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In Truth We Trust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:49 PM
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Want Democracy back??? Paper ballots and HAND COUNTS NOW!!!
TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Mon Mar-21-05 01:31 PM
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100% ABSOLUTE PROOF: FINAL NEP OVERSTATED BUSH VOTE BY AT LEAST 2 MIL.
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 02:01 PM by TruthIsAll
Here is incontrovertible proof that the FINAL National Exit Poll (13660) overstated The Bush vote by a MINIMUM OF 2 MILLION VOTES.

After proving it was at least 2 million, a little common sense will reveal that it was probably overstated by more than 3 million.

In the FINAL NATIONAL EXIT POLL of 13660 RESPONDENTS, POSTED ON CNN at 2:05pm on 11/3, 43% of voters claimed to have voted for Bush in 2000 while only 37% said they voted for Gore.

The PRELIMINARY EXIT POLL (13047 RESPONDENTS, 12:22am on 11/3) had this demographic at 41% Bush/38% Gore. So the numbers were adjusted from 41% in the Preliminary poll to 43% in the FINAL, OFFICIAL EXIT POLL.

BUT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR 43% OF 122.26 million 2004 VOTERS TO HAVE VOTED FOR BUSH IN 2000 BECAUSE 43% of 122.26 = 52.57 MILLION VOTERS.
AND THE BUSH 2000 VOTE WAS JUST 50.5 MILLION.

THAT'S AN OFFICIAL ERROR, NOT A THEORETICAL ONE.
IT'S A 4% ERROR IN FAVOR OF BUSH. BUT THE EXIT POLL MARGIN OF ERROR, ACCORDING TO MITOFSKY EDISON, WAS +/-1.0%

THE ODDS ARE NEAR ZERO THAT THE 1.0% MOE WOULD BE EXCEED BY 3.0%.
THEY ARE EXTREMELY LOW EVEN IF THE MOE WERE 2.0% (IT WOULD BE OFF BY ONE MILLION VOTES).

WHERE DID THESE 2 MILLION VOTERS COME FROM?

We KNOW that at least SOME fraction of Bush 2000 voters DIED.
Some were INCAPACITATED and did not vote.
Some decided to STAY HOME and did not vote.
And some, believe it or not, actually VOTED FOR KERRY.

SO COMMON SENSE TELLS US THAT FEWER BUSH 2000 VOTERS HAD TO HAVE VOTED FOR HIM IN 2004, NOT MORE.

ASSUMING THAT 1-2 MILLION FEWER 2000 BUSH VOTERS ACTUALLY VOTED FOR HIM THIS TIME, THEN HIS 2004 VOTE WAS OVERSTATED BY 3-4 MILLION VOTES. THAT'S A 6-8% DIFFERENCE.

One final thought. The 2000 vote is an historical fact. In the ONLY demographic for which the final exit poll is matched to an actual vote count (in 2000), it is found to be absolutely bogus.

SO HOW IS ANYONE TO BELIEVE ANY OF THE OTHER RESULTS IN THE FINAL EXIT POLL?

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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:53 PM
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1. Yep, I think you're hitting the nail square on the head
It's not who gets the most votes, it's who counts the votes according to the neoCONS.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 08:55 PM
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2. Kicked!! (nt)
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 09:14 PM
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3. i believe the law actually requires a method of RECOUNTING, that makes
the machines illegal.. check the Law

i believe the law states there has to be a method of recounting the votes, involving a wittiness of both parties while the recounting is being done.. that makes the machines illegal.

i had the law but my puter crashed, and my backups are packed

shouldnt be too hard to find
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 12:49 AM
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5. Thats what my state's law says
But I've been told that the paper spit out by the machine was good enough for them. AAARRRGGGHHH!
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:54 AM
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8. not true.. the Recount has to be verified.. cant watch digitation
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-18-06 10:58 PM
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4. K&R............nt
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 02:16 AM
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6. K&R(nt)
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 10:32 AM
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7. And how will we get the word out to the Masses of Democrats?


What can they DO to demand Paper Ballots?

No one has given me an answer to that question and I have asked it at least 10 times.

We are preaching to the choir, unless we inform the voters WHAT they can do to demand paper ballots and WHO they can call, write to ~ we are no where on this issue.
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