1/17/08 results for NH. Check out Manchester Ward 5

http://www.sos.nh.gov/recountresults.htm
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Looks a little "hinky" compared to the rest.

what gives

overall though no real change at all

from the machine totals...what gives?

Why? The question is why?

:sarcasm:

Clinton 11.1
Edwards 11.75
Obama 11

so the machines are just fine.

If my ATM was off by 10% I wouldn't use it. And how much do each of these Optiscans cost?

this shows a significant problem because even if they are all off by the same margin, only one of two things could be possible:

1) those missing votes went somewhere else so the totals still matched.

2) no one checked the vote totals against the check-in list on election night

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire


Population Est. 2006 1,314,895


Intriguing state motto: "Live Free or Die.





Hillsborough County demographics

As of the census² of 2000, there were 380,841 people, 144,455 households, and 98,807 families residing in the county. The population density was 435 people per square mile (168/km²). There were 149,961 housing units at an average density of 171 per square mile (66/km²). The racial makeup of the county was 93.90% White, 1.29% Black or African American, 0.25% Native American, 2.00% Asian, 0.03% Pacific Islander, 1.31% from other races, and 1.22% from two or more races. 3.19% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race. 87.6% spoke English, 5.1% French and 2.7% Spanish as their first language.

but how does it count too many votes?

One does wonder.

We may have a case of missing votes somewere.

divide the recount# by the original count#. Thats what's unusual.

A shame really, it used to be informative and grounded in reality, rather than hysterics and screaming guesswork.

This recount is turning out as many sane people thought it would.

I posted this before Brad


Your point is moot.

But welcome none the less

...glad to see you about.:hi:

:hi: Nice to see more people actually have their votes counted (correctly), isn't it?

Landshark was the first person I heard use the term chain of custody during the whole OHIO snafu.


....and Who's to say about chain of custody.

I think given the last 4 years for me and some here 8, we have learned much ...though some have become cynical while others scoff at the process, IMO we're all better off for it.




To a dem in the whitehouse come Nov.:toast:

He went to the fundaments of the right to vote, and before most anybody else was insisting that votes should be subject (at the least) to the same protections as dollars.

This all fulcrums against the argument that money is free speech, when it comes to voting. Because if that's true, votes are the gold standard.

Good to see you being polite to the newcomers...

just messin' with ya :P

What about 89%? Obama picked up 25 votes after the hand count in Ward #5. How many other wards across the state were off as much as 11%?

You're hopeless. You remind me of those dogmatic Huckabee supporters. You have much in common with them.

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3-year belated welcome.

No disrespect meant.

:kick:

The point of a recount is to make sure that all votes are counted. It is an exercise in honesty, accuracy, and protection of the franchise.

The delegate count is unlikley to change, thus the "winner" won't either. But the candidates are NOT the focus of our democratic process, however the media might try to make it so. The VOTERS are at the center, and should have their rightful place restored: in law, in practice, and in the minds of the nation.

Will the last person to register uncommitted, please turn off the lights?

The Diebold scanners show the vote totals on each machine. Each precinct should check the total number of votes vs. the voter roll (check-in list). If there is a significant discrepancy in number of voters, that should be noticed on election night.

the numbers look like everyone lost about 10% of their votes. That should have been caught on election night.

...since they didn't train some of them to use the right pens.

With the heavier than expected turnout, maybe people decided the type of ink wasn't so important after all? :shrug:

Most BOEs chop back on training when they're busy or short of funds. With a few hundred ballots in the same precinct having been marked with the wrong ink, it's almost a sure bet that training was inadequate.

will be in short supply in some Dem precincts come November. Just thinking back to the way voting machines were distributed in places like Ohio four years ago.

We should make sure that pollwatchers have pens.

problems with e-pollbooks usually manifest as voters not being allowed to vote.

The widest variations so far were in Manchester's Ward 5. Vote counters there mistakenly transposed write-in votes for vice president as votes for presidential candidate. As a result, all major candidates lost votes. Kucinich lost three in the ward and has a total of 20 votes there. Hillary Clinton lost 64 with a new total of 619; John Edwards lost 38 and has 217 votes; Barack Obama lost 39 and has 365, and Bill Richardson lost seven, leaving him 39.

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Primary+recount+continues+with+minor+changes&articleId=ad21f73a-f6e4-4f50-864c-2e417e08cdf6

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2712145


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