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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-04 11:19 PM Original message |
In hindsight Dean could have won... |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-04 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yeah, but everybody jumped on that stupid |
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seg4527 (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-04 11:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. i wasn't on it either |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 02:08 AM Response to Reply #1 |
28. I agree but because he wouldn't have quit. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-04 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. I supported Dean in the caucuses but I don't think we can honestly |
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countmyvote4real (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 12:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Interesting hindsight conversation re Kerry in NYC… |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-04 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. I didn't like Dean but he wouldn't have quit on us like Kerry did |
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AmyCrat (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-04 11:53 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Dean was my guy from the get-go |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 01:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. If Kerry doesn't want the Presidency, I wonder if we can sub in Edwards |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
6. That must have been why... |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 02:17 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. rove took dean down in the primary. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 02:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. You said absolutely nothing about the polls. |
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WhoWantsToBeOccupied (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 02:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. "The margin of fraud" |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 11:49 PM Response to Reply #48 |
60. If Dean had energized people. |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #6 |
36. Oh, the irony |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
7. PLEASE KILL THIS THREAD!!! |
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AmyCrat (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 12:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Why toxic? Just cause I liked Dean doesn't mean I can't support Kerry n/t |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 12:46 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. True |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 02:59 AM Response to Reply #8 |
33. No, it doesn't... |
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illuminaughty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-04 01:58 AM Response to Reply #33 |
64. I agree |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 10:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
37. True |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 01:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. If Kerry gets the message, they'll probably stop.People are angry he quit |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
11. Kerry lost no votes by not being anti-war and an anti-war candidate |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 10:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
39. A BIG caveat to your assumption |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Kerry got a record number of votes for a Democrat. I highly doubt that the |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Okay |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 01:02 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Well, if nobody has a better argument... |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. I do. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Demcorats registered more new voters than Republicans. I doubt that there |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-04 01:36 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. I disagree. Dean would have brought more new voters to the polls. |
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angrydemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 03:57 AM Response to Reply #61 |
88. That Is Pure BS To Say Dean ......... |
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St. Jarvitude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
12. Jesus Christ himself could not have won this election |
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lilfroggy (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 01:35 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. lol |
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newyawker99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 07:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
59. Hi lilfroggy!! |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 01:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Jesus wouldn't have conceded |
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St. Jarvitude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 02:02 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Jesus would forgive the Pukes, and then fight them. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
44. So scarily true. |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
51. The miracle of the loaves, the fishes and the Diebold tabulators |
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jhgatiss (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-04 12:43 AM Response to Reply #12 |
76. This is hillarious.... |
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lilfroggy (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
13. Dean wouldnt win |
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genius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 01:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. The Swift Boat vets wouldn't have come after Dean |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 01:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. They would have had Aspen Ski Bums for Truth instead talking about how |
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AmyCrat (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 01:59 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Aspin Ski Bums for Truth?? -- That cracks me up!!! LOL n/t |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 02:07 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. As for Dean calling the shots... |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 01:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. There was enough anti-war sentiment that Dean could have won, |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 01:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. The more people thought about the war, the less votes Dems were going... |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 01:57 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. "Dean didn't say much at all about anything but war"???? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 02:00 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. His persona was that of an anti-war candidate. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 10:04 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. The MEDIA made him the "anti-war candidate", that wasn't his only message. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 11:10 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. And it's not good to run candidates who are so out of control of their own |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 02:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. I couldn't agree less. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Dean himself said that the media representation of him wasn't the image |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Two things come to mind about Kerry during the election: |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Dean would have big problems with both. Aspen Ski Bums for Truth. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-04 01:49 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Vietnam was only an issue because Kerry MADE it an issue. |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-04 04:21 PM Response to Reply #53 |
81. Talk about mixed messages! |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-04 04:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
80. What do you call the candidate who depends on new voters? |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 10:34 AM Response to Reply #18 |
40. "Dean had a consistent position on the war." |
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ever_green (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
26. not just hindsight, I could see it before & apparently so could the enemy |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 02:09 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I think the Republicans wanted Dean in the GE. RW media give him so much |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
30. oh come on. kerry won. |
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MIMIC (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
34. If Kerry chose Dean has his running mate |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. The running mate issue |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 03:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. Agreed. Dean wouldn't have added to a Kerry ticket. |
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tngledwebb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
38. In hindsight the corpse of J. Edgar Hoover or a pile of stale dog doo |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
50. I'm starting to agree. |
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Guava Jelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
52. noone would have won the fix was in |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-12-04 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
57. it really pisses people off when you say nice things about Dean |
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GuardingVirginia (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-04 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
63. Dean vs. E-voting machines |
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Gnscih (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-04 02:39 AM Response to Original message |
65. Dean and Growth |
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ever_green (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-04 03:22 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. I totally agree |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-04 07:37 AM Response to Reply #65 |
70. I agree that the GOP wanted Dean out--so did the DNC |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-04 03:13 AM Response to Original message |
66. Sadly, you are incorrect |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-04 03:17 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Oh, O.K., that convinced me... |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Good! Glad to be of help because |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-04 03:02 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I'm glad some people have a healthy fantasy life. |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-04 07:12 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Iowa? New Hampshire? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-04 09:43 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. You're, of course, entitled to your opinion... |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-04 10:32 AM Response to Reply #74 |
78. The proposal of the thread is Dean would have won. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Yes, and I agree with that statement... |
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UpsideDownFlag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-13-04 03:57 AM Response to Original message |
69. depends on if you ask the electorate, or Diebold. nt |
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candy331 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-14-04 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
75. Is this a flame thrower topic? If it is or if not the heading is true. I |
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jhgatiss (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-04 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
77. I'm not so sure that Dean could have won... |
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hippiegranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-04 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
82. ANYBODY could have won - |
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googly (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-04 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
83. Dean was definately more electable than Kerry..here is why |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Oh, please. Do you work for FOXNews? |
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googly (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-04 05:04 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Since Kerry has never held an "executive" position, how could |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-04 05:37 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Here's where you're wrong. |
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JOEMENTUMSUCKS (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-15-04 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
85. What about Joementum |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 07:06 AM Response to Original message |
89. My belief has always been.... |
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BlueInRed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-16-04 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
90. until Dean attacked big media, he had a shot |
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