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sandboxface Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:50 PM
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93,000? Need clairfication on Ohio numbers...
There are two sets of number I have found. Not sure


93,000 extra votes in Cuyahoga County

and then Olbermann mentioned this on his show:

92,000 votes did not count. Some were improperly cast and other improperly counted.


I'm confused. I read all about the extra votes, but what's up with Obermann's statement?
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AmericanGreatness Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:52 PM
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1. It's time to forget all this 'conspiracy' stuff
Im telling you if we keep this stuff up every election, it will come back to bite us.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:53 PM
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Yeah?
Well, bite me, too.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:53 PM
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3. Yeah?
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 11:53 PM by murielm99
dupe
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SoCalDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:55 PM
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5. Sure lets just not bother counting votes

While we're at it, lets rename this country to the Banana Republic of America.
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skylarmae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:56 PM
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6. oh please, I beg to differ and if I'm wrong, our democracy is gone
anyway so what the fuck....? just saying...
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:52 PM
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2. I had heard 93,000 punch card ballots were not counted because no
vote for Pres was recorded. Remember when they ran these back through the machines in Florida, some of the loose chads fell out so they counted. They have provisions for analyzing hanging or pregnant chads in Ohio.
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-04 11:54 PM
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4. Spoilage
Edited on Thu Nov-11-04 11:56 PM by laheina
Cunning secretary of states and voting officials can make criteria to disqualify votes. Also, the machines (supposedly) didn't register a lot of votes properly.

See blackboxvoting.org for Bev Harris's book. It includes a chapter on methods of cheating.
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For PaisAn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-04 12:02 AM
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7. It was 97549 extra votes to be exact
It seems the Cuyahoga elections people later said this was from absentee ballots being allocated in a certain way? It still doesn't seem to make sense, how can there be more votes than people registered in any district but
Here's the latest update and some sort of convoluted explanation:

http://pages.ivillage.com/americans4america/id20.html
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