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AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 04:50 PM
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Simple Math Revisited - What do you MEAN not enough votes?
Edited on Mon Nov-15-04 04:52 PM by AmyCrat
My original post (below) explored how easy this election could be overturned because of "glitches".

I started playing with percentages a bit.

In a county of 600, 4000 extra votes were added for Bush.

That means 666% more votes were added in error.
(to get this fiqure, 4000 is divided by 600 for 6.66)

So lets take a look as some Bush totals and see what it would mean if his votes were mistakenly increased by 666%.

Nationally: 59,459,765 ÷ 6.66 = 8,927,892
meaning 8,927,892 of the 59,459,765 were "glitched" in

In Ohio: 2,796,147 ÷ 6.66 = 419,841 extra votes
meaning 419,841 of the 2,796,147 were "glitched" in

In Florida: 3,911,825 ÷ 6.66 = 587,361 extra votes
meaning 587,361 of the 3,911,825 were "glitched" in

Pretty Interesting, huh?

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Original Post:

I am far from a mathmetician. Math is not my strong suit

That said, I am SICK of hearing people say "yeah, but even if fraud occurred there aren't enough votes to overturn the 3.5 million lead Bush has.

Here's some SIMPLE math to consider for other numerically challenged individuals like myself.

In Ohio, in one LITTLE precinct where there were 600 registered voters, an extra 4000 votes were added (chalked up to a "glitch"). This is already been reported widely and Ohio has already stated that extras won't appear in the final results (in other words it's proven).

There are literally 10s or thousands of precincts in the United States.

This was 1 precinct.

1 precinct x 4,000 votes = 4000 extra votes.

100 precincts x 4,000 votes = 400,000 extra votes.

300 precincts x 4,000 votes = 1,200,000 extra votes.

500 precincts x 4,000 votes = 2,000,000 extra votes.

1,000 precincts x 4,000 votes = 4,000,000 extra votes.



1,000 precincts would only account for 10% of 10,000 precincts, and there are approx 175,000 voting precincts in the United States. ("There are 175,000 voting precincts in the U.S., according to the Federal Election Commission, which means it will cost nearly $1 billion to outfit them all with touch-screen booths." -Forbes.com http://www.forbes.com/2000/11/17/1117votesolution.html )

175,000 x 10% = 17,500 precincts

But lets give them the benefit of the doubt and say this only happened in 1% of precincts.

175,000 x 1% = 1,750 precincts

1,750 precincts x 4,000 votes = 7,000,000 extra votes.

7 million. A nice even number.

It doesn't look so far fetched now that "extra votes" COULD amount to changing the outcome, does it?

And that's if you only add "extra votes" in 1% of the precincts in the United States.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 04:55 PM
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1. 666% is pretty appropriate, given that he is the AntiPrez...
and of course there are enough votes for Kerry.
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Hobbes199 Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 06:38 PM
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6. AntiPrez
Never liked the AntiChrist label, because it implies that he isn't just a misguided miscreant. But AntiPrez, I love that one.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 04:56 PM
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2. With partial BBV
we had ALL methods energetically employed no matter what the risk in public perception or criminal prosecution(hah). Many BBV methods were employed besides the one you are tabulating. Almost all favor Bush.

We will move close to 80% of the vote going this way AND, let's not forget, the ever approaching online voting scam.

Good ole USA. Everything hunky dory here as well as the dumbest victorious voting bloc in world history thanks to the utter failure of major media and niche brainwashing.

Let's hear it for the international commissions who still preface and finish their remarks in praise of the world's "strongest democracy".

LOL with tears for humankind.
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bj2110 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 05:04 PM
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3. See the thread I started about my local county & precinct...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x52596

In Florida, the vote margin was lke 366,000 votes. This means if there were 183,000 Kerry votes that somehow got recorded as Bush votes, we have a dead heat. There are 4258 precincts in the state which used touchscreen voting machines, at around 1000 votes each on average. This means only 43 votes per touchscreen precinct had to be recorded wrong for the entire state to be a dead heat.

Now tell me, how easy is it to overlook 43 votes in a precinct?


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IAMREALITY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 05:17 PM
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4. With All Due Respect, Your Math is Wayyyyyy Off
"Nationally: 59,459,765 ÷ 6.66 = 8,927,892
meaning 8,927,892 of the 59,459,765 were "glitched" in


No, that means all he got was 8,927,892 votes, and that 50,531,872 were glitched in. Ain't buyin that one LOL
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bj2110 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 05:32 PM
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5. Yeah, I overlooked that one... this post needs to be edited...
But the message is clear and valid.
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AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 07:26 PM
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7. I've admitted my math skills aren't great...

Anyone know the right way to figure it out if I'm wrong? Where's our resident mathmetician? ;)
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