Kerry campaigning for 2008 already?

I just got an email with this link to a letter, video and petition regarding healthcare:

Sounds like a campaign speech with promises to reform voting.

http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/everychild.php

#1-The Voting in this Country needs a major overhaul

#2-Howard DEAN!!

It looks like he is going to make voting reform and health care major issues for the next round of elections if not 2008.

Now is not the time to debate who would be the next candidate in my opinion.

but this was my response to the letter - won't make any difference but it felt good

Dear Mr. Kerry,

This election is not over yet and I am deeply offended that after promising that every vote would count and every vote would be counted you are asking me to move on without addressing the overwhelming evidence of vote fraud on November 2. This election was stolen - you won! And if this election is allowed to stand it will no longer make any difference how much we mobilize, how we refine our message, how strongly we make our case - you or any candidate the Democrats run in 2008 will lose 51%-48% because the election will be rigged. We no longer live in a representative democracy - they had elections in the Soviet Union too and they were as credible as this one that you seem far too eager to put behind you. Why aren't you supporting the effort to count every vote in Ohio and Florida? If every vote is actually counted and all irregularities resolved and you actually did get fewer votes then we can still have faith in our democracy. As it stands now the millions of us who are paying attention have lost that faith. I am confident that, like all the other emails I have sent to your campaign over the past year, will be ignored. Why?

Very Disappointed,

I know we are reduced to grasping at straws at this point but the way he emphasized it I felt he might be sending a message. Watch the video.

and i want so badly to believe you're right
the only thing that gets me up in the morning these days is the ohio recount - thanks for understanding

Fabulous letter, well stated, glad you sent it. I feel the same way.

I'll tell you this - I would never, ever vote for John Kerry again. I spent the last 6 months passionately convincing every human being I came into contact with to vote for Kerry. I did that because - even though I disagreed with him - from the Left, in my case - he struck me as a fighter and a man of integrity.

So much for that. It's appalling.

I voted for Kerry even though my heart was Green. I will NOT make that mistake again. The Democratic Party is bankrupt when it comes to progressive politics. Just look who's leading the fight against election fraud now? I think it's time to move over to the Green side. It's the only real progressive party in the country.

as long as you realize if you vote Green, you'll never vote for a winning presidential candidate for the rest of your life.

...I really do. But until the Democrats present a passionate alternative, then voting Democratic will mean never voting for a winning presidential candidate for the rest of my life.

We need a mass anti-corporate movement in the U.S. Because corporations control everything: our health care, the food we eat, our medical establishment, all the regulatory bodies (FDA, Energy, Environment), our foreign policy, and now they control the voting process itself.

But the Democratic party is not out there critisizing the corporations because it's their base, too. They are just a bit "softer" than the Republicans. But if you don't stand for something, forcefully, you will lose. Just look at this last election - Kerry should have decimated this president. Bush has been a TERRIBLE president. It should have been so far apart that stealing votes wouldn't have saved him. But people voted for Bush because "he stood for something". This is an important point that can't be dismissed too quickly, I think.

We need a mass movement to stop this slide towards fascism, which Mussolini described as "the corporate state". The Democrats are not going to stop it. In fact, they will move to the center and help it along.

Just my two cents. I think we need to take this wonderful, non-corporate, truly democratic blogosphere and build the Greens to the point where they become a powerful political force. Just like the Christian Right has been able to do. It's very possible. I'm afraid the DNC is dead.

I was born a Democrat, raised a Democrat, but I, too, after a few years, began to think that the Democratic Party was worthless with regards to progressivism. I moved over to the Green Party, I attended their caucuses and tried to convince everybody I knew that third parties are not "spoilers" (I still believe that, actually), but proof of democracy at work.

Then Paul Wellstone died.

And the event begged the question, "Who is going to carry on the spirit of progressive politics in the Democratic Party? Who can do it?" So I, with much complaining from my Green friends, came back to the Democrats. It's akin to moving to Canada or staying in the United States; yes, things are bad now, but we are the only ones that can change them. Who is going to stand up for the types of values and goals Wellstone had, if not us? Yes, it's difficult to stand up to the moderates and Republican-lite leaders that the Democrats have right now- but that doesn't justify giving up the fight. One person, one person can change the course, can return the Democratic Party to its roots, one Paul Wellstone, one Howard Dean, but we'll never achieve that if we don't stay and work for it.

I can't stop you from voting Green from now on, or Socialist, or Independent or whatever else have you, but I can urge you to continue to stand as a proud Democrat, a progressive Democrat, a part of the "Democratic wing of the Democratic Party." We need people like you; the real visionaries, those that can truly change things. If I were to say one thing and one thing only on this subject, it would be that there's room enough in this party for you and others like you. Please stay and fight for what we, as true Democrats, believe in.

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

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Regardless of the outcome of this election, once all the votes are counted -- and they will be counted -- we will continue to challenge this administration. This is not a time for Democrats to retreat and accommodate extremists on critical principles -- it is a time to stand firm.


I will fight for a national standard for federal elections that has both transparency and accountability in our voting system. It's unacceptable in the United States that people still don't have full confidence in the integrity of the voting process.

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For those looking for one it appears to be a veiled message. For those who have given up on him it makes them want to scream. I am sort of in the middle. I haven't given up hope completely yet that he will fight, but I am close to it.

i was so distracted by the basic 'moving forward' message that i didn't read the message between the lines - there is still hope

He's given up? Don't know.

potential read between the lines material in there , in fact the whole video seems to be packed with it, but then that could well be because we are looking for it. Anything can be between the lines if you look hard enough I suppose.

I met Clinton in 1992 just before he was going to do a TV appearance and he had more makeup on than a stage actor.

He said A LOT OF things that, to me, sounded like he was directing his words more toward what's going on with the 'grassroots' effort to bring the election into question.

I want everyone to watch this video again, if you haven't seen it already, watch it at least twice. Take note of when his voice gets louder. Think about everything he is saying.

I am of couse one of the hopefuls, but I am pretty good at picking up on tones and body language, etc.

"Your efforts count NOW more than ever." "I'm turning to YOU".

this subtly obvious why not just come out and go fully public? Another point is was he expecting this effort somehow or is he merely reacting to it - and if he is encouraging is he actually going to be able to add anything or is it entirely down to the grass roots - it raises far more questions than answers and that's just from reading between the lines

Either it is a message or I have fallen into the tinfoil hat zone.

No offense intended but if we cannot win a GOP controlled election in 2000 and 2004 what makes you think we could win one in 2008. Nothing would make me happier but you'll not find me getting excited about any election when the fix is already in even before any candidates announces. It's my opinion the GOP has a blood oath to keep any democrat out of the white house and control of congress in perpetuity.

and missed the whole point. Try watching it first.

We need leadership in opposing this right wing extremism that infects our nation. Kerry as our standard bearer this year is the logical person to step forward. During the past four years I kept waiting for the opposition party to actually oppose. Gore did that late with his Move On sponsored speeches but the timing was too late to get much attention, especially from our corporate media. Kerry has made mistakes but unlike the other guy I think he learns from his mistakes. It will not be easy. If he takes this on, I for one will be grateful to him without regard to who I think should be our candidate in 2008. We have a lot to do before then.

it is crystal clear from his speech that he is WELL AWARE of the voting controversy AND is HARD AT WORK not only resolving this election, but looking to protect future elections.

He is passionate about the issues he holds dear and want's to encourage our participation. He want's to keep a movement going. A new version of DFA perhaps?

Regardless ... Bravo to JK!

That man looks serious to me. He knows what we are up against(probably with a cherry on top more than any of us do here) and he doesn't want us to give up. And I get that-it's pretty easy to want to roll over and give up, or move to Canada.

I took it as a call to be the same hard ass, passionate and even meaner than wheels Democrats that we have been inspired to become.

Mine is totally different. I see him as carrying on in his job, afterall (he is a f*cking Senator) and following through with his campaign promises. He is being a statesman. He mentions the votes being counted.

Please remember that Kerry was a prosecutor. Prosecutors are used to having the investigations into crimes such as fraud done in secret. White collar crimes such as those involved in this election are generally investigated for months by grand juries, secretive bodies that meet to review the evidence, subpoena for more evidence, listen to testimony of investigators, et cetera. Most prosecutors do not rush to file the charges of the crime until the evidence is developed.