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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:19 AM
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RAW EXIT POLL DATA versus RESULTS 2000
Recieved this by email.. not sure if from a DUer.. if so this
might be a dupe..



RAW EXIT POLL DATA versus RESULTS 2000

The following is some allegedly "raw" poll data from
the 2000 Election as
listed by freerepublic.com.  As I understand it, these are the
"final"
exit poll 
numbers, taken late in the day.

                FLORIDA
exit poll:                  Bush 47       Gore 50
actual result:              Bush 48.8    Gore 48.8
shift:                      Bush 3%

                NEW HAMPSHIRE
exit poll:                     Bush 48      Gore 47
actual result:              Bush 48.2    Gore 47.8
shift:                      Gore .6%

                MICHIGAN
exit poll:                     Bush 46      Gore 50
actual result:              Bush 46.4    Gore 51.1
shift:                      Gore .7%

                MISSOURI
exit poll:                     Bush 49      Gore 46
actual result:              Bush 50.4    Gore 47.1
shift:                      Bush .3%

                ARKANSAS
exit poll:                     Bush 50      Gore 47
actual result:              Bush 51.3    Gore 45.7
shift:                      Bush 2.6%

                TENNESSEE
exit poll:                     Bush 50      Gore 47
actual result:              Bush 51.2    Gore 46.2
shift:                      Bush 2%

                PENNSYLVANIA
exit poll:                     Bush 48      Gore 48
actual result:              Bush 46.4    Gore 50.6
shift:                      Gore 4.2%

                NEW MEXICO
exit poll:                     Bush 48      Gore 46
actual result:              Bush 47.9    Gore 47.9
shift:                      Gore 2%

                MINNESOTA
exit poll:                     Bush 46      Gore 46
actual result:              Bush 45.5    Gore 47.9
shift:                      Gore 2.4%

                WISCONSIN
exit poll:                     Bush 50      Gore 45
actual result:              Bush 47.6    Gore 47.8
shift:                      Gore 5%

                IOWA
exit poll:                     Bush 50      Gore 47
actual result:              Bush 48.2    Gore 48.5
shift:                      Gore 3.3%

                NEVADA
exit poll:                     Bush 48      Gore 44
actual result:              Bush 49.5    Gore 46.0
shift:                      Gore .5%

The only discrepancies that really jump out at you among this
data are the
ones in Pennsylvania (Gore shift: 4.2%), Wisconsin (Gore
shift: 5%), Iowa
(Gore 
shift 3.3%), and Florida (Bush shift 3%).  So, the biggest
shift was 
definitely in Wisconsin (Gore, 5%).

Now look at the shifts in the 2004 election, among some
battleground
states.  
Here, we are using exit poll data as provided by the Election
Pool (shown
on 
cnn.com, msnbc.com, etc...), and we are once again looking at
exit polls
taken 
late in the day on Nov. 2nd, 2004.  NOTE: these exit polls
were, in fact,
weighted to accurately represent an appropriate proportion of
women to
men.  It 
would be interesting to see the data first-hand, but the
Election Poll
refuses 
to release the original exit poll data for further
examination.  

                NEW HAMPSHIRE
exit poll:              Bush 44.1    Kerry 54.9
actual result:            Bush 49.0   Kerry 50.3
shift:                     Bush 9.5%

                OHIO
exit poll:              Bush 47.9    Kerry 52.1
actual result:            Bush 51.0   Kerry 48.5
shift:                     Bush 6.7%

                PENNSYLVANIA
exit poll:              Bush 45.4    Kerry 54.1
actual result:            Bush 48.6   Kerry 50.8
shift:                     Bush 6.5%

                MINNESOTA
exit poll:              Bush 44.5    Kerry 53.5
actual result:            Bush 47.6   Kerry 51.1
shift:                     Bush 5.5%

                FLORIDA
exit poll:              Bush 49.8    Kerry 49.7
actual result           Bush 52.1    Kerry 47.1
shift:                     Bush 4.9%

                NEVADA
exit poll:              Bush 47.9    Kerry 49.2
actual result:            Bush 50.5   Kerry 47.9
shift:                     Bush 3.9%

                NEW MEXICO
exit poll:              Bush 47.5    Kerry 50.1
actual result:            Bush 50.0   Kerry 58.9
shift:                     Bush 3.7%

                COLORADO
exit poll:              Bush 49.9    Kerry 48.1
actual result:            Bush 52.0   Kerry 46.8
shift:                     Bush 3.4%

                WISCONSIN
exit poll:              Bush 48.8    Kerry 49.2
actual result:            Bush 49.4   Kerry 49.8
shift:                     No shift

As you can see, the only state where the outcome matched the
exit poll's
prediction is Wisconsin.  New Hampshire, Ohio, Pennsylvania,
Minnesota,
and 
Florida all reveal some fairly large shifts ranging from 4.9%
and 9.5%,
and they're 
all in Bush's favor.   What's more, certain non-battleground
states, such
as 
Nebraska, New York, North Carolina, and Delaware also show a
Bush shift
ranging 
from 8% to 10%.  Those are pretty huge shifts.  

Either the exit pollsters are phenomenally incompetent,
phenomenally
corrupt, 
or there has been a huge mistabulation and/or fraud in this
election.

Let's ask ourselves:  What has changed significantly over the
last fifty
years?  The methods by which we conduct exit polls or the
methods by which
we 
count the votes.

It's the methods by which we count the votes.
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TennisGuy2004 Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:25 AM
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1. Hey there.
Hi guys. This was my post - I posted it on the "Kerry will win" thread as well. Glad to see it made it. Kind of funny how the only place on the entire internet where I could find the original exit poll figures from 2000 was on freerepulic.com, eh?

These are real figures.
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:40 AM
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4. Can you post a link.. and can I post this on Scoop...
I thought it must have been from a DUer. I think it is a very useful contribution to the debate.

And what else are the Freepers saying about all this.
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TennisGuy2004 Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:58 AM
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7. Link to freerepublic exit poll data from 2000
Here's the link (also listed below on another one of my replies):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1265291/posts
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:26 AM
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2. It would be interesting to check out the exit polls
from the Senate races because my understanding is that they were alot more accurate - if this is true why would the Senate race exit polls be accurate and the Presidential exit polls be so off - unless they messed with the vote - which is exactly what happened....
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 12:31 AM
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3. I have the house race figures but only by region...
Do we know which states are in the Midwest, West, East & South. If so we can at least do the first level of this analysis.

Great idea...
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c-macdonald Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 01:06 AM
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5. where did the data come from?
I just did a search at freerepublic.com and I couldn't find it...do you happen to have a link or anything?
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TennisGuy2004 Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 03:54 AM
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6. How I found the data:
I found it by doing a web search with the words, "raw exit poll 2000" (I think). In fact, here's the link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1265291/posts

Take care all!
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BlueDog2u Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 08:04 AM
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8. Excellent work.
Kick!
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