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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:06 AM Original message |
Voting Systems with "Open Source" Software are Computerized Voting |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
1. Open source software allows for public verification of the code |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. You mean public verification of the source code. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
2. Open souce is auditable. The opposite, propriatery software, is not. |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. And the "compiled into binary objects" code is not a "human-readable language", however. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. You can take the purported source code, compile it using the same open-source compiler |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Would that work on those reported hacks where the bad code eats itself? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I don't believe it could be hidden if all the source for the application, compilers, and linkers |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Maybe I could, but what about the little blue-haired ladies working the polls? nt |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. They are indeed the ones you need to keep an eye on |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Agreed! |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Oh, and how do I know the compiler is the same compiler? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Same way you validate the object you are primarily concerned with |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. And there ought to be a log file, and a log of what's going into the log file, and a log of that.... |
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diva77 (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 01:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. why try to insert complexity where it's not needed; simple collating skills |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. ! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I've never been convinced of the cost benefit of automated voting systems |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Compile the Source and Compare the Resulting Binary |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. That sounds helpful. |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. We Need to Inspect the Data Files Too |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Oh, so you're saying the post-election audit is really the way to verify? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. The easiest way to audit an election is to count the paper ballots by hand under dual control |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Agreed. As long as enough of them are counted, and they haven't been tampered with beforehand. nt |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-31-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Controlling boxes of paper is a lot easier than controlling things nobody can see |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-30-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
19. Open source is better than private. However-- |
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