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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 09:14 AM
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US Attorneys: Asleep at the Switch. How about ELECTION FRAUD? ERD News 2 April
Edited on Mon Apr-02-07 09:24 AM by autorank
Election Research and Discussion Forum News, April 2, 2007
(1) Weekly Comment below or HERE
(2) Links of GREAT media stories HERE


U.S. Attorneys: Asleep at the Switch

How About Election Fraud?



Michael Collins
Washington, DC
April 2, 2007

The sacked eight, as we’ll call the fired federal prosecutors, are a hot topic nationwide. Their inauspicious Dec. 7, 2006 firing became a major controversy when New Mexico U.S. Attorney David Iglesias caused a furor by actually objecting to his firing. It seems his former sponsor for that position, the intense Senator Pete Domenici, (R-NM) had called attorney Iglesias and implied (as in insisted) that that he prosecute some Democrats before the election.


Senator Domenici is not amused.

Why? We can only guess but as things look now, the prosecutions would have benefited Domenici’s heir apparent, Cong. Heather Wilson, (R-NM). Seems Heather was in a fix. She’d been accused of sequestering a file that New Mexico Department of Children, Youth and Families had on her husband. There was bad publicity with the implication of nepotism (Wilson was head of the department at the time).

This meant that her tight race was going to be even tighter. Democratic challenger Patricia Madrid had any number of things going for her: a comfortable lead in the polls, the support of a popular governor, and high name recognition. Heather couldn’t count on the same breaks got from the state’s voting machines in 2004. This was a real fight.

Wilson won which by just under 900 votes. This raises some questions. First, what if Iglesias had charged the two Democrats Domenici fingered? Would the Wilson margin have been greater? Second, were there any election irregularities or machine malfunctions worth looking into? That’s a pretty tight margin for a race with over 210 thousand votes. Madrid’s pre election polling alone should have triggered at least a look see. In the late breaking polls, Madrid lead Wilson 53% to 46%. Was there a Wilson surge or could it be…


Heather’s Happy

There was controversy in 2004 in New Mexico. Greg Palast investigated and found thousands turned away from voting due to restrictive voter identification laws (just the type encouraged by the “voter fraud” prevention program). He also noted:

Last year, I flew to New Mexico to investigate the 33,981 cast but not counted ballots of that state in the 2004 race. George Bush "won" New Mexico by 5,988 votes. Or did he? I calculated that, of the all the ballots rejected and "spoiled," 89% were cast by voters of color. Who won New Mexico? Kerry won--or he would have, if they had counted the ballots.

U.S. Attorney Iglesias didn’t do much prosecuting for “voter fraud” in 2004, nor did he do much election fraud investigating and prosecuting either. Voter fraud occurred at a rate of 24 cases between 2002 and 2005, impacting an immeasurably small fraction of the vote. U.S. Attorney’s, some even trained by Iglesias, spend a lot of time studying this super microscopic fictional crime wave, legitimizing it. They spend exactly no time studying and investigating “election fraud,” the theft of hundreds of thousands of votes.

Sounds like there was something very wrong in 2004? And not just in New Mexico. Any Problems in 2006? Lets Ask the U.S. Attorneys.

To my knowledge, there has been no federal investigation by any official body into election fraud in the 2004 election. An Ohio special prosecutor convicted Cuyahoga County election workers of rigging the 2004 recount, however. With all the talk of how abused the U.S. Attorneys are, which of them looked into any of these incidents ripe for investigation:

Investigating Election Fraud A Ground Breaking Study Attorney Paul Lehto was a poll watcher in 2004, Snohomish County, Washington State. This detailed and empirically based report shows a multitude of potential to outright manipulations mostly favoring Bush. Did a U.S. Attorney every look into this? Did a U.S. Attorney ever read it?

The Conyers Report, Ohio 2004: Preserving Democracy Cong. John Conyers, (R-MI) did his own investigation of the Ohio 2004 race right after the election. He was the ranking minority member but got no support form the Republican Chairman, now convicted Cong. Robert Ney, (R-OH). Conyers documented the likely loss of tens of thousands of votes in Ohio due to election policies that suppressed the minority vote. Did a U.S. Attorney every look into this? Did a U.S. Attorney ever read it?

The Declaration or Richard Hayes Phillips documented numerous incidents of lost Kerry votes by examining actual ballots. James Q. Jacobs documents how Kerry votes were switched to Bush in a detailed analysis. Michael Keefer wrote a detailed summary of the various forms of election fraud and voter suppression in Ohio, The Strange Death of American Democracy. End Game in Ohio. Did a U.S. Attorney every look into any of this? Did a U.S. Attorney ever read these articles?

Ron Baiman, TruthIsAll, Steve Freeman, and Jonathan Simon all produced extensive statistical studies which repeatedly showed problems with the over all vote count.

Project Censored chose stolen election 2004 as one of the most important stories not covered by the corporate media. Any U.S. Attorneys out there buy the best selling book of the same name?

In Ohio’s 2006 election, award winning investigative reporter, attorney and activist Bob Fitrakis unearthed problem after problem, including obvious missing votes. To date, from what we know about the 2006 midterm elections nationwide, there were over 200 press stories alone and a likely tens of thousands of voters who experienced e-voting machine irregularities of all types, including vote switching, The Election Defense Alliance published a detailed report Major Miscount in 2006 Election: Were 3 Million Votes "Misplaced"? This was confirmed by http://tinyurl.com/2pbar9">TruthIsAll in his own exhaustive analysis which also found likely missing votes in the millions.

Did a U.S. Attorney every look into this 2006 evidence of election fraud? Did a U.S. Attorney ever read it?

Preoccupied with the fiction of “voter fraud” at a rate of six to eight cases a year, U.S. Attorneys participated in a grand fiction that not only enabled restrictive voter identification laws and other forms of voter suppression, they apparently ignored citizen generated primary and analytic evidence of election fraud in 2004 and 2006.

Is this any way to handle voting rights?

END


Permission to reprint with a link to the article in “Scoop” and attribution of authorship.

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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 09:20 AM
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1. You have enhanced my "Moonday" morning tremendously
by assuring me that "Heather's happy." I was deeply concerned about her and am now greatly relieved.

/sarcasm

K & R'd pal
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 09:26 AM
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2. She's a peach!
:hi:
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 09:35 AM
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3. with a heart like a pitt ya mean ?
and life is a beach too !!!
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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 02:56 PM
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10. with reference to the pic of Al Gore - are you implementing the law of
attraction? will Al run if we all put him in our posts??:bounce:
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Blue Meany Donating Member (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:28 AM
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4. There appears to have been partisan bias across the board...
If you look at where the DOJ sent election monitors in 2004 they seem to have been largely targetted to aid Republicans voter-suppression efforts by targetting minority voting areas (particular Native Americans and African Americans). At the same time, they seem to have avoided tight races without distinct minority communities, where Republican fraud might be uncovered. There were some exceptions from the Civil Rights section of DOJ, where previous consent degrees had to be enforced, but the DOJ monitors seem to have done little to protect voters in these instances. On one Indian reservation in New Mexico, for example, the voting booths were shut down all day during the 2004 election to honor a religious holiday. The three federal observers did nothing about it and, so far as I know, there was never any legal redress for this. If you look at the counties across the New Mexico where monitors were sent, they were almost all heavily in Democratic counties and/or they were in counties that had higher than average Native or Black populations. That could be a conicidence, but I doubt it. I expect that you would find a distinct statistical trend if you looked at this nationally.

Then, too, there were prosecutions of ACORN voter-registration workers who either forged signatures or registered people more than one time. But the well-documented registration-related crimes committed by Nathan Sproul's companies for Republicans in New Mexico, Nevada, Pennsylvania and elsewhere went unprosecuted--even when this involved the destruction of Democratic registration forms, as it did in Nevada. In the latter case, one of the voters came forward in court with a stub from one of the destroyed forms and there were eye-witness accounts. But I guess that is not the kind of "voter fraud" the DOJ was concerned with.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 01:15 PM
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9. The Chief of the Voting Section in the DOJ's Civil Rights Div finally finds a conscience


Bush's long history of tilting Justice

The administration began skewing federal law enforcement before the current U.S. attorney scandal, says a former Department of Justice lawyer.
By Joseph D. Rich, JOSEPH D. RICH was chief of the voting section in the Justice Department's civil right division from 1999 to 2005. He now works for the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law.
March 29, 2007









THE SCANDAL unfolding around the firing of eight U.S. attorneys compels the conclusion that the Bush administration has rewarded loyalty over all else. A destructive pattern of partisan political actions at the Justice Department started long before this incident, however, as those of us who worked in its civil rights division can attest.

I spent more than 35 years in the department enforcing federal civil rights laws — particularly voting rights. Before leaving in 2005, I worked for attorneys general with dramatically different political philosophies — from John Mitchell to Ed Meese to Janet Reno. Regardless of the administration, the political appointees had respect for the experience and judgment of longtime civil servants.

Under the Bush administration, however, all that changed. Over the last six years, this Justice Department has ignored the advice of its staff and skewed aspects of law enforcement in ways that clearly were intended to influence the outcome of elections.

It has notably shirked its legal responsibility to protect voting rights. From 2001 to 2006, no voting discrimination cases were brought on behalf of African American or Native American voters. U.S. attorneys were told instead to give priority to voter fraud cases, which, when coupled with the strong support for voter ID laws, indicated an intent to depress voter turnout in minority and poor communities.


http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-rich29mar29,0,3371050.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:38 AM
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5. Asleep at the switch-or something else more nefarious?
Edited on Mon Apr-02-07 10:44 AM by mod mom
SORRY, BUT I AM GOING TO KEEP REPEATING THIS POST UNTIL SOMEONE STARTS ISSUING SUBPOENAS IN OHIO OVER THE '04 ELECTION THE THE ROLE THE NOES PLAYED:

US Attorney Interference and the '04 OH Election

We know the GOP went to all lengths to suppress the Dem vote in Ohio. How far were they willing to go? Were they willing to use justice appointees to postpone a major story on GOP corruption? We are hearing stories of USAs who were fired for NOT using their powers to help win elections, but not the reports to those USAs who were willing. I believe their needs to be some subpoenas issues regarding the postponement of the Noe (Coingate) GOP Scandal.

Seems like Rep Conyers and Rep Kaptur had concerns about a Ohio US Attorney. In a letter in August of 2005 (link at bottom) to AG Gonzales, they write this regarding the Noe investigation:

OF SPECIAL INTEREST NOTE THESE PARAGRAPHS:

"As a matter of fact, the numerous delays in the investigation have already raised the specter of political favoritism. From documents that have been made public, we know that the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Ohio, Gregory White, who is leading the federal investigation, had prior knowledge of the losses before the 2004 presidential election, as did the Governor of Ohio and other officials.16 At the same time, no investigation was initiated on these matters until spring of this year.17

The fact pattern present in this case, particularly with the new disclosure that the lead federal prosecutor may well have gotten his job as a result of a political appeal by Governor Taft's office to Karl Rove, make it abundantly clear that a special counsel is necessitated. We urge you to make such a designation immediately to help restore public trust in this very important investigation. "

That letter came after a early July 2005 letter from Rep Conyers to OH US Attorney Gregory White:

Dear Mr. White,

I write to you because of my very serious concerns regarding the manner in which your office has handled the investigation into alleged federal campaign finance violations involving the 2004 Bush-Cheney campaign and other Republican candidates. In particular, I am concerned that your office delayed investigating this very serious matter until after the 2004 presidential election and as a result prejudiced the government's ability to pursue justice in the case.

It is my understanding that on October 13, 2004, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Northern District of Ohio was provided evidence from Lucas County grand jury proceedings suggesting extensive federal campaign finance violations took place involving Tom Noe, the leading Bush-Cheney campaign official in the region for the 2004 campaign. On the same day, it was reported that your office shared this information with the Justice Department's Public Integrity Section, and that later that day, the Section e-mailed to the U.S. Attorney's Office authorization to investigate the matter. Two days later, on October 15, it was reported that the local prosecutor's office gave their evidence to the FBI.

It has been further reported by the Toledo Blade that you began your investigation into the case around early March 2005. Subsequent news reports stated that federal grand jury proceedings occurred on June 1, 2005, well after the presidential election and approximately seven-and-one half months after the Department was notified of the potential violations.

If this series of events is accurate, the delay may have violated federal guidelines as well as bar rules of professional conduct requiring impartiality and promptness in criminal investigations. First, federal law directs that each United States Attorney "shall prosecute for all offenses against the United States." The U.S. Attorneys' Manual reiterates this requirement and further explains that "their professional abilities and the need for their impartiality in administering justice directly affect the public's perception of federal law enforcement." While I am well aware that the principle of prosecutorial discretion grants your office latitude in determining which cases warrant prosecution, that doctrine in no way permits political considerations—including the fact of a high profile and closely contested election—to intrude on the prosecutorial process....

-snip
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/govt_docs...


Lucas County, OH Prosecutor Julia Bates presented US Attorney Gregory White with evidence on Tom Noe on October 13, 2004 (22 days before the November 2, 2004 Presidential Election). Ms Bates, who is a Democrat, was up for re-election (although un-opposed in 2004). Is it coincidental that the Lucas County Democratic Headquarters was burglarized on October 11, 2004?


Article published Tuesday, October 12, 2004

Lucas County Democratic headquarters burglarized

BLADE STAFF

The Lucas County Democratic Headquarters was burglarized overnight, and three computers, including the party’s main system, were stolen.

The computers contained highly sensitive information, including the party’s financial information, names and personal phone numbers of hundreds of party members, candidates, and volunteers.

The computers also stored e-mails from candidates that included discussion about campaign strategy.

A second computer, belonging to an attorney-volunteer working to ensure voters’ rights, also was taken, officials said. The headquarters on 1817 Madison Avenue does have an alarm system that volunteers believed they set late Monday when they left.

However, it apparently wasn’t tripped during the night. Workers arriving about 7:30 a.m. yesterday noticed the back window had been shattered and called police.
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...



Finally, is there a connection with this interference and the fact that Tom Noe's wife Bernadette Noe was Chair of the Lucas County BOE, (Lucas County is a Democratic stronghold) a county that incurred so many issues that OH SOS was forced to issue this report on the county after the '04 election:


OH SOS Investigation of the Lucas County BOE after 2004 Election

includes the fact that REPUBLICAN VOLUNTEERS were allowed UNSUPERVISED ACCESS to UNSECURED BALLOTS prior to the election, as well as this list:

*failure to maintain ballot security
*Inability to implement and maintain a trackable system for voter ballot reconciliation .
*failure to prepare and develop a plan for the processing of the voluminous amount of voter registration forms received.
*issuance and acceptance of incorrect absentee ballot forms.
*manipulation of the process involving the 3% recount.
*disjointed implementation of the Directive regarding the removal of Nader and Camejo from the ballot .
*failure to properly issue hospital ballots in accordance with statutory requirements.
*failure to maintain the security of poll books during the official canvass
*failure to examine campaign finance reports in a timely manner.
*failure to guard and protect public documents.
*failure to guard and protect public documents ....etc.


-One-half of the ballots printed and used in the 2004 general election in Lucas county were stored in an open space on the fhird floor of the county warehouse with no security measures in place.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation on Lucas County BOE page 4



-Live ballots were delivered to polling locations a week in advance of the election. Although the ballots were retrieved, one board employee who was assigned to the warehouse informed the SOS staff that he did not believe all the ballots were successfully retrieved.
SOURCE; SOS Investigation, page 5



-Lucas County BOE failed to record or retrieve ballot stub numbers of absentee voters’ ballots as required by statute OH Revised Code 3505.23. It was reported by an elector that her mother had received not one, but three absentee voter ballots. there was no way to determine if similar incidents occurred and if so how many.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation, page 7




-October 4, 2004 was filing deadline for new voter registrations. At that point there were approximately 20,000 unprocessed voter registration applications with less than a month before the election. One mail tray containing 4,500-7,000 (estimates vary) unprocessed “Project Voter” registrations were discovered on or about October 18,2004.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation pg 10

***Of interest here is information obtained from the SOS website entitled ElectionsVoter/results 2003 and 2004 which show the # of registered voters number change from ‘03-’04 was 11,947 in Lucas County: reg voters 2003 in Lucas=288,190 ; registered voter in 2004=300,137.



-In late September or early October an employee of the Ohio Republican Party contacted Sam Thurber (*involved with politician wife Maggie Thurber in Noe scandal.) wanting to inspect and have copies made of all recently returned voter registrations, Ohio Republican Party offered to furnish volunteers to assist with copying postcards. No one at the Lucas County BOE can confirm that anyone was assigned to supervise Republican volunteers. On their second day of copying, a BOE employee, Jennifer Bernath, Democratic Booth Official) saw republican party volunteers peeling off the yellow return stickers applied by the post office. (Violation of RC 149.43 (B) (I) , and agruably a violation of 149.351.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation, pgs 18-19



-The Swanton 3 poll book turned up missing and has never been recovered.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation pg 16





Conyers-Kaptur seek special counsel for Noe probe
by John Conyers, Jr. and Marcy Kaptur
August 4, 2005

The Honorable Alberto Gonzales
Attorney General of the United States
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530


Dear Mr. Attorney General:

We write to request that the U.S. Department of Justice immediately appoint an outside special counsel to assume the Department's investigation into alleged illegal contributions by Mr. Thomas Noe to federal and state political campaigns. In light of recent disclosures that Governor Taft's office, which is a subject of the investigation, made a direct political appeal to Karl Rove for Gregory White, the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Ohio to receive his job, there is little doubt that this is a textbook case for the appointment of a special counsel.

We understand and appreciate that it is not unusual for local and state politicians to use their influence to obtain presidential appointments for their friends and political allies; however, it is unusual, and indeed inappropriate and violative of your regulations, for prosecutors who obtain such appointments to review the conduct of those same individuals and their friends. Regardless of the actual or perceived sincerity or motives of any particular prosecutor, to ask an individual who owes his job to certain politicians to pursue legal actions against those same politicians places the prosecutor in an untenable situation. Whatever actions he or she takes will inevitably be subject to questions of favoritism and bias, calling the entire prosecution into question. This is why the special counsel regulations were promulgated to begin with.

At the outset, we should note that Mr. Noe, who chaired the 2004 Bush-Cheney Campaign for northwest Ohio and managed the State of Ohio's Bureau of Workers Compensation Fund, appears to have been involved in the diversion of millions of dollars from the Fund to unsecured investments in coins and other collectibles.1 Over $12 million in coins purportedly owned by the State of Ohio, and perhaps other collectibles, are missing, including two coins valued at $300,000.2 Further, the State of Ohio now has claimed losses of $215 million dollars as a result of unsecured hedge fund transactions involving MDL Enterprises of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.3 It appears very likely that political contributions to both federal and state officeholders and candidates were channeled from these state funds.4 Mr. Noe himself was a Bush Pioneer who raise over $100,000 for the Bush campaign.5 Many political officials have recognized the impropriety of these contributions and thus have returned them, including Ohio Governor Bob Taft and California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.6

As you are no doubt aware, under the Department's regulations, you are required to appoint a special counsel when (1) a "criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted," (2) the investigation "by a United States Attorney's Office or litigating Division of the Department of Justice would present a conflict of interest for the Department," and (3) "it would be in the public interest to appoint an outside Special Counsel to assume responsibility for the matter."7 There is little doubt that all three factors are met in the Noe case.

In this situation, a criminal investigation is clearly warranted and, as a matter of fact, the Department has initiated one. A grand jury has been seated in the Northern District of Ohio and has been deposing dozens of individuals who may have been involved in these illegal activities. Moreover, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has been seizing computers, files, and assets of some of the individuals involved.

Second, there are myriad conflicts of interest for Department prosecutors to continue the investigation on their own. To begin with, the United States Attorneys investigating the case, those for the Northern and Southern Districts for Ohio, both of whom were appointed by President Bush, would be in the untenable position of investigating a leading official of the 2004 Bush-Cheney campaign. We now know that Mr. White has very close connections with the Governor's office and the White House. In fact, recently released records show that Mr. White sought Governor Taft's help in obtaining the U.S. Attorney position.8 The Governor's Chief of Staff, Brian Hicks, apparently communicated with Karl Rove, then a counselor to the President, about Mr. White's interest in the post.9 In an e-mail to Mr. Hicks, Mr. White wrote, "'I believe that my record speaks for itself, and I doubt there are too many county chairs for the Bush campaign that worked harder.'"10 This is the same Brian Hicks who was convicted along with his executive assistant, Cherie Carroll for accepting gifts from Mr. Noe in violation of state law (both are now lobbyists).11 In assessing this prong of the regulations, the test for appointment of a special counsel does not rest on the prosecutor in question's perceived reputation or the characterization of his reputation by others, regardless of their political stripe; it is based on whether the conflict of interest exists at all, which is clearly the case in the present instance.

In addition, on October 1, 2004, one month before the election, the Bush administration appointed Mr. Noe as Chair of the U.S. Mint's Citizens Coinage Advisory Committee.12 Federal legislation was passed for the specific purpose of allowing Mr. Noe's appointment.13 That legislation moved through the U.S. House Committee on Financial Services, before which Mr. Noe had testified14 and to whose Members Mr. Noe had contributed financially. Mr. Noe resigned the U.S. Mint position on May 26, 2005,15 after the circumstances of the appointment were publicized in the media.

Finally, the appointment of a special counsel for this matter would undoubtedly serve the public interest. The allegations of improper conduct reach to the highest-possible levels of federal and state government and pertain to a serious corruption of our democratic system of government. The appointment of a special counsel would demonstrate to the American public the Department's understanding of the importance of and need for impartiality in this case. Also, an investigation by a single special counsel would not be subject to any jurisdictional issues that may be present under the current scenario of two prosecutors. There is little question that high-ranking political officials nationally and at the state level were knowledgeable and involved in these activities. Many questions must be addressed involving the link between alleged illegal campaign contributions, diversion of State funds, their relation to 2005 elections, as well as the federal appointment of Mr. Noe to a federal advisory committee.

As a matter of fact, the numerous delays in the investigation have already raised the specter of political favoritism. From documents that have been made public, we know that the U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Ohio, Gregory White, who is leading the federal investigation, had prior knowledge of the losses before the 2004 presidential election, as did the Governor of Ohio and other officials.16 At the same time, no investigation was initiated on these matters until spring of this year.17

The fact pattern present in this case, particularly with the new disclosure that the lead federal prosecutor may well have gotten his job as a result of a political appeal by Governor Taft's office to Karl Rove, make it abundantly clear that a special counsel is necessitated. We urge you to make such a designation immediately to help restore public trust in this very important investigation.

We look forward to promptly hearing whether you will appoint a special counsel and, if not, the reason for your decision. Please reply through the House Judiciary Committee Minority Office, 2142 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515 (tel 202-225-6504; fax: 202-225-4423).

Sincerely,
John Conyers, Jr.
Marcy Kaptur

http://www.freepress.org/departments/displ...


so sorry to keep sounding like a broken record, but keep hoping this becomes a bigger story. Kerry Won Ohio and I won't get over it.

Peace.

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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:47 AM
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6. Thanks Autorank.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 10:49 AM
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7. Now THIS is what we are talking about. K & R
The common meme here that if there was anything wrong there would be investigations, and since there were no investigations there must've been nothing wrong becomes much more obvious now.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 11:34 AM
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8. More invaluable information I wish was on the front page of every paper!!
Thanks AR for posting.

Will forward this on to friends.

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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 04:18 PM
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11. I'd wondered why they were reopening 1960's Cold Cases
K and R!

If they spend all their time reopening Cold Cases in the 1950s and 1960s South, they won't have to investigate those RED HOT acses looking them right in the eyes!

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Einsteinia Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 04:24 PM
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12. Fabulous! As Always
THANKS FOR THE INCREDIBLE COMPENDIUM TYING IT ALL TOGETHER SO NEATLY
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 04:31 PM
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13. Agree, Autorank, the only way to stop election fraud = prosecute
As long as they get what they want with no repercussions, they are not going to stop.
there was a lot of controversy in Maryland over Ben Cardin going after misleading campaign
statements by the Michael Steele campaign. Critics claim that he is seeking "revenge" and
is a "sore winner." He says that it is not currently against the law to lie in campaign
literature; it should be.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 06:40 PM
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14. Yeh, election fraud!
It's not about the alleged voter fraud, it's all about election fraud!
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-02-07 09:30 PM
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15. SCOTUS ending a hand count of the ballots, The Government pushing DRE's
Paperless voting, the Government pushing AUDITS of the secret proprietary vote counting machines, in order to prevent WE THE PEOPLE from hand counting the optiscanned paper ballots, ONCE AGAIN.

No red FLAGS here, Thanks guys/gals for looking into this ELECTION THEFT SCAM, Go seek out an individual voter that may have stuffed ten ballots in a ballot box.

What the hell do we pay these guys for. Great thread Autorank I needed this, K&R :toast:
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