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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 12:34 PM
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I'm off to see the commissioners! The Wonderful Commissioners of My Town.
Let's hope. I am just 2 hours shy of talking with 2 out of 3 of my County Commissioners about electronic voting and why Indiana's 58 out of 92 counties with DRE's without VVPBs (including mine!) cannot provide for secure and accurate elections.

I am taking friends with me:

The Common Cause Report - "Malfunction and Malfeasance: A Report on the Electronic Voting Machine Debacle"
http://www.commoncause.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&b=194883&ct=2676319

The Brennan Justice Report - "The Machinery of Democracy: Protecting Elections in an Electronic World"
http://www.brennancenter.org/presscenter/releases_2006/pressrelease_2006_0627.html

A whole bunch of VotersUnite! documents that show how badly our elections are going... http://www.votersunite.org
Vote-Switching Provided by Vendors
US Map of Electronic Voting Problems for 2004
Myth Breakers: Facts about Electronic Elections
14-page picture-full description of electronic voting problems
Election control

I will report back when I am done!

Please send GOOD VIBES!
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:00 PM
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1. Good luck!
I hope you can convince them to see the truth. Sending positive vibes your way. :)
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 01:09 PM
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2. Don't forget that the League of Women Voters have called
for paper print-outs and audits for all elections.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:32 PM
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3. Well, that was a "3" on a scale of 0 to 10...
They listened. They seemed surprised at much of the information I was presenting - about malfunctions & malfeasance in the past. They seemed amenable to precinct-based optical scan with audits and said that I needed to go talk to the election supervisor and to my State representative and Senator. My state House and Senate are deep, deep red. What are the chances? :eyes:

I learned a bit - they say that what they have heard from people is that they like the electronic voting. And, of course, it is much easier than hand counts.

Also, apparently, 16,000 people voted in both New York and Florida in the 2000 Election. Anyone have any information about that comment or the debunking of that comment?

:(

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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:48 PM
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4. 16,000?
You should have asked them for proof of those 16,000.

Good going, IndyOp, education of our closest representatives is the best way to get a foot thru the door. They start talking and pretty soon, like my state, they start passing laws to keep the vote stealing jerks at bay.

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:26 PM
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5. My state already has Voter ID law... is that what you mean? (nt)
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:30 PM
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6. No
What I meant was: they threw out the 16,000 number and you should have asked them for the proof.

I oppose most any voter ID law. If someone wants to break the law that way, no voter ID law will stop them. Most voter ID laws keep procrastinators from voting, and most are probably liberals, eh? lol
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 06:27 PM
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7. This is the part I didn't initially understand:
"They start talking and pretty soon, like my state, they start passing laws to keep the vote stealing jerks at bay."

I am now betting that the 16,000 number came up a whole lot - at least at private Republican meetings - before the Voter ID law was passed.

I did ask him for a reference and he could not think of it off the top of his head - he is an older man and was not warned in advance that I had a question about the issue, so I do not doubt that it was a memory blank. I will follow up to ask him for the documentation...

Thanks for the encouragement.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 11:18 PM
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8. .
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