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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 09:35 PM
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Palm Beach, Florida precinct results
the link can be found on this page. The page with the results on it is in excel format so it takes a couple of minutes to load. There are apparently precincts with no votes at all and some with one or two. Maybe someone would like to look it over.
It's in the section called "Election Results"

<http://www.pbcelections.org/results.htm>
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L84TEA Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 09:38 PM
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1. could some one post them?
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Chili Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 09:40 PM
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2. ugh... and the first thing you see when you click on that link...
...is Theresa LaPore.

Here's the direct link to the spreadsheet:

http://www.pbcelections.org/ElectionResults/2004/General/GENERAL2004.xls
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:07 PM
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3. Results
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 10:33 PM by Oreo
I used the sum function in Excel to come up with the following

Bush: 212578
Kerry: 328553

That was by adding the totals they show.
Looking at them it's pretty easy to see weird stuff.
It shows more people voted than were registered for all 3 categories.
The categories are Provisional, Absentee, and Voting Machine. The numbers don't add up unless I'm missing something.

Reg turnout total Bush Kerry
Provisional 0 983 1041 463 519
Absentee 0 91039 91802 37800 52792
Voting Machine 0 49635 49831 13904 35551

Bush: 52167
Kerry: 88862
I have to say I'm no expert at what exactly this shows and for those who cant see it, it lists 693 precincts and the results for each.

When I do a sum for the results of each precinct without the above categories I come up with this:
Bush: 160411
Kerry: 239691
with 729575 registered

When I include the categories I get this:
Bush: 212578
Kerry: 328553
with 729575 registered and 544378 voting

How do the 3 categories fit? What is Voting Machine if it's not already counted? How bad am I at math?

I'm sure somebody can pin this down better but it just doesn't add up.

I also suggest saving this spreadsheet... it may change!!

Added:
I'm editing this as I go back over it. Can somebody figure out the percentage differences of the 3 categories, just the precincts, and then the 3 categories and the precincts? Shouldn't these differences be at least close? It looks to me like the percentage difference is closer in the 3 categories where the numbers look weird. I really was never good at math.... seriously


more:
so what is the diff btw turnout and total?
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Zurg Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:24 PM
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8. Voting Machine column =
I assume it's the early voting tally.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:48 PM
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18. Hi Zurg!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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floridadem30 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:13 PM
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4. kick
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:14 PM
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5. Lot's of precincts with no results - holy cow Batman
Here's the list of precincts with 0 returns:

1002
1003
1006
1019
1033
2004
2040
2049
4022
6066
6062
6182
6194
7004
7044
7162


The following precincts had only 1 vote each:


1144
1208
2079
7019
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:17 PM
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6. registered voters?
Are the # of registered voters for those precincts listed? (I don't have EXCEL on this computer) ta
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 10:20 PM
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7. but look at
the number of registered voters for those precincts. It's not like there were 500 people registered and nobody voted. The only thing that could come of this is if there are in fact more people registered in those precincts than are listed.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 11:09 PM
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9. Kick
:kick: :kick:
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 11:24 PM
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10. Thanks. I don't have Excel on this computer so didn't know if registered
. . .voters were included in your data.

Is there a column for US Senate and House in the EXCEL sheet? If so, are there any cast? (A drag not to have Excel on this computer - I may have to add it.) :-)
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 11:27 PM
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11. I just looked at the registered voter data
http://www.pbcelections.org/News/pct.htm

According to that report, these precincts with the zeros either don't exist or have any registered voters. There are some precincts with just one or two registered voters also.

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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 11:28 PM
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12. I don't have excel either.
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 11:36 PM
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13. "Why have small precincts" question was an OH thread too.
Edited on Fri Nov-19-04 11:37 PM by Lil
I don't know why either. It might possibly be to create room for new regitered voters. I really speak with no knowledge, however.

In 2000 I did some work on the FL precincts, so I was asking about the Senate and House seats because of some possible flipping we "thought" might have been present in 2000.

If there are registered votes and no votes cast = red flag.
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flpeach Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-19-04 11:40 PM
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14. This election was rigged . . .
Pure and simple. They must have had classes for the nerds who did the hacking . . . whistleblowing would be nice now.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 01:57 AM
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15. Kick this again
:kick:
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:04 PM
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16. How could there be precincts with no votes?
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:11 PM
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17. When were these precincts formed? That's the real question.
If these are new precincts, and people showed up at their old precincts and were told they could not vote there, maybe they decided not to vote, maybe it was too much trouble, maybe they got discouraged.

It would also be interesting to know the demographics of these zero-count precincts as far as income level, education level, race, et cetera. We know that suppressing or skimming a few votes here and few votes there adds up to a lot of votes.

There might be nothing to it. But it makes me curious as to whether this zero-count precinct phenomenon occurred in all battleground states, especially Ohio and Pennsylvania.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:31 AM
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19. Big Kick!
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:43 AM
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20. The numbering on these precincts changed somtime after 2001
Edited on Sun Nov-21-04 01:48 AM by Lil
Sorry about no Excel at the moment, but there are no precinct totals in html on the wesite after 2001 so I can't tell.

If you have Excel, you can check them in the "precinct totals" in Excel here to see when the precinct numbers changed to the straight numerical such as 1000 etc.
http://www.pbcelections.org/results.htm

The old precinct are like this at least through 2001:

0001
001A
001B
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