This is Why Recounts are Good: NH House Recount Show New Winner

While all eyes are on the effects a recount could do for the larger scale presidential race, they also can switch the out comes of many smaller races...

"Regardless of the outcome of this election, once all the votes are counted -- and they will be counted..."

JFK 2004

<<

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showfast.html?article=47294

Recount costs Carrara House seat
By WARREN HASTINGS
Concord Bureau



CONCORD — In a recount, Democrat Claudia Chase of Francestown beat out Republican Dario A. Carrara of Greenfield by four votes in the New Hampshire House District 2 election, officials announced.

The original count had Carrara defeating Chase 1,555 to 1,523 votes. The recount recast 36 votes, and showed Chase to be the winner by a 1,523 to 1,519 margin over Carrara.

"There are a number of scenarios that could have caused that to happen, but we think that a number of straight ticket ballots being miscounted is the most likely answer," said Deputy Secretary of State David Scanlan.


>>

If it can expose counting "errors" on this small a scale, it certainly is appropriate to recount any other state (or county/precinct) in the country that shows "voting anomalies." And there are many, many incidents that need investigating.

I do have a concern with the anomalies in places where there is no paper trail, how can we certify those votes?

Can you believe they allowed those machines in this ever so important election of our lifetimes?!!! I am puzzled as to how a Great Democracy allows anything in that cannot be audited.
:mad:

The sad reality is that there's no stopping them... It's up to us to try take a stand!

Kerry Kamp. Wuzzup?

That was when the judicial coup occurred. Try to keep up.

nt

This is a very small town, and if it's like other towns in the region, they used paper ballots. And the odds are pretty decent that this is human error, not a concerted effort to skew the vote.

That said, it's an important observation. Even when there's a paper trail, votes are miscounted. Take this sort of error and extrapolate it to a population of tens of thousands of votes, or more, and you can see (as if we needed persuading) how a "small" mistake can put the wrong person in very high office.

That makes me so happy!!!!
:party:
Where's the champagne?

I hope this is a trend.

have been since the election?

But don't know for sure how many, could be an interesting stat...

a little bit of happiness in my dull world!

None other than Jim March of BBV would like to know.

It sure seems weird that almost ever time when recounts are done or anomalies are found that the repubs always credited with more votes then they really have.

Notice how the total stayed the same for the Dem Chase 1523...
But the totals changed from 1555 to 1519 for the repub...

Just see how 36 votes makes such a big difference..

lets imagine 36 votes extra votes were also given to bush in every precint..


Wow... It is as easy as that to steal an election..plus a good way to win the popular vote by a bunch..

I would like to know whats up with those extra 36 votes.. Were they thrown out or just phantom votes on a computer that don't really exist.hmm...

It wasn't the case that machines failed to register some of the votes for the democrat. Somehow the republican got EXTRA votes. That can't be explained by "spoiled" ballots.

the repub are always the once benefitting from the glitches. how "con"venient

This shows that it wasn't a case of the machines failing to detect/register a vote. That can happen, for example, when op-scan ballots aren't fully punched. But here, additional votes were somehow CREATED for the republican candidate!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

Just wanted to say "Hi" to everyone and thank everyone for their hard work. After the election i was devastated that it had happened again.. Bush stole the election.. I did not know what to do so i got onto the INTERNET to look for answers.. I could not believe what i found.. I thought i was just in the wrong time line or something. Most people in my area just don't believe the way i do.. I realized i was a progressive liberal thanks to DU and that i was not alone..I have hope now.. Thank you so much.. I think there are millions of other people just like me that are lost but don't know were to go.. My goal is to help find those people and introduce them to DU...Then to help all of us to mobilize and take our country back.. 1 person can make a difference when you multiple that times thousands.. We the people must fight for our country..

Freedom for All....

that's a very good point! in my opinion if this happens in small counties on this kind of scale, imagine what it must be like in the larger counties. these kind of discrepancies could show hundreds of thousands of phantom votes.

because language is sooo sensitive here, in media and politics, I would refrain using the word "new". There Never is a new winner, just a winner. "New" implies that a new election took place. MSM do this all the time: overtime and over-heard one/many could/come to believe that a secret —magic— event occurred. I'm not rying to be pedantic, I just think that in these details reside the forces of wrong. (use parentheses, i.e., (new)), for had they counted correctly the first time... Claudia Chase!!!! (about whom I know nothing other than her party affiliation.)

Cheers,


ps i am a humble newbie. many many thanks. DU is f'n awesome. you're all on the Good track. ALL SYSTEMS GO.

. . . even if the requested recount is just for Pres/Veep?

Is this US House or the New Hampshire state assembly?

only stupid freepers now and then

and not a stupid question :)

I can't help it I seem to spend a lot of time here but being Canadian I sometimes feel like I am eavesdropping. Anyway I am just hoping something big happens and the GOP is held accountable for the lying cheating lot that they are. If that happens can Kerry then choose his own people or are the changes made by * cast in stone.

but if you're talking about cabinet appointments then Kerry, if he were to win, could make his own appointments.

If you're talking about house and senate seats, no president has any say about those (unless he's illegally controlling the voting process) since they are elected by popular vote in each of the states. So if, for example, lawsuits and recounts were to turn the vote around in Ohio this would have no affect on the congressional races in other states so Kerry could face a hostile congress.

and I personally love Canadians(literally my boyfriend is Canadian)

you are not eves dropping, I am sure you are just as mad as we are, because it really affects the whole world in a way.

But all of us Democrats may be moving there ,if this does not work out for us