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Columbus Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:18 AM
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Cliff Arnebeck Lawsuit Letter To Ken Blackwell
From http://www.OhioHonestElections.org

The letter can be found in full at
http://www.ohiohonestelections.org/fcms_data/files/Document%20hold%20notice%20to%20SOS.doc

Now we know why Blackwell lawyered up with Destro. Can you imagine what Blackwell did when he received this letter?



Dear Mr. Blackwell:

We represent several individuals and public interest groups who intend to file an action in Federal District Court in the Southern District of Ohio alleging that you, in your official capacity as Ohio Secretary of State, violated the United States Constitution and federal and state law by, inter alia, inequitably distributing voting resources, suppressing votes, and spoiling ballots. That action will seek declaratory and injunctive relief.

In connection with this action we intend to file, it is vital that you, in your capacity as Ohio Secretary of State and the state official in charge of elections in Ohio, preserve all ballots, however recorded or maintained, from the November 2, 2004 election. Most importantly, we have received extremely disconcerting reports that unused ballots, which under Ohio law are required to be preserved along with used ballots, are being destroyed. These unused ballots relate directly to plaintiffs’ allegations that punch card ballots were “pre-punched,” thereby creating an overvote condition if the voter also voted for Senator John Kerry. Therefore, it is imperative that all evidence, as itemized below in part, be preserved pending the filing of this action. Specifically, “ballots” shall include, but not be limited to, (1) unused ballots, and (2) ballots cast in any manner by any person in the November 2, 2004 election, for any office or candidate, whether cast by a machine, absentee ballot, or via any other manner.

Electronic records of ballots must be maintained, as well. In addition, you must preserve all documents related to the issues in this litigation, including but not limited to, all documents (whether maintained in hardcopy or electronic form) relating to:
• How voting machines and voting resources were allocated to voting districts;
• The decisions made by Ohio concerning the November 2, 2004 election;
• All claims or allegations of voter fraud, vote tampering, or restrictions upon or violations of Ohio citizens’ right to vote (regardless of whether the allegations were made by Ohio, citizens of Ohio, or third parties);
• The results of the November 2, 2004 election and how those results were tabulated;
• Ohio’s recount of the November 2, 2004 results; and
• The programming of Ohio’s voting machines that electronically recorded votes.

These documents must be preserved by you as well as by the 88 voting districts in Ohio, which are being copied on this letter.

Do not discard, destroy, or alter in any way any of the documents described above. Failure to preserve these materials will severely prejudice plaintiffs in their lawsuit, and could result in the imposition of harsh penalties and sanctions on you.

Please confirm to us, within three business days of your receipt of this letter, whether you intend to retain these documents, so that in the event you do not intend to preserve these documents, we may seek immediate relief from the Court. In any event, cease and desist from the destruction of any evidence until either we have reached an agreement on this issue or the Court has had an opportunity to rule on this issue.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:30 AM
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1. K & R
*shadow government*
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:24 AM
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2. K&R!! n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:52 AM
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3. Kick & Recomend
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 06:17 AM
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4. K & R !!!
Great work, Cliff...you and associates are heroes!
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 06:19 AM
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5. Heard on Air America that a new agency (I didn't catch the name)
Has analyzed some of the Ohio ballots and there is some very serious evidence of vote rigging. Listen to the Rachel Maddow show for details.
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IthinkThereforeIAM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 06:19 AM
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6. Interesting timing...

... don't you think? :kick:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 07:52 AM
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7. The timing allowed them to get as much information as possible (they
have been going into county BOEs (and finding anomalies) before the ballots are to be destroyed.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 09:28 AM
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8. Hallelujah! What a wonderful read. Thanks for this post. nm
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 11:43 AM
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9. K&R.(nt)
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 12:07 PM
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10. now who hired Arnebeck, again?
Seems to me it was the Kerry/Edwards campaign. Now what was all that stuff about "Kerry gave up, Kerry abandoned us?"

Kerry and Edwards are putting their energies into something that is actually going to do some good for voting integrity in this country. And it may very well end the political career of one Mr. Blackwell.
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Columbus Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 12:18 PM
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11. You are misinformed

Cliff Arnebeck never worked for Kerry/Edwards. Kerry/Edwards, at best, ignored people like Cliff Arnebeck.

You are right that this does not help Blackwell.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:33 PM
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21. Cliff has been working on this since Nov. 3, 2004.
I believe he is an attorney with Common Cause....he was back then.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 12:58 PM
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15. I work with these guys and I will tell you K/E had NOTHING to do with it.
In fact, if anything the Democratic Party do not want this to be re-lived. (while us progressive Dems in search of the truth do)
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Febble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 03:50 AM
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27. Kerry-Edwards counsel
was Daniel J Hoffheimer.

http://www.taftlaw.com/home/
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 12:25 PM
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12. Wow - pre-punched for * to create overvote...
This, in my humble opinion should be all over the news, too -
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 12:27 PM
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13. Cliff Arnebeck has my admiration!!!
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 12:35 PM
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14. Oh yeah... nearly forgot... another 'Recommend'!!!!
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:56 PM
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16. Outstanding
It has been a long wait and this is wonderful news. K&R!

:kick:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 05:13 PM
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17. Go Cliff! Truth is our most powerful weapon.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:33 PM
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18. blackwell was and is guilty of electoral treason. When the truth is
revealed, his complicity in the theft of election 2004 will be apparent to ALL parties. The man deserves a prison cell, not the Governor's Mansion.
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 08:56 PM
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19. I never thought of that.....prepunching Bush or third party.
So when they voted for Kerry it was an overvote. Evil bastards.

How many overvotes were there in Ohio?
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:25 AM
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28. a total of over 95,000 overvotes or undervotes
according to the DNC Voting Rights Institute's database of precinct-level returns -- 1.7% of presidential votes counted. The standard election reports don't distinguish between undervotes and overvotes. Punch cards of course are known to lend themselves to undervotes -- but it is also very easy to prepunch a bunch of them at once. (Some of those votes would owe to "caterpillar crawl" -- people who attempted to vote for Kerry, or someone else, in one precinct, but their votes were counted as attempted votes for Nader in a different precinct, and therefore disqualified.)

Most precincts had ten or fewer residual votes, so the numbers don't necessarily scream deliberate fraud -- but apparently some of the ballots do. There's no substitute for actually looking at ballots.
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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:01 PM
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20. BRAVO!!!
*standing ovation*
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:34 PM
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22. What a great read that was!
The implications are big.
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BillORightsMan Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 10:51 PM
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23. Answers!
Arnebeck is just in time, right before the deadline kicks in for ballots from Nov 2, 2004 to be destroyed.

Then there's THIS!

PBS NOW 9.1.06 at WVIZ CH-25


http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/235/voting-rules.html">Block the Vote


In his 2006 book "Stealing Democracy," Spencer Overton illustrates historical and current flaws related to America's voting system, including an overview of most states. Check the status of your home state below.
.
.
.
Ohio

  • 2004: Voters at the polls wait in for as long as 5 hours due to large voter turnout and too few voting machines.
  • 2004: In Franklin County, 102,000 new voters were added to the registration rolls, but because too few voting machines are provided, there are 170 voters per machine and up to a five-hour wait to cast a ballot.
  • 2004: Four years after Florida's hanging-chad fiasco, only 13.1 percent of American voters use punch-card machines, but more than 70 percent of Ohio voters use such machines.
  • 2004: Ohio punch-card machines produce more than 76,000 spoiled ballots in the November presidential election (a smaller number than President Bush's 118,600-vote margin of victory over Senator Kerry).
  • 2004: A federal court in Ohio found that during the 2004 presidential election, Republicans deployed their poll monitors so that only 14 percent of new voters in predominantly white precincts would face a Republican challenger, while fully 97 percent of new voters in African-American precincts would face one.
  • 2002 and 2004: A statewide survey found four instances of ineligible persons voting or attempting to vote in 2002 and 2004, out of 9,078,728 votes cast - a rate of 0.00004%. (Good thing they mandated showing ID to vote, eh? :grr: -Ed.)


Still no word from my Dem Central Committee on what to do OR what THEY are doing to combat HB3:banghead:

imbillorightsmanandiapprovethismessage


Columbus, I just posted the Forbes story at the DU-OH board. I'll link to this below my post for ya! My pleasure!:woohoo:
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LeahD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:46 AM
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24. Wonderful, simply wonderful!
Thank you to all of those who have been working on this for years!

K & R!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 01:13 AM
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25. K&R Real hard. Arnebeck rocks!!!!!!! Thanks Cliff n/t
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 02:52 AM
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26. ModMom, pass around some hugs from me, okay?
You know where they go. And get someone to hug you (from me), too.

What a long haul! And I know there's still more to haul!

Today I've had that Gandhi quote on my mind:

"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win."

They seem to be fighting us more lately, don't you think?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:37 AM
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29. Will do. Here is an article with a familar name for you:
New lawsuit alleges ballot tampering in 2004 election
Group says ballots in Democratic precincts were pre-punched, negating Kerry votes
Friday, September 01, 2006
Jim Siegel
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH


A coalition of critics of the 2004 election is insisting it has uncovered new evidence of ballot tampering in Ohio that caused a number of John Kerry’s votes to get tossed out.

The group filed a federal civilrights lawsuit yesterday, asking U.S. District Judge Algenon L. Marbley to declare that Ohioans’ voting rights were violated in 2004 and to appoint a special master to ensure fairness in the 2006 election.

The lawsuit alleges that Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell and others conspired to deprive Ohioans of their right to vote. Prior election-related lawsuits by those affiliated with the coalition have been dismissed by various judges.

Richard Hayes Phillips, a Canton, N.Y., resident working with groups such as the Ohio Honest Elections Campaign, said he has examined thousands of punch-card ballots cast in heavily Democratic inner-city precinct.



<SNIP>

http://www.ohioelects.com/?story=dispatch/2006/09/01/20060901-E3-00.html
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:06 PM
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31. Thank you for the link. What's a special master? And if anyone
is fooled by anything Blackwell is quoted as saying there, speak up! We'll give you some context.

I guess those 93,000 voters whose presidential votes weren't counted can relax (!) because it was "fewer than in 2000 and less than President Bush’s margin of victory." Unless maybe you combine it with the votes that were cast but counted for another candidate, the ballot stuffing, and the disenfranchisement. Clearly it's way over Bush's claimed margin of victory. We've known that for nearly 22 months but haven't had the evidence until now, because they denied access. Hmph.
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:07 PM
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32. P.S.
Blackwell "said he is willing to ask the boards not to destroy ballots, but the decision ultimately is a local one." WTF? That's not how it's been reported. Sounds like he's trying to look good for voters but has ordered the BOEs to destroy anyway. Are the courts going to stop them?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:05 PM
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30. Go get this bastard, Cliff.
:kick:
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