Don't crush that troll hand me the pliers. Plenty o'desperate newbies here

tonight. I can smell the fear.

they just don't change their underwear very often :)

I'm that old.

I guess they are too...This cast member is still alive and internet saavy:

http://www.planetproctor.com/

I am a newbie, though a long-time lurker. I tried to join on Nov 3, but DU was locked to new registrants. No one is talking to me, and I can understand why, but I am true blue for the good side. How can I prove myself?

in case you are reading this.

If you are not what you claim you are, you will prove yourself the other way.

Or the Lorenzacchio syndrome or the Egyptian comedian saint who pretended to be a bishop to trap the Christian prisoners into talking.

That is to say, converts. Which we have NOT seen yet. The truth moves few people in these times when money rewards evil.

Just be honest and open.

Don't worry if you feel ignored - most of us don't talk with one another. This board moves so fast it is unusual to get a direct response to any post. Most threads drop quickly.

There are only a few rules on DU. Don't knock Democrats or Democratic nominees, don't personally attack anybody, and don't call anybody a troll. If you are concerned that a post or poster is breaking the rules, just hit the "alert" button on the bottom left of the post and let the mods look at it.

This thread will probably be locked because it is a violation of the DU rules to start threads with vague accusations about freepers and disruptors - for the very reason that it makes lots of innocent people feel uncomfortable.

If you are new to DU you are welcome as long as you follow the rules!

you just can't suggest people vote to defeat them in the general election.

being a low post count, if you immediately start a thread that says "I'm so depressed," or venting, or ragging on the D's, or ragging on the election fraud activists, this being so soon after the election, and this being a particularly troll infested time, you're, unfortunately, going to seem like a troll to some people. This is a perfectly valid way to feel, of course, but you might be best off expressing such opinions on similar thread which has already been started by a high post counter.

also, try the lounge, it's good for chit chat and venting and thus getting your count up.

and, a lot of times people DON'T respond to your posts... I consider it quite an honor when I get a response or start something that stays on the front page of a forum for more than a few minutes. that's just life on DU.... :hi:

oh, and source, source, source. always substantiate your statements, that's a good way to build cred. and try not to post something that's been on here 1000 times already, that's another way to build cred.

HTH.... :D welcome to DU.

Thank you for responding to my plea ;) .... I will prove to be a valuable member. I have more to share about my background, but not ready yet. Been in the DU closet too long!!!!

Believe me, you are more than welcome!!!

Many disruptors are here in the last few weeks, and some of those same disruptors have been posing as slammers to newbies.

Just be yourself. Best advice ever. :)

Kidding!!! Remember a few things, One. if they ask what religion you are say Universalist Unitarian (well, that works for pagans, Like me.) Two. Agent Mike is OUR FRIEND!!! (no snarfing) 3. We are subversives, we hate Amerikah, Yadda yadda yadda. Yep, Sure we do. Plus we are hate mongers and eat our own young. Yep that's us. UMMMMMMMMM can you say NOT!!!! I love America, that is why I am fighting FOR HER!!!! Oh yeah, above all else... WELCOME TO DU!!!:hi:

:toast:

And don't worry too much about being a "valuable" member. Much of the stuff people post here is completely useless. :)

Hi, I'm new too and got into trouble for questioning some info someone posted because I'm paranoid by nature (Not big trouble just some shouting). But a lot of times my post are ignored or I lose the thread and can't find it again. It's no big deal. I've been to other boards and they are the same way. Long timers know each other and are comfortable talking to each other. It's just great to have another liberal to talk with.

You should keep your comments up as a kind of a welcome mat for newcomers.

I was trying to register for the longest time after the election and couldn't get it to work. Whats up with that?

understandably. I, also, was going nutz tying to get in, begging in fact.

:hi:

Fellow beggar here! Nice to meet ya!! I was desperate to get in, too, but people have been very nice. Thanks old-timers!!

Appreciate the welcome, and will try to remember all the advice you have given me.
:yourock:

Everything will work out fine (esp. with that nice gold star next your name).

Welcome to DU!

welcome to DU. If you are one of the good guys it will be apparent. You may get a few digs.... look at my post count, someone with about 1/20 of my time and post count here accused me of being a freeper just about 2 months ago because I was less than thrilled with Kerry.
You are not being singled out to be ignored. It takes people awhile to recognize and start answering your posts. If you want to be an annoying militant feminist and Dean supporter like me you will get lost of answers, they just might not all be very nice. :7

:pals:

Keep typing, and if you don't lose credibility by posting something inane, like spouting off FNC talking-points, or acting peculiarly - saying what right-wingers might think a Democrat might say - then you'll be just fine.

And we're traveling to Bob's Beserko Mart, on the corner of Furniture and Upholstery, near the statue of the Square Round Poet, where your car is as welcome as you are!

Did you know that these Chinchillas are entirely synthetic? Here, take this cigarette and ...

Phil Proctor is still kickin':


http://www.planetproctor.com/

Oh wait...On edit:
I got high and came back later....Thought it was a new thread. oops

Maybe now I can get my friends to get on board here. They are huge Firesign Theatre fans. Also Captain Beefheart.

I fell in love with this place when I saw the first Zappa avatar next to a Morrison one and a user name John O'Neill's Memory.

This is not exactly "Forum for Dummies"
I'd love to be able to sample the IQ here and compare it to macht frei republic site. They probably have that hooked up to Diebold too.

Uh, we proud merkins have an average IQ of 732.

No asswipes that's the number of brain cells you have left.

Edited to compensate for tragic synapse loss.

bring them to me.

If you're talking Firesign Theater! :)

I remember as a teenager, getting a free sample, 45rpm of these guys, at the record store. I (being just a few years too young to get it) gave it away ...wonder what it would fetch on ebay now...

Got hooked on FT by my Dad as a kid and was forever grateful when he burned his FT vinyl to CD for both of us!

How can you be in two places at once, when you're not anywhere at all?

I LOVE Firesign Theater!

Thanks for the link!

(I'm old, too.) :hippie:

Yes I am a newbie. Been addicted ever since the day after the election. I sat there and cried while Kerry conceded, then hit the internet googling "election fraud" and "voter fraud" until I got something that pertained to the current election. That's how I found DU... and man am I hooked. You have some great thinkers on this board!

Welcome to DU! :):hi:

I'm glad I found you, too. I have been feeling so disconnected from everyone and everything. I haven't been able to work, can't sleep, and MAN does this election stink! It makes me feel so much better to come here.

I'm the same way. A lot of my family and friends do, too. I gave them all the link to DU and described it as a "support group". What better way to heal than to know you're not alone, right?

I know just what you mean.

Welcome!

:toast:

(And we're pretty well informed, too.)

your posts are amazing. I've been trying to keep up, emailing all my like-minded friends with all the info. It truly is staggering! I can't wait till the shit truly hits the fan!

It's probably good therapy to have a place to go where everybody knows your name......

That reminds me, I gotta go hit my local for a few.

It has been GREAT therapy. I felt like slitting my wrists when the Facist In Charge gave his "victory" speech! Mandate my ass...

:hi: That thing in the white house is going to fall like Saddam's statue.

through the streets like they did Saddam's statue?

(Oh... me a bad, bad girl.) :evilgrin:

I love it welcome to DU.

He's so good with the servants, Fred.

Gee Dad, isn't that bridge built yet?

No son, and it won't be until free hands on both sides of the big ditch can press the same button at the same time!

**********************************
Ya gotta love the internet, thanks.

and Poorgy and Mudhead. Remeber Nick Danger third eye???? Out of the fog into the smog. At fourth and Drucker he turned right, At fourth and Drucker he turned left and climb the three steps to his office.

and hippie in a way thats hard to explain now. I feel lucky to catch the tail end of the 60's in my life. It ws cool. Especially the chicks with the halter tops.

I turned fifteen in 1970, what a summer. I was a million miles from home. She was a widow trying to make it on her own. she had a need to feel the Passion, feel the thunder from the sky. Our bodies entwined dripping with sweat. Then she started praying and speaking in tongue then she forgot my name and started calling me Jesus.

n/t

I actually started reading here before the election because of Bev Harris & afterward :scared: It does feel better to be some place with like minded people & I've gotten direction here for writing letters. It's all I've been doing since the election. My students are going to kill me soon.

welcome to DU :toast:
:hippie: I'm old enough to have at one time memorized most of Firesign theater.

I have been reading this thread since November 4! I live in Ohio and everyone I know voted for Kerry! My Aunt got 5 people who have never voted before to vote! With all these NEW voters how does BUSH win? Easy just make people in DEMOCRATIC areas wait in line for 3 hours or more.

This is my main question. If we can spend BILLIONS in IRAQ why can't we spend BILLIONS to reform are election?

Proposal for election reform-

1) In a year involving the Presidential Election the Election date will be considered a national holiday!

2) ALL voting machines in the US will be the EXACT SAME!! (An independent company will develop a machine that everyone understands. The company can have NO ties to ether party!)

3) PAPER TRAILS ARE required!! The voter gets a copy and a second copy printed and put into a box. The paper should have some kind of id# so you can go to the NATIONAL ELECTIONS website and enter your id#. After entering the id# it will state the time and who you voted for.

Sure this would be a huge cost but I think it would be well worth it. YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON DEMOCRACY!!!!

Good ideas. Simple but smart.

I thought the decision was made at the county level?
Most states seem to have a mix of voting types ( some machine, some paper) how is that?

so now would be a good time to find out whether or not you can pass a county level or city level ordinance getting rid of the voting machines. that's what we're looking into. :D

best. Saw them live one time and they had everyone falling out of their chairs.

Tombstones right and left. I keep tripping over the darned things. Painful. For them, not me. ;)

just some cynical people online tonight

I could swear I just saw one......oh my bad I must be too cynical tonight.:evilgrin:

Professor 2

but the threads have been deleted. Trolling is hard work. Tombstoning, not so hard. :toast:

There are lots of screams of 'troll' and 'freeper' if a member here dares express any sadness/doubt about what is going on. This thread was started right after I was ripped apart by some of the older members here...my post is the one full of tombstones that day...and my inbox was full of "f*** you" because I DARED say that I was afraid that the recounts wouldn't happen.

Just don't run with scissors.

:+

I'm probably still considered a newbie, I've been here for a few months now, I can't even remember how I found this place now!! LOL

listed a bunch of "to the Left" websites. That's how my hubby and I got here. We were lurkers for quite awhile. Me Hubby still is o'lurkin'
Lurkin' but not smirkin'

He was gone for a while.
any good stuff on his site?

If you don't drink their brand of kool-aid, they'll scream troll at you every chance they get, simply because you disagree with them.

Get used to using that Ignore button.


:hi:


:hippie:

But I noticed the same thing. Some of them try to be subtle since this is pretty heavily moderated. I am wondering about the agenda. I mean, if the voting was honest, why would they care? Because of all this, some are hard to figure out. There was one dude who was trying to talk everyone out of wanting to count New Hampshire, the reason being that it would end up being ok and everyone would lose interest in Ohio after it did. Hmmmm. He was new. It made me wonder if there really wasn't something there to be found in New Hampshire after all. We could hope. His reasoning was faulty, to my mind, so naturally I was suspicious of his post. However, some people just come by faulty reasoning naturally, if you know what I mean (and apparently some even at MIT and Caltech). I've already been welcomed in another thread, so HI and I hear ya.

at DU this week. We must have struck a nerve. There's a lot of obvious freepers that get bounced quickly. But there are some that know enough to be more subtle...and they really seem worried about the vote recount, so they try to dissuade us from it.

However, I have seen some intelligent posts by newcomers whose views aren't quite in the mainstream of DU. These are most certainly welcome. But they might be viewed skeptically because we've had so many freepers loitering here. They shouldn't take it personally.

I was really happy to find this place a few weeks ago, but couldn't sign up until a couple of days ago. A lot of people that I know are just ready to move on, they don't seem to want to fight. I'm glad there are people who do want to fight!

They want to stop the investigations and avoid any recounts. I wonder why? :eyes:

LOL! Too bad for them. We're going ahead and we're going to find the truth, whatever it may be. :toast:

I started checking out DU before the sElection, tried to join on sElection day and couldn't for several days, and just got on last night. I would be going nuts if I hadn't found DU. Where do I go to learn how to speak blog? Is there an online dictionary anywhere? Whats a freeper? What's "kick"? What's n/t?
Sorry to be so annoying. You can haze me about it.:argh:

then I couldn't remember my password, so I was going insane. This was my only source of sanity. I even called my sister who I no longer was speaking to. Then, I was sent a new password, ahhhh.

are right here.

http://dug.seattleactivist.org/

:hi:

Hi Crispini,
Thanks for the link. I hate it when I can't understand a language everyone is speaking around me. :dunce:

even disruptors are inadverdantly infected with a good idea or two. I like it when someone pisses someone else off unntentionally just because of an omitted comma or some linguistic misunderstanding.

nerve to post. Its a nice escape from these Orwellian times.

now all of us newbies are feeling "duh!" becaue we're new. Ya' gotta start somewhere....Sheez, cut us greens some slack.

Indiana, eh? Any news on a possible re-vote or re-count there? I read about the straight Dem ticket votes going to the Libertarians. I can't say I'm all that shocked after all the revelations in other states. Do you know what kind of machines are used there?

I am so glad that so many people are concerned enough about the questionable election to join us after said election. It's a good sign that people are staying involved.

One day George W. and Dick Cheney walk into a diner. A waitress walks up to them and asks if she can take their order. W. leans close to her and says,
"Honey, can I have a quickie?"

The waitress is appalled and yells at the president about women's rights and then storms away, Cheney then says to W., "It's pronounced quiche."
:7

Do you know what W stands for? Worthless

* is not considered the pResident on democratic websites.

Welcome to DU

Although I have a low post count I've been here since
fall of 2001 when I finally got a computer.






"Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living"
Mother Jones

Sometimes we have nothing to say other times we have plenty to say.

:hi:

anyway, maybe nick danger could sort out this fraud mess. or audry farber, or betty jo bioloski, or melanie haber, or perhaps even nancy...

Did you ever think for just a minute that alot of these 'newbies' have maybe lurked since the primaries (or before), or saw the reference to DU in this week's TIME magazine, or are just plain old flabbegasted liberals/Dems looking for someplace to regroup ??

There WAS a national election 2 weeks ago, right ?

Politics IS on alot of people's minds, right ?

Why must every newcomer automatically be considered a troll ??
What gives any ONE of us the carte blanche to call someone out ?????

That's such a GOP tactic:! "Boo! We don't know you ! You must be the enemy here to do harm!! Go Away !"

I really and truly thought liberals were bigger than that.

Sigh.


:hippie: