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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 03:03 PM
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There's a video in here that's very interesting...
BBV is mentioned in it and I know that's not appreciated around here, but the youtube video itself is mindboggling. Just thought I'd post it for those who haven't seen it.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19050.htm

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If this election had been conducted in any other country in the world, the Bush administration would have immediately dispatched an independent team of election observers and demanded a recount. But not in the good old USA, where stealing elections is replacing baseball as the national pastime. Would it surprise you to know that (according to Black Box Voting) the Marketing and Sales Director of the company that tallies the votes (LHS) “was arrested, indicted, and pleaded guilty to "sale / CND" and sentenced to 12 months in the Rockingham County Correctional facility, and fined $2000.” That would be LHS Sales Director Mr. Ken Hajjar. Here's an excerpt from Bev Harris's Black Box Voting web site:


“The Diebold ballot printing plant at the time we got records on the overages (that is, more ballots than needed for election; MW) was being run by a convicted felon who had spent four years in prison on a narcotics trafficking charge. No, not New Hampshire's voting machine programming exec Ken Hajjar, who cut a plea deal in 1990 for his role in cocaine distribution. This was another convicted felon, John Elder, who ran the Diebold ballot printing plant; he's now an elections consultant.” ( http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-auth.cgi?file=/1954/71260.html )

Still feel confident about the election results?

Then why not spend 5 minutes perusing this you-tube demonstration that shows how anyone with a screwdriver and a brain the size of a walnut can transform a 'humiliating defeat' into a miraculous Clintonesque “comeback”. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiiaBqwqkXs

The you-tube video also shows LHS's owner defending the dubious record of his optical scanning hardware in court. The reader can decide for himself whether we're dealing with a man of impeccable integrity or another flannel-mouth opportunist who has enriched himself at the expense of our basic democratic institutions.

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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 03:12 PM
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1. Thx Babylonia. Elder I think was in prison with Jeffrey Dean
and worked with him at GES before it was acquired by Diebold in Jan 02, just in time for Dean to write the software fot the GA elections of 02.

I may be wrong on the fx here, but I know Elder has a rap sheet for drugs and I'm pretty sure he was in the slammer with Dean and worked with him at GES.
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 03:23 PM
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2. Shame on Obama if he doesn't join the request for a hand-count
otherwise he's leaving the tough issues for Kucinich to deal with, and pay for out-of-pocket; when Obama could
join the request and have NH pay for it, which they should since it's THEIR freaking hackable machines that
created this mess.

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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:10 PM
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3. Obama states in one of his books that "election theft by machine" is conspiracy theory.
He has all the confidence in the world in those machines.

Things that make ya go "hmmmm".
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:17 PM
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4. Wow, talk about naive. I didn't know that. No wonder Rethugs won't mind running against him. nt
He's be easy pickings with his head in that sand.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 05:25 PM
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5. Election theft won't be tolerated: Obama/'The nice thing is, I'm a voting-rights attorney'
Hmmmm......


Election theft won't be tolerated: Obama
CAUCUSES | 'The nice thing is, I'm a voting-rights attorney'

January 1, 2008
BY ABDON M. PALLASCH Political Reporter/apallasch@suntimes.com

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At a town hall meeting in rural Jefferson on Monday, undecided voter Bruce Banister, 56, asked Obama, "The last two presidential elections have been very dirty, and for me there have been very serious questions about whether George Bush was even legally elected. I want to know if we have another dirty election and you are the candidate, if you think it is dirty, will you back off like Gore and Kerry did or will you fight?"

Obama replied, "I intend to whoop 'em so good that it won't even be close and they can't steal the election."

After sustained cheers, laughter and applause, Obama added that he would hope to win over enough independents and Republicans in the general election that, "We aren't going to have 47 percent on one side, 47 percent on the other side, 5 percent in the middle and they all live in Ohio and Florida so you only campaign in two states."

Then Obama gave the hard-charging answer Banister was looking for: "If for any reason this thing is close, we will fight it tooth and nail till the end. The nice thing is, I'm a voting-rights attorney as well as a civil rights attorney."

That was enough to persuade Banister, a rare-guitar dealer, to commit to supporting Obama over his other choice, John Edwards, in Thursday night's caucus.

more...

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/721461,CST-NWS-iowa01.article
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:33 PM
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6. That answer did not address the secretly programmed voting machines.
In his book, he clearly states his position on that.
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