How did I lose 26983 votes in NM?

I've been totalling New Mexico precinct votes for the last day, and I can't account for 26983 votes. When I total the precinct votes and compare to the county totals, they don't match.

http://www.ideamouth.com/politics/bbv/NMprecincttallies.php

I put all the precinct numbers for Eddy County - the worse offender - on the sheet, can someone check the numbers for me? Have I done something stupid here?

Eddy
Main Voting System Type: Optical

Contact Info:
Jean Blenden
County Clerk
101 W. Greene, Ste. 312
Carlsbad, NM 88220
(505) 885-3383

Registered Voters: 27683
Voting age Population: 36751

full population Population: 51658

Are the voting machine types by county online someplace?

I added that to my table.

If you dont have this already.

http://web.state.nm.us/Election/VotingMachines.html

it would mean that some counties included them in precinct totals, and others didn't?

And Eddy had more than half their voters use absentee ballots.

in the totals for the county or precinct. They can't just ignore the number.

But just to speculate, weren't poll workers handing out absentee ballots to Latino voters like "candy" in some places?

This from Greg Pallast:

"'They were handing them out like candy,' Albuquerque journalist Renee Blake reported of provisional ballots. About 20,000 were given out. Who got them?
Santiago Juarez who ran the "Faithful Citizenship" program for the Catholic Archdiocese in New Mexico, told me that "his" voters, poor Hispanics, whom he identified as solid Kerry supporters, were handed the iffy provisional ballots. Hispanics were given provisional ballots, rather than the countable kind "almost religiously," he said, at polling stations when there was the least question about a voter's identification. Some voters, Santiago said, were simply turned away."

The 2000 US Census reports that 39% of Eddy County is Latino. http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/QTTable?_bm=n&_lang=en&qr_name=DEC_2000_SF1_U_DP1&ds_name=DEC_2000_SF1_U&geo_id=05000US35015 I have no idea what percentage it is today, but there is a 50% difference between the precinct and county totals.

I don't know either way, but this thread brings up an excellent point. This discrepency needs to be addressed now! And even if it is about absentee ballots, have they been counted and if not, how fast can we get them tallied?

Aren't they quite different? Am I completely wrong about this?

Quite a few only offer county totals and good luck to finding the precincts.

Some won't give the party with the name. Some do.

One has a gorgeous chart with every single precinct and vote perfectly visible and easy to understand.

Rockland County went Democratic but it's weird, I tell you, just weird.

So why should NM be different?

Hi,
I know that only about half of NM precincts had reported to the State SOS yesterday, mid-morning. There are some counties with some very serious problems, from what I see so far. SOme counties asked for extension to reporting.

I have also called Gov. Richardson office to see if they are either in the process of investigating or preparing to investigate our voting issues in NM. I won't have answer to that question until next week.

NM Freedom

Almost every precinct has more votes than voters.
Except for one, which has ten times more voters than votes (precinct 1) which balances out the other precincts somewhat.

(dialup warning: 200+kb)
http://www.ideamouth.com/politics/bbv/NMovervotes.php
(check out the third column - should be positive numbers throughout)

Hmmmmmm 142% turnout in 2000 for Republicans. GRRRRRRR
I want to know why this wasn't caught until now!
NM Freedom

Plus one for absentees that is NOT available to total? From what I saw.

There are also eliminated precincts, I know not why.

I got K/E 6,394. B/C 11,966. Total voters (including for minor candidates and those who ignored presidential): 18,506.

The presidential numbers showing in each precinct were consistent with numbers in other races, nothing outstanding.

I added the Eddy precinct numbers from the bottom half of this:
http://www.ideamouth.com/politics/bbv/NMprecincttallies.php

and got:

Kerry: 3640 (37.63%)
Bush: 5975 (61.78%)
Other: 57 (.59%)
Total: 9672

But the county page shows:
Kerry: 6880
Bush: 13268
Other: 122
Total: 20270


9672 votes are accounted for in precinct totals
The other 10528 missing ballots ? had to break out like this:

Kerry: 3240 (30.57%)
Bush: 7293 (68.81%)
Other: 65 (.61%)

You gave me a link to Eddy and I added the precinct tallies, starting with precinct 001 and going to 045. I did a subtotal every five precincts. I had 4 columns: precinct, K/E, B/C, and total number of people voting which rarely matched the presidential vote but not excessively. Some people blew off the presidential vote (not nearly as many as did it in NY, btw). I looked at other votes in the precincts and the numbers were pretty much in line. It's a cozy system in NM with some
Republicans running unopposed and some Democrats running unopposed and most people fine with the idea, judging by the numbers.

It's possible they were updating numbers as I was copying them. Do you mind spot checking your Kerry votes with the Kerry votes on the page I linked above?

I see Sample precincts from Eddy: 6866+13240+22+9+23+66=20226 Beneath that is the Eddy precinct link I used.

Am I right that K/E is 6866 and B/C is 13240? My totals are less. 6394 and 11,966. Since I did it after you, it isn't a matter of more being added.

Damn. I did not want to make anything worse. I wish to back away from numbers and never do anything but bake cookies and do no harm ever.

Someone's changed the Eddy numbers today on their site. I've got the original pages all saved - I was saving them on my computer yesterday as I was going through them. And I know they were the same this morning, because I recopied the numbers when I saw the discrepancy today, to make sure it wasn't an error on my end before posting here.

The 6866 is for Kerry, etc, yep, but that was the number straight off the county page, not a count of precincts on my end.

What does it mean that the county totals were in, but the precinct numbers are now changing? Isn't it all automated?

Are the absentees being added into their precincts?

not sure what.

until the official canvass is complete. That's SOP for all counties.

But it sure is confusing, especially when I see precincts subtracting a vote here or there ... it was a good vote yesterday, but not so much today?

that got accepted incorrectly into the tally? Can't say much more without knowing NM's technology, but some forms of voting technology unfortunately still allow overvotes.

They're probably canvassing pretty carefully since the count's going so slowly.

this from bev at

http://www.blackboxvoting.org

BREAKING -- SATURDAY NOV 13 2004: Black Box Voting is implementing fraud diagnostics on the state of New Mexico. Information we recently received is indicative of widespread vote manipulation. We are not going to publicize the specifics here.

If you have data, please forward to those of us who can help corroborate. We have some familiarity...

Posted a spreadsheet with all new mexico counties 2000 compared to 2004. Some anomalies on obeservation pages. lwfern, I think you already have this. Not broken down by precints as you have, but registers the county tabulation numbers. These as you say, have significant number of non-sourced votes.

http://lnvb.westside.com/default.view

Monk and I split up the work on this, and now we have a precinct by precinct sheet of New Mexico, as of Nov 14.
http://ideamouth.com/politics/bbv/NMprecincttallies.php

observations here:
http://lnvb.westside.com/NewMexico/observations.view

A lot of numbers changed this weekend for them. Rio Arriba is still looking quite curious.

But they are not in the total for unsourced votes now.