Internet theories on election abound

These people shouldn't call themselves 'correspondents'. What a lazy bunch of idiots!


Internet theories on election abound
Even Democratic Party officials discount claims of unfair practices

By Chip Reid
Correspondent
NBC News
Updated: 6:48 p.m. ET Nov. 11, 2004

President Bush declared victory eight days ago, but in the parallel universe known as the Internet, the presidential campaign is still raging. Web sites hostile to the president claim massive vote fraud, that the election was stolen, that Sen. Kerry really won.

Presidential candidate Ralph Nader says Republican officials in Ohio skewed the election towards Bush.

"This election was hijacked from A to Z,” says Nader.

Most of the Internet stories focus on the key battleground states of Ohio and Florida.

In the Florida panhandle, they ask, how could Bush have won so big when registered Democrats far outnumber Republicans? In Ohio they claim a computer glitch gave Bush 4,000 extra votes. In many states, they insist, some voters pushed "Kerry" on touch screen machines, but the check appeared next to "Bush." And what about those early exit polls giving Kerry the lead? They say that means the election was stolen.

Convinced? Well, even the Kerry team is not, declaring in a statement Thursday that while they want every vote counted, "the outcome of the election is not in doubt.”

Doug Chapin, director of the non-partisan group Electionline.org, says there were many problems on Election Day, from long lines to malfunctioning machines, but there's no evidence the election was hijacked.

“I don’t think this election was stolen,” says Chapin. "I think there are conspiracy theories. I think they are consistent with a phenomenon we have seen on the Internet in recent years.”

On the Internet, stories are told and repeated, often without being verified. Regarding those Democratic counties in Florida that voted for Bush, they've been voting Republican for years. As for the 4,000 extra Bush votes in Ohio, officials say it was just one machine, caught and corrected.

How about those reports of a vote for Kerry getting Bush? Election experts say it happened both ways, and in most cases it was voter error. And as for the early exit polls they were just that, early, and election officials say, wrong.

But those explanations are likely to have little effect on the president’s Internet critics, who are convinced the Republicans stole the election – again.

and we call this innoculation

Me believes that they have their noses up the republican party's butts.

My respect for him, which had nowhere to go but up, has increase significantly.

That's what I've been doing on a daily basis. :)

is that I have yet to see a rationalization for exit polls that were way off on the presidential race, but not on the other races in the particular area.

Why only focus on the FL panhandle issue? That seemed very suspicious at first, but now we aren't taking about it anymore. Why not talk about the truly perplexing 'irregularities' that abound?

Were those polls I was referring to in the FL panhandle only? (Forgive me, I'm just getting into all this and have probably missed quite a bit.)

systems and optical scan ones. The optical scan ballots are tabulated using a system that is very easily hacked.

I think you're probably thinking of the difference between these voting processes. There have been many graphs illustrating the variations between exit polling and final results, showing that counties with the optical scans, regardless of their location, were way off (in favor of the Chimp, of course).

in my book it does anyway.

The "establishment" has a long history of labeling those who don't swallow the Kool Aid as "conspiracy theorists" or "conspiracy buffs"

Why does it make one a conspiracy theorist to question the outcome of an election that obviously has so MANY "errors" and discrepancies?

I think they protest too much!!

"Web sites hostile to the president claim massive vote fraud".

Excuse me,Buffalo Chip, but just because some website claims massive vote fraud doesn't mean it's hostile. It can be perfectly peaceable, even knowing we(U.S.A.) are getting freaking ripped off.

(Oh yeah, I forgot, your either with us or your against us. So that makes one hostile?)

Is that when some freeper blogger "uncovered" Rathergate, they were all abuzz about pajama-bloggers as the unheralded guardians of the media. And iirc that freeper's comments about fonts turned out to be wrong; nevertheless they were championing pajama bloggers. Remember? It was only a few weeks ago?

Now, when our side's bloggers bring up actual verifiable inconsistencies and factually significant problems the best they (msm) can do is call us "internet conspiracy theorists".

Fucking pisses me off!

Thom Hartman on Democracynow.org was just noting who the Republican have fought for years to keep a bill for coming out of committee that would require e-voting audit trails. The was on Wednesday's program. Amy's great!

again? Is the media completely braindeleted on the whole dictionary of fraud? And does that chanfge the data? Gore won except for court giveaways and projected House theft of electors if that didn't work. Kerry won but the media switched faster than the exit poll data.

They are fing frauds, incompetents and traitors to preserve something that is not nor ever will be what the founding fathers intended. Something more closely resembling every day in word and deed the miserable, horrible failure of Germany in 1939.

Yeah chew and swallow but never say the words. The media is a fraud and TV and radio were never hot on the job to begin with. Nor was the press with brief periods of muckraking and handwringing crusades to do their job(Watergate).

Flattering yourselves, establishment, will get you nowhere, which is where we cyberspace forums are with the truth. Nowheres.

So WHY are they worried? They want more butt kissing while we murder and die?

Send him some facts. Or just shame the boy into doing the right thing. Whatever. He needs to hear from those he's dissing, so he knows better the next time he goes about messing with us.

Give me his damn address, please!