Why is Rove counting? Why does his count matter?


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Mr Rove was one of the president's aides who got on the phone to news chiefs to try to pressure them to change their minds. :grr:

"And when the TV networks gave either Ohio or Nevada to Mr Bush but not both - which would have led him to be declared as the winner - Mr Rove was one of the president's aides who got on the phone to news chiefs to try to pressure them to change their minds."

Try to pressure them to change their minds about announcing a conclusive outcome YET because he knew the outcome would change, or????

I knwo the answer.

where because I had no access to LBN at that point. I don't know if one of the anchors slipped or what.

But it makes me think that no matter how much they try to control our access to truth, the truth manages to slip out of their grasp.

the two guys behind Rove are using?

I had never noticed that before. Good eye.

anywhere you are, reach out and touch someone...


Phones are so passe.

for that.

The user isn't traceable?

If so, WE SHOULD ALL BE USING THEM.

No kidding, my telco handed my records to the NSA wrapped in a ribbon.

Say more. How did you find out? This is freaky.

over your SPECIFIC records...I knew about AT&T.

the level of THEIR paranoia.

I won't do a foia request because it's a waste of our time. It should creep me out (but doesn't) that I just assume that anything I post or email or say on the phone or even in our home could be overheard.

The whole idea is to chill our conversations. If I don't give them that, they don't have anything.

And, it's not as though consequences aren't real to me. One of my family members was arrested and held for a year in El Salvador and probably would have been executed in an alley had he not escaped and recieved political asylum in Mexico. I understand fully what despots are capable of.

We just keep moving anyway, right? :toast:

'I don't care about the damn exit polls..we need more votes in Cuyahoga.
we'll just have Uncle Warren spew the line about reluctant responders, they can't disprove that one
Tell Lucas they need to have a few more machines break down, I'll attach a list of preferred precincts

(Karl covers the phone and leans over to his assistant) is Guckert on the way?, I'm gonna need him after this
'Yes sir, he's tied and waiting in the Lincoln Bedroom''

I can probably say with all certainty, he wasn't calling to save 15% on his car insurance.

Too many irons in the fire between the vote switching, the phone jamming, coordinating the intimidation and chaos and directing Suzie and Kenny to do his bidding to say exactly which felony was occurring at this particular moment.

You just wont let this go, will ya? :thumbsup:

I'm still waiting for my reply from that BBC reporter about the curious phrasing in that article. I'm sure she'll get back to me any day now.

K&R

phrasing...

"He used his own data to put Ohio and Florida in the Bush column." Exactly, how, did he do that? Still waiting for an answer. :hi:

THat was a VERY fishy statement...

in the flurry of stolen election momentum. I never liked it, and I still don't, and that goes double for Warren County. Oy.
Maybe it is time for another letter, now that time has passed. Not a bad idea at all.

Does anyone have any idea about the accessibility of these phone logs via public right-to-know laws?

(Thanks to diva77 for the idea.)

Please feel free to check out HAVA the ERD Mascot and take him home next weekend.

He can get a little testy and show you things you might not like...but it will
be memorable.

what Rove was doing at 12:23 a.m.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2004/11/3/3210/18188

n/t

...Playin' solitaire...yeah thats the ticket...solitaire.

Perhaps we're getting closer to finding out.

Karl Rove poses for a what he knows will become a dis-info photo seized upon by paranoids who don't know shit about how elections (in general, let alone 2004) are stolen.

He's probably ordering a pizza.

If there's a valuable story here, it's Abramoff's ex-secty working with Rove.

But sure. Let's trot this photo out as a means to educate the public. Perhaps a knuckle-dragger, or two, will be impressed by the logic.