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Owlet Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:59 AM
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Election Fraud Map


Kevin Baas has a statistical take on the election here

Wikipedia has a LOONG thread on the election Wikipedia
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:10 AM
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1. electronic voting
Wherever electronic voting machines (DREs) manufactured by the
big three (Diebold, ES&S, and Sequoia) are used, the
elections are skewed toward Repubs, whether or not one
candidate or another wins. This has been absolutely clear and
transparent since 02. MN needs to have audits done on its
optical scanners. Mondale's loss in 02 was due to the skewing
occasioned by ES&S scanners, just as Max Cleland's loss
came from the Diebold touchscreens in GA. Until this issue
becomes the PARAMOUNT issue for Democrats and for all of any
party who want to regain democracy in the US, the elections
will continue to show skewed results and the Repubs will
continue to increase their majority in Congress and throughout
the country. Even here in KS, which uses ES&S scanners
primarily and Diebold touchscreens in Johnson County, the
largest), the elections would be much closer and eventually
Democrats would have an equal playing field if the results
were audited.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:08 AM
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3. So true nt
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:51 PM
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8. Hi Stevepol!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:32 PM
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9. Several Registered Democrats
In Johnson County, Kansas were informed that they were not on the register on election day, but they could vote with provisional ballots. Right after the election, they threw out a bunch of provisional ballots in Johnson County. It was very odd and strange how registered Democrats were suddenly missing from the register, until I looked at the website to check for registration status, which was hosted by DIEBOLD. That is one way to guarantee a win by the Republicans, don't let the Democratic Party vote.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:46 AM
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2. What we REALLY need is a map where all of the states are green.......
.......not as in the party, but colored green, to signify that each state has had an independent citizens audit of each type of vote casting and counting technology within that state of a statistically significant number of the original paper ballots to ensure that the count was correct to some pre-defined degree of reliability. :)

Unfortunately, that would require that every vote cast be done on a paper ballot so there was proof of each voters "original intent" via their own hand. :(

We "the people" must figure out a way to petition the government for our right to run our own elections without government interference in how the votes are counted. We must demand the right for the people to see every vote as cast, not some 'machine interpretation' delivered by a government employee telling us who won because 'the machines said so'.

Their our elections folks, not the government's.

We hold them to choose who the government will be. Don't EVER forget that! :evilgrin:
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:42 AM
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4. I think this is way understated.
They took 6-10 or more millions of votes. It was everywhere.
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drthais Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 09:17 AM
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5. about your key....
what is the purple for?
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:50 PM
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6. kick
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 12:51 PM
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7. And NC needs to go on the map for sure
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jdog Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:35 PM
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10. This is great!
Should probably start turning blue soon as more and more recounts are demanded.
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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:37 PM
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13. So does WV
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lizzieforkerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:37 PM
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11. Seriously, most of the colors aren't represented in the key.
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:37 PM
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12. I was wondering same thing.
nt
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:12 PM
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14. NC should be on the map
that is a major oversight not to have NC on there.
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:16 PM
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16. Yes, an actual investigation began there today.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:14 PM
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15. Minnesota should be up there
there are investigations going on and at least one recount
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