Can a DU'er confirm this? Jeff Fisher website is hacked?

I have no link on this AND I don't know if it is true or not. I'm asking if any other Democratic Underground member has heard about it and can anyone confirm or deny it? I just want to know is this truthful or is this someone over reacting?

posted at commongroundcommonsense by Activisms
http://www.commongroundcommonsense.org/index.php?showtopic=5707
"John,

They hacked into my site. I can't access it.

They are playing hardball. I need help with this problem. The bastards will
not win. I will continue to tell the truth.

Jeff Fisher
please call 561-889-2165

spread the word about what they have done."

i've seen on blackboxvoting.org that same post. i tried going to the site and it doesn't work.. so there is a possibility that it was hacked. maybe he put some sensitive information on his site earlier and they shut him down. not sure though...

ring ring ring ring ring

"Thank you for calling the "community" (-?) to elect Jeff Fisher."

operator lady voice: "Sorry, that mailbox is full."

Dial tone.

The poster at that site claimed it was a personal message they received from Jeff Fisher. I'm still not for sure on if I trust it without a link. I'll check back though in the morning. I figure if anyone can get to the bottom of this and find out the truth it is Democratic Underground. Be rational and be safe.

for example:
The link for shortcut -
To call/fax Congressman (D) Robert Wexler
is labeled -
file:///c|/my%20documents/campaign2006/congressflorida.htm#wexler

instead of http://www.jefffisherforcongress.com/campaign2006/congressflorida.htm#wexler

Scrambled (trojan or some such?) or entirely gone, if you put in the right headers it still doesn't come up.


hummm... some of the correctly labeled ones don't come up either.

Anyone tried calling it?

this one?

Jeff Fisher
561-889-2165

I think he needs a comp whiz from around here, I can cobble stuff together but diagnose anything by phone. (I'm slow but I usually figure it out, someone else would help him out better). Curious isn't it? This guy has alot of drama going on in his world right now. But then again, don't we all this month?! Hope someone can help him out.

on the phone right now.

will report soon.

the link that i was given on bbv was incorrect. i didn't realize that the person who posted it put it as wwww.jefffisherforcongress.com (one too many w's there.. go figure, there always seems to be too many W's in this world! lol)

http://www.jefffisherforcongress.com is working for me.

try to click on the congressional numbers or the link that says Correction 11/18/04. Some work, some don't.

one reason why is because I've been trying to becareful.

jeezz...well, I I really don't know what to report. I was just told so many names and dates and times and incidents so quickly that I'm really not sure what to say.

I spoke with two people They are trying to repair Fisher's site but at my suggestion may initiate a new domain. They say that they have innumerable evidences of fraud and are in contact with various members of the DNC as well as other groups and are trying to work out the tiff over phrasing with Zeese.

Frankly, I'm not sure what I'm allowed to say. And I still cannot confess to being convinced by their story but encouranged them to (while the site is down) report updates here.

If you have any questions, I'll try to answer. That was probably the weirdest phone call I'll ever have in my life.

Sometimes too much info coming at you can be, well, hard to assimilate? (I don't know what to make of all of the stuff on his page, just trying to keep an open mind!). You're a good soul for trying to help.

and know that i've not been convinced of Fisher's story. It really seems too convenient to me. But I don't want to be a hypocrite so have tried to stay open. Fisher was as whispery as has been previously reported. And the other guy I spoke with really did sound like an agent, throaty, too sure, though we did bond over apparent mutual distate with Condi. I was given very condradictory imperatives towards keeping the story at ground level for now or rage towards the msm for not being on the story. I really dn't know what to believe and kind of wish I hadn't been the one to call...though maybe it's better to have a cynical intermediary. Dunno.

just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you don't have enemies (someone out to get you?). You never know, these are strange days.

I have some information that I've been trying to get someone to deal with or explain to me. I thought maybe I was making too big a deal about it (this started even before the election), but I took this info to our "no stolen elections" meeting last night and they were uh, shocked. We just don't know what to do with it.

When I saw a reference to this situation by Mr. Fisher it creeped me out, and I don't get creeped out easily.

What am I calling when I use that number? His office? Help please
Thanks

Or just post it here, there are some very smart people here that can decipher just about anything you throw at 'em?

http://www.tips@blackboxvoting.org

that would back up the story about using felons names to pad the vote. Right now we're playing who do you trust. I can't go local because we're currently trying to prove our SoS disenfranchised people by the thousands.

They are working with lawyers and frankly Fisher at present does not appear to be the most credible or reliable avenue.

I realize you can't tell us all the details, but please keep us posted on the progress of your decisions how to handle this. Tell us as much as you can without violating necessary confidence to insure the preservation and forwarding of your evidence.

Thanks! Good luck.

to both apprise them of the conversation and to check for their consensus. Math, I trust. And they are working with these facts, if they trust and endorse Fisher then I will certainly be more inclined to but as things stand, I'm in the same position as I was when Fisher's name was frist mentioned; none of my doubts nor any of my hopes have been confirmed as fact by this syndicate.

edit: I'll add that they they said they were recently informed by two separate media sources of information which confirms their story. And, while they named the outlets and one of the reporters did not even hint towards any specifics of what this info might be. Neither of them was Olbermann nor MSNBC, if you're wondering.


p.s.s. This reminds me of a moment in The House of Yes where Genevieve Bujold requests that her son guess what the topic of conversation is not previous to there ever having been a conversation.

You obviously have never tried to talk to my either of my daughters! (sorry, had to say it - it's really too late to be at DU but as someone said the first day I came here - this place is addictive!)

Max Semler of Straight School is apparently linked to Cybernet.

Just saying. Lots of smoke and mirrors around this one whenever it comes up here.

I noticed something was fishy about his website last nite although I didn't delve into exactly what was going on(my sinus medicine was taking effect) -- did anyone find out if it was indeed hacked?

Well if he gets it working -- which I'm sure he will -- I'll be happy to help him out in making sure his message gets out --

I've said it once -- I've said it again -- Fisher is the real deal...

My Mantra:
Go ahead with the challenges -- recounts -- law suits -- but get ready to rock and roll if this story comes out.

from Carl Brennan

I was at first looking at PMing this for private use, but I think its time the public see this.
Interestingly enough, Dr. Piotr Blass is not only significant and real, he has alot of resume background in Michigan state, and otherwise, is connected to a very interesting corporation known as CyberNET Venturs Inc.(which manages all of Cybernets divisions...)
In the allegations report, a certain vendor described that such a network company was financing the operation through Mel Sembler and a few other bad eggs connected to the head of the game map. Another company was described as giving source to certain code.....Turns out CyberN is indeed an open source code distributor to several organizations, ultimately not even limited to voting companies. Also turns out an employee named Guitterez works(or had worked) there and created actual databases for elections across the USA and easily the globe, that are certainly not MS Access.
http://engrm.com/personnel/gutierrez-alan/experiential.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=27340&mesg_id=65810&page=

The .html was left off and it gets an error message. Try this:

http://engrm.com/personnel/gutierrez-alan/experiential.html

Now that that's done, what exactly does this resume mean? I'm slow. ;) Please enlighten me.

I fixed it. I'm kinda slow this morning too, maybe Carl has an idea at this point but it looks promising and thought I would share.

I saw it a couple of days ago -- there's a long thread on here discussing it... after I finished reading it I was so confused I didn't know what to think. All I know is Fisher's story holds water -- somewhere posted today there was a report that someone said the over and under ballots in Ohio would not be counted if a hand recount should occur... that statement strikes me as odd for three reasons.

1) Ohio has a detailed uniform standard for deciding voter intent, if you're not going to even count them why is this standard on the books?
2) There have been several reports by election officials of seeing nearly 1000 people come in to vote ... and then finding out nearly half of them cast no vote for President.
3) Over and under votes manipulated through code, the machine randomly throws out good votes as no votes is one of the ways Fisher says they rigged the vote.

Put that with the huge, nearly impossible turnout of Republicans in FL -- Jeb's DOCUMENTED crusade to leave felon's on the voter rolls

I don't need a connection between this CyberNET and this Sembler and Blass guy to believe something fishy is going on and Fisher's story has legs -- but it sure helps.

Someone suggested that I post this info here. I started a thread on it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=66014#66093

It's about someone who might be a potential whistleblower. I'll re-post part of it here:

Board Of Elections Worker Resigns

Worker Doesn't Give Reason For Resignation

POSTED: 5:52 pm EDT October 24, 2004
CLEVELAND -- The Cuyahoga County Board of Elections said the woman in charge of the absentee ballots resigned, NewsChannel5 reported.

Board of Elections Director Michael Vu said Sondra Robinson did not say why she was resigning.

Robinson worked for the board of elections for three years.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/3845657/detail.html

9. I'm trying to be as careful as possible on this one

Eloriet, hedda, and others with them are working through this meticulously and methodically.

I was told that they'd heard from I dunno some word was thrown out meaning "higher-ups" that not much was being uncovered in the NH recount. I asked why Nader would have done it there if he didn't suspect he'd find something and they said they didn't know.