Who else is sick of "liberal" media icons ignoring election fraud?

Like Bill Maher for example. He just had Richard Clarke on who said Bush won in Ohio because of the gay marriage ban - and he agreed. I'm sure it had nothing to do with the myriad of election problems in Ohio on that day.

This "why we lost" mentality of the left, specially those in power to tell the truth about election fraud (ie Maher) makes me want to puke.

I think it's time to march on Maher's studio - perhaps a large group of us get studio audience tickets his first show of the next season and raise hell (& probably get kicked out). There are a couple audience shots at the top of the show that would give us exposure.

They both either don't believe there was fraud or they believe it was so small that an exceptional candidate should've been able to get enough votes to overcome the theft. A win is having 1 vote more than the other person and now the GOP IS good enough to steal millions and millions and millions of votes.

:grr:

daily, I rarely tune in to Franken, so I haven't heard him lately. :shrug:

Thom Hartmann is *all over* election fraud on a regular basis. He isn't perfect, no one is, but he is one of the most reliable, well-informed, passionate advocates we've got.

http://www.whiterosesociety.org/Hartmann.html

SOME RESOURCES FOR AMERICAN REVOLUTION II:

Hopeful signs - latest news:

California voters sue the state over Diebold:
www.VoterAction.org is suing the state of California and 18 Calif county registrars on behalf of 25 California voter/plaintiffs, on the illegal Diebold "certification" by Schwarzenegger appointee Bruce McPherson.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2180496
Seven of these counties just promised the judge they would use PAPER BALLOTS, and were dismissed from this lawsuit (4/27/06).
http://kcbs.com/pages/29285.php
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2249205

Maryland rejects Diebold:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x418263

Florida - anti-trust accusations against Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia, re: heroic Florida election official Ion Sancho:
(FLA AG subpoenas the companies)
http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/legalissues/story/0,10801,110192,00.html
http://www.tbo.com/news/politics/MGBKSY8W8LE.html
(info & discussion)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2183630

Utah county clerk fights back!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x419226

(Tide turning?) New York Times: "New Fears of Security Risks in Electronic Voting Systems" (5/12/06)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2278829

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More resources for American Revolution II:

www.votersunite.org (MythBreakers - easy primer on electronic voting--one of the myths is that HAVA requires electronic voting; it does not.)
www.UScountvotes.org (statistical monitoring of '06 and '08 elections--they need donations)


(Activist sites with links to state activist groups or info)
www.votetrustusa.org (news of this great movement from around the country)
www.votersunited.org (good general info, and state links)
www.verifiedvoting.org (great activist site)
www.solarbus.org/election/index.shtml (fab compendium of all election info)

www.freepress.org (devoted to election reform)
www.bradblog.com (also great, and devoted to election reform)
www.TruthIsAll.net (analysis of the 2004 election)* :patriot: :applause: :patriot:
www.votepa.us (well-organized local group of citizen activists in Pennsylvania, where important legal issues are at stake, including state's rights over election systems)
Provisions of the PA lawsuit:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x423739

The Voter Confidence Resolution
http://tinyurl.com/rlnr2 (“We Do Not Consent”)
http://guvwurld.blogspot.com (GuvWurld blog main page)
http://tinyurl.com/amryg (Voter Confidence Resolution

www.debrabowen.com (Calif Senator running for Sec of State to reform election system)
www.johnbonifaz.com (running for Massachusetts Sec of State on strong election reform and antiwar platform)

*Some tributes to TruthIsAll, who is very ill:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x417007
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x417231
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x675477

Congressional bills:

Russ Holt's HR 550 requires a real paper ballot, bans secret software in "voting machines", and has more than 170 co-sponsors, but the audit required is too weak, it promotes electronic voting and centralized power, and the secret software might be permitted to continue in the central tabulators (the bill is not clear). To sign the HR 550 petition: http://www.rushholt.com/petition.html
At lot of discussion at DU of the loopholes/pitfalls in HR 550:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x422926
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x421136
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=422967&mesg_id=422967
(Note: Senate Bill-SB 330 and House-HR704 simply require a "voter verified paper audit trail" (VVPAT), which may be best for the moment.)


Also of interest:

Michael Collins (Autorank)'s searing election reform article for New Zealand's Scoop.com
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x971363

Bob Koehler (-- four recent election reform initiatives in Ohio, predicted to win by 60/40 votes, flipped over, on election day, into 60/40 LOSSES!--the biggest flipover we've seen yet; the election theft machines and their masters are now dictating election policy! Title: "Poll Shock" 11/24/05)
http://commonwonders.com/archives/col321.htm

Bob Koehler's latest: "Trust us: Take this box and stuff it" (3/16/06)
http://commonwonders.com/archives/col337.htm
More Koehler:
www.tmsfeatures.com/tmsfeatures/subcategory.jsp?file=20051124ctnbk-a.txt&catid=1824&code=ctnbk

Amaryllis (Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia lavish lobbying of election officials - Beverly Hilton, Aug. '05)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x380340

HOWARD DEAN remarks on electronic voting machines 04/06
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x994507

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Throw Diebold, ES&S and ALL election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!

:think: :patriot: :woohoo: :patriot: :think:

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"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it." --Thomas Jefferson, The Declaration of Independence

He will say some things for the Left and some things for the RIGHT.


Do you mean the Richard Clarke that wrote the book?

What you are trying to accomplish is divisive...its not good to DIVIDE....

TOGETHER WE STAND...DIVIDED we are fucked.....

Please proceed to the Next Level where Sanity and Reason reside.

Come, we go surfing, walk the beach, eat ice cream....

I have a feeling that deep down Maher agrees with us that it was stolen...he just has reasons for not bringing it up on his show. Perhaps the same is true of Franken.

This is not good for the Dem Victory we all want...

...if they acknowledged it? Just a speculation.

I would be ticked if it's in the mix. Anyone who went after it with both feet would get my financial support. But I have to wonder if they're worried that $ support would evaporate if people thought that voting meant bupkus.

been caught with their hand in the cookie jar (election rigging) the whole lot of them. There is 50 ways they could get out of this uncomfortable situation for them while saving face, but they choose to REMAIN SILENT.

We need to get the word out to the Government that they are slowly getting surrounded with the truth on these vote stealing machines.

My 2 cents.............

Of course, one reason I became a faithful viewer is because he didn't just shut up and accept the "results" of the 2004 election. He spent months covering reports of election fraud and funny goings-on, in Ohio and elsewhere. Nobody else on TV was--they had all moved on and bought the "values voters" crapola. Of course, for doing this, Olbermann received the official freeper designation of Public Enemy No. 1, Chief Tinfoil-Hat-Wearing Moonbat. But the truth is, he was a hero.

Bush didn't win in Ohio. I refuse to believe to this day that Bush won in Ohio. I have heard and read too much to make me believe that election was anything near legitimate.

I guess the topic of election rigging is only good for jokes. :shrug:

He is witty and sophisticated and can be charming and funny - but he is a comedian and not particularly deep on his political analysis. He is our Dennis Miller replacement. Having watched his HBO show on and off I've learned to not hope that Bill will have done his homework (regarding the RNC talking points that are going to come flying out on his show) nor do I expect him to have anything other than a superficial understanding of the profound crisis our republic is in.

The American people are not stupid. They didn't vote Bush into office either time, and all these theories about why we lost FL or OH or one of the other states where the fix was in with the voting machines are just so much hot air.

The only thing wrong with the American electorate right now is the they are disenfranchised. Give them back the vote and all these other supposed reasons for the failures of Dems will be seen for what they are: lies and illusions. Kerry was a great candidate and ran a great campaign. He won by a larger majority than Gore won with I feel sure, that is, if the votes had been properly counted.

And Cleland, Mondale and Strickland (in CO) also won their elections in 02 I feel sure. But unless the Dems confront this issue of election vote rigging thru the use of the electronic voting machines, nothing can be done and nothing is possible at all. It's by far the number one issue in America and in the world.

are real! Why they ignore them is something that I might call committing political suicide! How can Dems win with the Republican manufactured and programmed voting machines in control?! Repubs want to count votes in secret?! They do not want a paper trail?! Those a red flags to me and you would think it would be red flags to Dems?! Conyers knows and is not afraid to speak out, but why are most Dems afraid? What are they afraid of? Do they want to win? Sometimes I wonder........ Where is logic?