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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:44 AM
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Where is the NAACP/Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton?
Hi-
I'm in Atlanta on business and just had a conversation with someone from the NAACP who are meeting here this week. I asked what he thought of the election (after sharing that I'd worked with the NAACP and Election Protection in Florida). He said he felt terrible about the election results and that something was "very strange". I then took the liberty of sharing with him what many of us know about the "strange" election and about Black Box voting, etc. He said there had been conversation about the possibility of tampering last week, but that no one had any idea of what could be done. He was flabbergasted to learn that there was work going on to expose the fraud and promised to spread the word to his colleagues. I gave him links, took his info to send him more info- but it hit me that WE NEED TO GET THEM INVOLVED- and fast. I still can't figure out where Rev. Jackson and Al Sharpton have gone and why they are so quiet about the millions who were once again, disenfranchised- but perhaps we should start collectively to blast the NAACP and other minority rights and activist groups with factual information. This could be another avenue to get the word out which is what we need most of all right now.

What do you all think? Can anyone help get this started with links/contacts, etc. Anyone connected with the NAACP or any other groups like this that we know would be interested in learning the truth?

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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:48 AM
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1. Why blast the NAACP?
Edited on Mon Nov-15-04 11:51 AM by liberalnurse
They did their part......We all have to take responsibility to correct the voting fraud and plan for future elections. Why lean on the NAACP? They have lead almost every civil rights fight.....it's not their badge alone.
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Hobbes199 Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:01 PM
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24. Blast them with factual information...
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:49 AM
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2. It's simple politics.
Shapton and Jackson screamed last time and looked like extremists. If they do it again, they prove their opponents' point.
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sherilocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:55 AM
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5. Sharpton, Jackson, and Rangel
were in Tallahasse every day in 2000 leading the charge. The CBC was fully engaged. Go after the white Democratic leadership ( with a few exceptions) that are so quick to "white"wash the whole enchilda and get back to business as usual in DC.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:01 PM
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8. I agree, but can your racist overtones.
They have no place here.
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sherilocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:09 PM
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11. What racist overtones?
I don't have any racist overtones in me.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:16 PM
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15. "white"wash? C'mon.
There's a very clear implication you made there and it is not appreciated.
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sherilocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:23 PM
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16. Surely you jest or you were asleep
during the 2000 Gore vote debacle here in Florida. Just what do you think the implication is? Only a handful of white Democrats stood with the CBC when they took their stand to prevent the selection of the Chimp. If you find that offensive, I can't help you. I stand by what I said.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:25 PM
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17. Their stand was symbolic, at best.
There was no way anyone in that room really thought or expected someone to sign the objection. It was not going to happen. Period.

Being white had absolutely nothing to do with it. Politics had everything to do with it. It was the right decision to make given the political climate. So yeah, I find your implication to be racist.
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sherilocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:33 PM
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18. So be it
I can't please everyone. But all the vociferous CBC members were returned to Congress, as well as the other members who supported the action, except Cynthia McKinnon and she is back this year. I can't say the same for the others who did what was politically expedient, but not necessarily right.
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bluetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:51 AM
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3. I think it's a great idea to get the NAACP involved
with all these other groups (DU included) who are working to sort this out.

I don't think that's "leaning" on them. We can't force them to take it up one way or another but if they aren't aware (and I find that unlikely, actually) it can't hurt to keep them up to date. I can't believe that they aren't already involved in Ohio.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:51 AM
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4. think about it
Sharpton was supposedly funded by hard core rightists in much the way Nader has been. Talked a beautiful talk, but served no practical progressive purpose, simply distracted voters from unifying behind any particular progressive. Jesse Jackson was assassinated by GW the first day he was in power. He was lucky he didnt get anthraxed. The fascist media calls the tune and many of our so called spokespeople are in place through nefarious machinations designed to placate rather than promote. Otherwise, there would still be assassinations by gunshot taking place. It is not about Kerry now, it is not about famous names and designer labels. It is about democracy in the USA and NO ONE in power is interested in that. If they were, we would have an entirely different system in place.
Right now all we really have is Frog Soup. Dont waste time expecting help from above. Its on us. Fight, goddamnit. FIGHT!
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:56 AM
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7. I just heard on a news report that Rev. Jesse Jackson, and
Martin Luther King Jr.'s eldest daughter are here in SoCal (specifically, Los Angeles) to protest the closing of an essential emergency room - the King-Drew Medical Center. I believe I heard that Rev. Al Sharpton was going to be there also.

That's where they are now.
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sherilocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:08 PM
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10. Check out Sharpton's Donors
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:16 PM
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25. I was thinking of his links with Roger Stone
Edited on Mon Nov-15-04 02:16 PM by tinanator
who perhaps did not donate cash? A poorly misworded notion I apologize.
I really dont see any segregation between Republican and Democratic
power structures. Just the segregation between they and their
"constituents"
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:22 PM
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26. lots to laugh at though!
$2,000 from student Dominique Sharpton! several Stone's contributing a couple hundred each, I have no idea if its Roger's family but I imagine so. The fact is Kucinich's was a very formidible campaign that was up against some intense machinery within the party and the system which is not in place to permit bottom up democracy.
Including rigged poll results, I have no doubt, particularly in California.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:28 PM
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29. Please point to me where those hard-core rightists are in that list
Edited on Mon Nov-15-04 02:35 PM by downstairsparts
Do you mean, Vincent A. Brown, program director for WBLS New York, which is a black station? He gave $500.

Maybe you mean the well-known (unfortunately for him) Abner Louima, who gave $1,000.

Then again you might be referring to Mrs. Julie Moore, a housewife in Jackson, Mississippi and her $500. No?

Certainly, Elizabeth N. Ackers, who lists herself as unemployed but still coughed up $250 is one of those hard-core fat cat Republicans blithely enriching the Sharpton coffers.

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sherilocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 03:07 PM
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31. I think you were replying to another post
I implied the reverse and I agree with the rest of your post.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 03:31 PM
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32. Apologies, I misread your post
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sherilocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 04:03 PM
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33. Accepted
with a big :-)
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danfromqueens Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 11:55 AM
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6. they did what they could
what can they do when its stolen!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:07 PM
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9. They were at the Democratic National Convention giving speeches....
....and the neo-con pundits (Limbaugh/Hannity/Savage/et al) were discrediting their speakers while they were giving their speeches to the convention. I never heard representatives from the DNC come on the air and discredit the lies that the neo-con pundits were spewing about civil rights and discrimination being past issues from the 1960's and the democratic party living in the dark ages. This election with it's code word word issue of "moral values" and "anti-liberalism" is all about racism and white race domination of the political agenda in this country.

The democratic leadership should have thrown the race issues right back into the republicans laps and gotten totally into the republicans faces about the war and the economy. Instead, our party leadership allowed the issue to be clouded with anti-abortion and gay-basing rhetoric from the religious right along with legitimizing the Bushites claims that the Iraq War was being fought out of our national patriotic duty to defend American shores and kill terrorists in the homes and mosques and streets of Iraqi cities towns and villages. The jobs that are being created are war industry jobs. As long as the war continues, those parts of the country will prosper and the rest of the country will become more and more impoverished. I love John Kerry and John Edwards, but we as democrats have to face the hard truth about what went wrong.

Couple all of that light touch campaigning with voter fraud, disenfranchisement and vote stealing by the Bush factions and we have a time bomb that can be dropped on Bush and the republican party that will kick their asses out of Washington D.C. and back into the fundamentalist religious compounds and neo-conservation billionaire estates from which they slithered and crawled out of.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:10 PM
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13. Rev. Al's speech was the bomb!
Edited on Mon Nov-15-04 12:12 PM by politicasista
It was funny and the truth. The DNC gave us so much hope even though they should have focused more on race issues. Kerry/Edwards would have made good president/vice president.
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:10 PM
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12. I'm from Atlanta: I will link to NAACP
I'll follow this by faxing to NAACP; here is the article to the AJC yesterday. Bear in mind that this is a pretty piss poor paper that Atlantans have endured all these years. I'll also go over to Creative Loafing in Atlanta and get something cranked. Have been working on this but live in NC. marsha hammond

Marsha Hammond, PhD: Licensed Psychologist: NC & GA
545 Oakland Ave., S.E. Atlanta, GA 30312
e mail: hammondmv@netzero.com
cell phone: 404 964 5338

November 14, 2004

Dear Ms. Malone:

Thank you for your article, "Election conspiracy theories persist."

The problems are not small as your article seemed to advocate: "Even so, Doug Chapin, executive director of Electionline.org, a nonpartisan research group set up to study the nation's voting system, is not surprised that doubts are surfacing. After the 2000 election, he said, "any problem is going to get noticed, no matter how small."

Indeed, here are some of the problems w/ GA's election and that goes back over two years ago. It would be so refreshing to see an article associated with the problems with the Diebolds which are used across the state.

Here is some of my collected information if that is useful to you. thanks for reading this e mail.

Sincerely,

Marsha Hammond, PhD: Licensed Psychologist

cc: my friends in Atlanta concerned with these issues



ITEM 1

May 19, 2004 / vol 10 iss 41 http://www.mountainx.com/news/2004/0519evote.php
Rolling the dice
Voting in the computer age
by Cecil Bothwell



Diebold DREs, which were used statewide in Georgia in the 2002 election (see "It Ain't Peanuts"). Researchers from the Information Security Institute at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore investigated and discovered what they called "stunning flaws" in the programs used to run the machines.
Johns Hopkins researcher Adam Stubblefield, who co-wrote the paper, told The New York Times, "With what we found, practically anyone in the country – from a teenager on up – could produce these smart cards that could allow someone to vote as many times as they like."
Although Diebold hotly defended its system, a follow-up study conducted by Johns Hopkins for the state of Maryland reached similar conclusions, discovering 328 software glitches (more than two dozen of which were labeled "critical").
Last year, Diebold admitted that there were problems with the systems in those two states – but insisted that its machines everywhere else are reliable. Last month, however, California learned that Diebold had sold and installed thousands of its new TSx machines in the state without the required testing and certification.
"I understand your frustration," Diebold chief developer Tab Iredell told the Bay area's Tri-Valley Herald. "Why did we sell something that we didn't think we could run? Our understanding, based on past experience, was we thought we could get that certified."



ITEM 2



http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,60563-2,00.html?tw=wn_story_page_next1

Did E-Vote Firm Patch Election?

By Kim Zetter

Diebold Election Systems has had a tumultuous year, and it doesn't look like it's getting any better.
Last January the electronic voting machine maker faced public embarrassment when voting activists revealed the company's insecure FTP server was making its software source code available for everyone to see.
Then researchers and auditors who examined code for the company's touch-screen voting system released two separate reports stating that the software was full of serious security flaws.
Now a former worker in Diebold's Georgia warehouse says the company installed patches on its machines before the state's 2002 gubernatorial election that were never certified by independent testing authorities or cleared with Georgia election officials.
If the charges are true, Diebold could be in violation of federal and state election-certification rules. The charges also raise questions about the integrity of the Georgia election results and any other election that uses patched Diebold systems that have not been re-certified.
According to Rob Behler, an engineer hired as a contractor to work in Diebold's Georgia warehouse last year, the Diebold systems had major functioning problems.
Behler said 25 to 30 percent of the machines in one shipment to the warehouse either crashed upon booting or had problems with their real-time clocks, causing the systems to register the date inaccurately then boot improperly or freeze up altogether.
"They did not meet what I would deem standard operation," he said.
Behler said Diebold provided warehouse workers with at least three patches to apply to the systems before state officials began logic and accuracy testing on them. Behler said one patch was applied to machines when he came to the warehouse in June, a second patch was applied in July and a third in August after he left the warehouse.
Behler first informed Bev Harris, owner of the BlackBox Voting site, of the situation. Harris has spent a year investigating problems with electronic voting systems, and is the author of a forthcoming book on the technology. She said the practice of patching systems after they've been certified opens the possibility for anyone -- from Diebold employees to local election officials -- to install malicious code on a machine that could alter election results and then delete itself to avoid detection.
According to Harris, this scenario is particularly worrisome in light of what happened in the Georgia gubernatorial race, which ended in a major upset that defied all polls and put a Republican in the governor's seat for the first time in more than 130 years.
Republican candidate Sonny Perdue managed to unseat Democratic incumbent Roy Barnes with only 51 percent of the vote. It was the first time an incumbent governor had not won his second term since Georgia law allowed back-to-back terms in 1978.
Pundits have attributed the upset to dissatisfaction with the incumbent for altering a Confederate symbol on the state flag and to effective stumping by President George W. Bush on behalf of Perdue.
Harris acknowledged no proof exists that anyone rigged the election systems, but she said, "We'll never know exactly what happened in Georgia because there's no paper trail to verify the votes."
Harris and other voting activists around the country are calling for states and certifying authorities to open the election process and electronic voting systems to public scrutiny to ensure public confidence in elections.
Officials in Georgia's secretary of state's office did not respond to repeated calls for comment.
Behler was hired by Automated Business Systems and Services, a large contracting agency, to work in Diebold's Georgia warehouse from mid-June to mid-July 2002, five months before the gubernatorial election.
He was in charge of assembling about 20,000 machines for the election, testing them and shipping them to 159 counties. But, he said, the work was complicated by misbehaving machines that presented few clues to their problems. .
"It's hard to track down a problem when you go out to your car and the first time it starts, the next time the headlights don't work, the next time you start it the brakes are out, and the next time you start it the door falls off," Behler said. "That's really the way they were."
Behler said Diebold programmers posted patches to a file-transfer-protocol site for him and his colleagues to apply to the machines.
Diebold did not respond to repeated calls for comment, but in an interview with Salon in February, company spokesman Joseph Richardson denied the company applied any patches to the Georgia machines.
"We have analyzed that situation and have no indication of that happening at all," he said.
Rebecca Mercuri, a computer science professor and research fellow at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government who is an expert on voting machines, says an unregulated change to voting software would raise big concerns for her.
"Having any change to the operating system allows someone to slip in anything to the code. If (a patch) was not run through the inspection process, then there could be a violation of the Georgia state law," she said.
Indeed, Georgia law requires that companies that make changes to fix defective systems after they are certified must let state officials know about the changes and provide test documentation showing that changes do not do anything to the system other than fix the defect.
Before machines are used in an election, state election boards conduct logic and accuracy tests (PDF) on them with a mock election to make sure the machines perform properly. Academics at Kennesaw State University, led by professor emeritus Brit Williams, have a contract with the state to perform this testing.
But Behler said Diebold instructed him and his colleagues to fix problems with the machines before Kennesaw State would see them.
"If they started erring in mass quantities, Kennesaw State's going to raise a red flag, the secretary of state's going to raise a red flag and Diebold wouldn't get paid," Behler said.
He said the machines were patched not only in the Diebold warehouse, but also in county warehouses after they were shipped from Diebold.
At one point, Behler said he went to a warehouse in DeKalb County with "a high-level Diebold executive" to examine systems that were freezing up. Behler patched 1,387 machines but said, "We were still running upwards of 20 to 25 percent errors."
Diebold programmers contacted him and his colleagues and told them the patch was incorrect and they'd have to load a new one.
"JS equipment is what we were calling it at the time," said Behler. "Junk shit. Everyone in the warehouse was familiar with the term, to say the least."
Behler said the patches he applied were never certified. No third party, other than the Diebold engineers who created the patches, knew what was in the patches. And once machines were patched, they did not undergo re-certification.
When he told Kennesaw professor Williams in July that the machines were being patched, Behler said Williams told him: "Do whatever you need to do now, but you won't be touching the machines once we start our systems-testing on them."
Diebold officials, including company president Bob Urosevich, were angered that he had talked to Williams, according to Behler.
"I literally got called on the carpet and ... told that I was not to speak a word to any of the Kennesaw State people," Behler said.
Behler said as far as he knows, election officials in the Georgia secretary of state's office were never told about the patches.
"That's the last thing Diebold wanted," said Behler. "They made that very clear.... I sat around tables where (Diebold people) discussed whether they were going to tell them the truth, the half-truth or a complete lie.
"I understand if a company has information that they need to keep under tight lip. But when you sit around discussing lying to a client in order to make sure you're getting paid ... it's an ethics issue."
Williams of Kennesaw State University denies Behler ever mentioned patches to him and said, to his knowledge, no uncertified patches were applied to the machines. He said he would be very concerned if this happened.
"If they were changing the configuration of the machine, that would certainly be a concern because that would violate the certification," he said.
Williams does acknowledge, however, that a month and a half before the November election, he worked with Diebold to apply a patch to the Windows CE operating system. The voting machines run on version 3.0 of Windows CE, he said, and they patched it to correct problems they were having with the system.
But he said this patch was passed by Wyle Laboratories, the independent testing authority that originally certified the machines.
"We asked (Wyle) to take a quick look at it, but we didn't have time to do a full qualification on it. This was a month and a half before the election. To go through the full ITA qualification and state certification takes about six months. We asked them to look at it from the point of view of whether or not it would have any impact at all on the main line of the voting software."
As for other patches, Williams said, "We have no idea what Diebold or anybody else does when they go in their warehouse and shut that door."
Williams said they compare the system when it comes out of the Diebold warehouse to make sure it's the same software version that was certified by the ITAs. But he acknowledges that this does not include reading the source code.
He added, however, "We have absolutely no reason to believe that Diebold did anything in that warehouse that we're unaware of."
As for Behler, Williams said he's a disgruntled employee who was fired from the project by Diebold and Automated Business Systems and Services. ABSS, however, said this isn't true.
Initially, Terrence Thomas, ABSS vice president for the southwest region, told Wired News that Behler was dismissed for "lack of performance." But when pressed to elaborate, Thomas consulted Behler's employee file, which he said he had previously not read, and admitted there was no indication that Behler was fired or that anyone at Diebold or ABSS had been disappointed with his performance.
"He was released because his part of the project was completed," Thomas said. He repeated that it wasn't a performance issue. "Officially in my files, there's nothing to indicate that," he said.
James Rellinger, another contractor who worked in the Diebold warehouse until November, confirms that both Diebold and ABSS seemed happy with Behler's work.
Rellinger said workers were surprised when they learned Behler had been replaced and hinted that internal politics were likely the cause. Behler was replaced by a friend of an ABSS project manager, who was later hired as a full-time employee of Diebold.
Behler denies he's a disgruntled employee, saying he is going out on a limb by revealing information that could cost him future work.
"I have seven children to support," he said. "This is not the kind of thing I would say if it wasn't the truth."


ITEM 3



News Update from Citizens for Legitimate Government
November 10, 2004
http://www.legitgov.org/
http://www.legitgov.org/index.html#breaking_news
Diebold Source Code!!! --by ouranos (dailykos.com) "Dr. Avi Rubin is currently Professor of Computer Science at John Hopkins University. He 'accidentally' got his hands on a copy of the Diebold software program--Diebold's source code--which runs their e-voting machines. Dr. Rubin's students pored over 48,609 lines of code that make up this software. One line in particular stood out over all the rest: #defineDESKEY((des_KEY8F2654hd4" All commercial programs have provisions to be encrypted so as to protect them from having their contents read or changed by anyone not having the key... The line that staggered the Hopkins team was that the method used to encrypt the Diebold machines was a method called Digital Encryption Standard (DES), a code that was broken in 1997 and is NO LONGER USED by anyone to secure programs. F2654hd4 was the key to the encryption. Moreover, because the KEY was IN the source code, all Diebold machines would respond to the same key. Unlock one, you have then ALL unlocked. I can't believe there is a person alive who wouldn't understand the reason this was allowed to happen. This wasn't a mistake by any stretch of the imagination



ITEM 4

Never Say Die-bold: So You Don’t Think the Bush Campaign Stole This Election? Think Again
By Jackson Thoreau
opEdNews.com
If you’re looking for one word to sum up the way the Bush-Cheney campaign stole another election Tuesday besides obvious ones like “cheated,” try this one: Diebold.

An election judge where I voted Tuesday in a heavily Democratic precinct in Maryland knows what that means and wasn’t adverse to sharing his opinion of the Republican-owned company. As I was about to vote with the electronic system, I asked this judge if they had a way to check people’s votes through a paper backup.

The official said no, and then in a low voice so no one else would hear, added, “And that really makes us nervous, with Diebold as the owner of that system.”

Goodbye, hanging chads. Hello, computer fraud that leaves no trace, no chads hanging. Diebold Inc. of North Canton, Ohio, supplied scores of machines and counted millions of votes Tuesday, while reportedly discarding many votes for Democrat John Kerry, according to British investigative reporter Gregory Palast. Walden O’Dell, chief executive of Diebold and a top fundraiser for the Bush campaign, wrote in a fund-raising letter last year that he was “committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year.”

That he did.

Software errors involving the system can change results, computer scientists say. Since the majority of touch screens in the United States do not produce paper records, the machines could alter ballots without anyone noticing.
“What has most concerned scientists are problems that are not observable, so the fact that no major problems were observed says nothing about the system,” David Jefferson, a computer scientist at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California, told the Associated Press. “The fact that we had a relatively smooth election yesterday does not change at all the vulnerability these systems have to fraud or bugs.”
Some 8.2 percent of touch-screen votes in senatorial elections between 1998 and 2000 were lost, according to an MIT/CalTech study. That was more than any other system except lever machines, which lost 9.5 percent of votes.
Bev Harris, author of Black Box Voting and the BlackBoxVoting.com web site, has documented numerous cases of electronic disasters. One occurred in Volusia County, Fla., in 2000 in which county election officials hand recounted more than 184,000 paper ballots used to feed the computerized system, after the central ballot-counting computer showed a Socialist Party candidate receiving more than 9,000 votes and Al Gore getting minus 19,000. Another 4,000 votes were received for Bush that should not have been there.
Election officials eventually tallied Gore beating Bush by 97,063 votes to 82,214. But the wrong numbers had already been sent to the media, which were used by FOX and other networks to erroneously call the election for Bush and swing the public relations part of the recount battle in his favor. On Tuesday, Election Protection, a program of People for the American Way, had more than 15,000 calls to its hotline about ballot problems, voter intimidation and other
situations.

The Institute for Public Accuracy also outlined various problems. Susan Truitt, co-founder of the Citizens Alliance for Secure Elections, was quoted on its site saying that seven counties in Ohio had electronic voting machines without paper trails, and scientific exit polls showed Kerry with the lead. But verifying votes was impossible, she said. “A recount without a paper trail is meaningless; you just get a regurgitation of the data,” Truitt said. “A poll worker told me morning that there were no tapes of the results posted on some machines; on other machines the posted count was zero, which obviously shouldn’t be the case.”
Other problems include Ohio’s version of Katherine Harris There were many other problems in Ohio. Like in Florida, the Ohio secretary of state, Ken Blackwell, made decisions on what could be counted and other important matters even as he shilled for Bush as a co-chair of his campaign. This raised serious conflict-of-interest concerns, said Ohio state Senator Teresa Fedor. “There is a pattern of voter suppression; that’s why I called for Blackwell’s resignation more than a month ago,” she said. “Blackwell, while claiming to run an unbiased elections process, was also the co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign in Ohio. Additionally, he was the spokesperson for the anti-business, anti-family constitutional
amendment ‘Issue 1,’ and a failed initiative to repeal a crucial sales-tax revenue source for the state. Blackwell learned his moves from the Katherine Harris playbook of Florida 2000, and we won’t stand for it.”

The Ohio tally also included a version of the Florida butterfly ballot, said Bob Fitrakis, an attorney with Election Protection. The absentee ballots were misleading in Franklin County,” he said. “Kerry was the third line down, but you had to punch number four to vote for him. Bush was getting both his votes as well as Kerry’s.”

There were also far fewer machines in the inner-city districts than in the suburbs, Fitrakis said. “I documented at least a dozen people leaving because the lines were so long in African-American areas,” he said. “Blackwell did a great deal of suppressing before the election - like attempting to refuse to process voter registration forms.” I heard a report that one Ohio voter had to wait in line 15 hours to vote. In one of the busiest precincts in Columbus, Blackwell only supplied it with three voting
machines. How many people gave up and did not vote there?

Dirty tricks by Republicans on the rise A few days before the 2004 election, the Washington Post published an article detailing increasing dirty tricks, mostly by Republicans. In Lake County, Ohio, some people received a memo on bogus Board of Elections letterhead informing voters who registered through Democratic and NACCP drives that they could not vote.

In Leon County, students at Florida State and Florida A&M universities who signed petitions to legalize medical marijuana or impose stiffer penalties for child molesters unknowingly had their party registration switched to Republican and their addresses
changed. The latter would affect their ability to vote since they would not be registered at the proper site. The media traced the source to a group hired by the Florida Republican Party. In Allegheny County, Pa., fliers on a bogus county letterhead were handed out and mailed, saying that “due to immense voter turnout expected on Tuesday,” the election had been extended. Republicans should vote Tuesday, while Democrats should vote on Wednesday – the wrong day.

In some Milwaukee black neighborhoods, a flier warned people that they could not vote in that election if they had already voted in another election that year. “If you
violate any of these laws, you can get ten years in prison and your children will get taken away from you,” the flier said.

In Charleston County, S.C., a fake letter supposedly from the NAACP threatens
voters who have outstanding parking tickets or have failed to pay child support with arrest. A similar flier was distributed in Baltimore in 2002.
Such tricks are not new. There are famous examples like the 1971 break-in of Democratic National Committee headquarters by Nixon. There are also many lesser known examples. In 2002, Ron Kirk, a former Dallas mayor who ran as a Democrat for U.S. Senate, reported a bogus automated phone message dialed to voters in Austin and other cities. The message asked voters to support Kirk because he supported same-sex marriages and gay adoptions. Kirk said he didn’t support either issue and blamed more Republican pre-election dirty tricks. His Republican opponent, John Cornyn, denied being behind the false phone bank. U.S. has a long history of rigged elections The U.S., of course, is no stranger to rigged elections, even well before Tuesday’s and the one in 2000. A famous case was the controversial way that the late President Lyndon B. Johnson won a U.S. Senate seat in 1948 in Texas on his way to the White House that reportedly involved votes from dead people. What some overlook in this case was how LBJ had lost an election in a similar disputed fashion seven years before. Another lesser known case involved the 1984 landslide presidential election of the late Republican Ronald Reagan. In Dallas, where both Bush and Cheney lived at one time, there were 217 ballots cast in a precinct that had zero registered voters. That would not affect the election, but it demonstrates that fraud has existed for a long time. As early as 1986, Michael Shamos, a Pennsylvania computer scientist, testified during a Texas hearing that the computer hardware and software used to tabulate voters’ ballots could easily be manipulated. “Computers can be manipulated remotely, by wire or radio, or by direct physical input,” Shamos said. “The memories on which these computers operate can easily fit into a shirt pocket and can be substituted in seconds. The software can be set to await the receipt of a special card, whose presence will cause all the election counters to be altered. This card could be dropped into the ballot box by any confederate. The possibilities for this type of tampering are endless, and virtually no detection is possible once tabulation has been completed....Even if the software is not altered, there is no reason to believe that it is correct. Many tests performed on such programs have revealed faulty logic and wildly incorrect results.” Suzan Kesim, then-vice president of a security consulting firm in South Bend, Ind., also testified in 1986 that “many of the computer auditing procedures used by the banking industry that have been tried and true could easily be modified or used as they are for auditing elections....Fraud possibilities include ‘hidden programs’.” Texas even had its own voter purge almost two decades before Florida attempted to strike some 60,000 voters from the rolls with false accusations of felony convictions. In 1982, lists were provided to Texas election officials that made mostly false accusations of felony convictions against voters. The accused included public officials who successfully sued for slander. The state also hired armed officers at minority voter precincts and posted signs warning voters against casting illegal ballots. Charles Knutson pointed out in a Democrats.com report that the Texas purge probably involved Bush mastermind Karl Rove, who worked for then-Texas Republican Gov. Bill Clements in 1982. Another odd case involved a West Texas county where the system’s optical scanners misread ballots and at first reported landslide wins for two Republican commissioners in 2002. But the next day, after alert poll workers became suspicious of the wide margins of supposed victory, they discovered a defective computer chip in the scanner system. After two hand recounts and another count with a replacement scanner chip, officials announced that Democrats Jerry House and Chloanne Lindsey actually won by wide margins. “It was hard to believe that that type of mistake had happened,” Robbie Floyd, one of the Republicans who lost, said in one press report. So could Kerry have been ripped off by a defective computer chip in Ohio and Florida, where scientific exit polls indicated Kerry wins? We will never know since, unlike the Texas machines in 2002, the Diebold machines in Ohio and Florida have no paper trail. How convenient.
Popular vote fixed? With all the former and current Republicans supporting Kerry – even a long-time Texas Republican friend of mine voted for a Democrat for the first time for president on Tuesday – it’s hard to believe that Bush got about 3.5 million more votes than Kerry and 8 million more than he received in 2000. There can’t be that many new devil worshippers or Christian fundamentalists. A larger turnout – Tuesday’s 60 percent turnout was the largest since 1968 – has favored Democrats in the past. But about 6 million of those votes have not been counted. Some said that exit polls were accurate in states that had paper trails, but not in ones without the paper trails for e-voting. Even though Kerry conceded, groups like the International Labor Communications Association refused to follow suit. The group is waging a campaign to count all the votes in Ohio.
Kerry’s concession was really strange and disappointing. Would Howard Dean have conceded so fast to Bush? Gore fought Bush harder than Kerry. I don’t get it since Kerry even had Bruce Springsteen play “No Retreat, No Surrender” at a campaign appearance and used that song during other events. John Edwards also pledged to make sure votes were counted. Then they surrendered without putting up a fight in the overtime phase. That was most disappointing, more so than Gore’s concession in 2000. Did Skull and Bones members blackmail Kerry into conceding without a real fight?

Perhaps Kerry simply foresaw the inevitable result, but he still could have seen the counting of provisional ballots through to the end. It would have raised some more awareness about the problems with Diebold and possibility of vote tampering. It would have shown Bush-Cheney that Democrats weren’t backing down, especially with so many questions about vote reliability and reports of Republican voter suppression and dirty tricks.
But Kerry called for unity with the Evil Empire. Why is it that Democrats are always trying to call for unity and compromise with Republicanazis? As Carolyn Kay with MakeThemAccountable.com said, we have to completely remake the Democratic Party. We have to learn from right wingers to “take a licking and come back kicking. It is absolutely essential that as soon as possible we pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and start working to take over the Democratic Party. It has lost its moorings, and because of that it is losing elections, over and over and over again.”
Sure, the deck was stacked against Kerry. Perhaps the last week of bad news for Bush, the Washington Redskins loss, the exit polls, and other omens that seemed to spell a Kerry victory were mere ploys by Rove to make his side work harder and our side slack off a bit.
One thing I know: We have to keep fighting these cheating thieves, not try to make peace with them. And I hope many people on our side won’t move away – though I realize moving out of the country is the ultimate protest and I understand that choice. We all have to figure out what is the best path to take for ourselves.
As for me, I’m staying in the belly of the beast, in the shadow of the Evil Empire, to continue to sucker punch it in its bloated, bullshit-filled gut. Starting now, just as many conservatives boycotted France for its correct stance against the Iraqi invasion, I’m boycotting the state of Texas, where I lived for 40 years before moving to friendlier and more progressive confines last year. Bush got his political start in Texas, where the Republicanazis imposed a redistricting scheme that made that far-right state even more Republican. Every statewide official is a Republican there. The Texas Republican Party platform reads like a nazi playbook, even calling for getting out of the UN, abolishing numerous federal agencies, making homosexuality a crime and teaching the Bible in public schools.
Enough is enough. Fuck Texas and the horses that Bush and Cheney rode in on.
And fuck Diebold, too.
As for you, Sen. Kerry, I appreciate your hard work, your intelligence, your dedication to this campaign, although I was disappointed by your finish. But, with all due respect, you know where you can stick your call for unity…..
Jackson Thoreau is a Washington, D.C.-area journalist/writer. The latest book to which he contributed, Big Bush Lies, was published by RiverWood Books of Ashland, Ore., and is available at bookstores across the country. He can be contacted at jacksonthor@yahoo.com or jacksonthor@juno.com. Read more of Jackson's writing at Jackson Thoreau Article Archive


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https://voteprotect.org/index.php?display=EIRMapCounty&state=Florida&county=Leon&cat=ALL&tab=FP04 LOOK AS ASSOC W/ ga

http://www.votersunite.org/takeaction.asp


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John Zogby, pollster, analysis: http://www.zogby.com/soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=10398

".....The facts as I see them now defy all logical explanations save one--massive and systematic vote fraud. We cannot accept the result of the 2004 presidential election as legitimate until these discrepancies are rigorously and completely explained. From the Valerie Plame case to the horrors of Abu Ghraib, George Bush has been reluctant to seek answers and assign accountability when it does not suit his purposes. But this is one time when no American should accept not getting a straight answer. Until then, George Bush is still, and will remain, the ‘Accidental President' of 2000. One of his many enduring and shameful legacies will be that of seizing power through two illegitimate elections conducted on his brother's watch, and engineering a fundamental corruption at the very heart of the greatest democracy the world has known...."


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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:11 PM
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14. wasn't the NAACP bought off over Florida's "felons list" . . .
after the 2000 election? . . . as I recall, they had a lawsuit in the works over the Florida list that disqualified 93,000 (or whatever the number was) voters, the proponderance of whom were minorities . . . there was a settlement sometime in early 2001, I believe, that caused the NAACP to drop their lawsuit . . . anyone remember the details? . . .
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:38 PM
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19. here is part of letter I just sent to NAACP
Marsha V. Hammond, PhD: Licensed Psychologist: GA & NC
545 Oakland Ave., S.E. Atlanta, GA 30312 and 168 Virginia Avenue, Asheville, NC 28806
e mail: hammondmv@netzero.com
cell phone: 404 964 5338

November 15, 2004

Hello:

I am writing to you so as to solicit you to become involved in the voting fraud and voting irregularities that have taken place. I know a good bit about you as I am from Atlanta and live in the black community there. PLEASE DISSEMINATE THIS INFORMATION WIDELY.

I picked up this e mail this morning on http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=52197#52263

The writer stated this which was indeed reflected by no presence of the matter on your web site. You're a critical point of contact, a liason, if you will, between the black and white community. I have spend dozens of hours registering the black vote in Asheville, NC this past summer and fall. This matter concerns me greatly.

Hi-
I'm in Atlanta on business and just had a conversation with someone from the NAACP who are meeting here this week. I asked what he thought of the election (after sharing that I'd worked with the NAACP and Election Protection in Florida). He said he felt terrible about the election results and that something was "very strange". I then took the liberty of sharing with him what many of us know about the "strange" election and about Black Box voting, etc. He said there had been conversation about the possibility of tampering last week, but that no one had any idea of what could be done. He was flabbergasted to learn that there was work going on to expose the fraud and promised to spread the word to his colleagues. I gave him links, took his info to send him more info- but it hit me that WE NEED TO GET THEM INVOLVED- and fast. I still can't figure out where Rev. Jackson and Al Sharpton have gone and why they are so quiet about the millions who were once again, disenfranchised- but perhaps we should start collectively to blast the NAACP and other minority rights and activist groups with factual information. This could be another avenue to get the word out which is what we need most of all right now.

What do you all think? Can anyone help get this started with links/contacts, etc. Anyone connected with the NAACP or any other groups like this that we know would be interested in learning the truth?

THE CONGRESSPERSON, FROM MI, WHO IS COORDINATING THIS IS JOHN CONYERS. HE NEEDS TO HEAR FROM YOU. Attached please find the congressional letter asking for an investigation (November 5, 2004). http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/gaoinvestvote2004ltr11504.pdf

Here is a letter I wrote to AJC newspaper reporter yesterday asking her to become involved in the investigation of voter fraud and voting irregularities. As you undoubtedly know, the election associated with Chambliss and Perdue was hacked. Here is the associated information:

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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:42 PM
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20. HERE IS Africana/ SNCC letter
To: letters@africana.com
Subject: URGENT: voter fraud/ irregularities investigation
Cc: hammondmv@netzero.com

Marsha V. Hammond, PhD: 168 Virginia Avenue, Asheville, NC 28806 e mail: hammondmv@netzero.com cell phone: 404 964 5338

Please circulate this widely

Hello:

Being an Atlanta native and having registered over 1000 black voters this past summer and fall, I am urgently asking you to become involved in these matters. I have just written the NAACP as they apparently had no idea about all of this.

The congressperson who is very involved in this is John Conyers, (D), MI; here is the letter that went out November 5 asking for a Congresional investigation. (the letter: http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/gaoinvestvote2004ltr11504.pdf

He is asking for everyone's input. That would depend on the state you are in. However, more generally, the country's election has been stolen. If you are in OH, NM, FL, NC----you have specific concerns which are outlined here: http://www.nov2truth.org/

Please call him OR interface with this web site of his: Report all voter iregularities to Mr. Conyers and The House Committee on the Judiciary-Democratc Members here:

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/contact.html


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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:47 PM
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21. Listen to MLK here: 'heart full of grace'
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 12:57 PM
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22. I posted to other sites also
well, i posted to lots of sites...even found a yahoo group 'blackvoteforkerry' and sent them info.

I am in contact with the brothers and sisters in Asheville, NC---though I'm not one.

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Dolphyn Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 01:42 PM
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23. Check out this document at naacp.org
http://www.naacp.org/news/2004/2004-11-01.doc

It was published before the election, but it shows without a doubt that the NAACP is aware of, and concerned about, election problems.

It does strike me as rather odd that they apparently haven't issued any post-election statements.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:40 PM
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30. They sent out a mailing after the election.
I wrote on the donation stub--get the KKK out of the White House. I heard on NPR before the election that the IRS had targeted them for auditing because of anti-Bush statements which invalidate their non-political non-profit status.

They were on C-Span talking about all the election lawsuits they were filing.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:25 PM
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27. You guys ROCK! Great work with all the postings!
I have to run to a meeting- but wow- you are amazing. Just read that Ohio Recount is on - http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/1115-06.htm from the front page!

Bye and thanks!
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 02:25 PM
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28. You guys ROCK! Great work with all the postings!
I have to run to a meeting- but wow- you are amazing. Just read that Ohio Recount is on - http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/1115-06.htm from the front page!

Bye and thanks!
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