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witchhazl Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 04:56 PM
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Ohio pollworkers go to FBI with fraud, get referred to SOS Blackwell
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 05:35 PM by witchhazl
for their trouble.
It's in Freeman's new draft of his paper, bottom of p.15 (update: to top of page 16).

http://www.appliedresearch.us/sf/Documents/ExitPoll.pdf

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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:01 PM
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1. It's Official! All Hail the Dictatorship of the Divided States of America!
...and to B*'s Republic, for which it stands, one nation, under Bush, thoroughly divisable, for liberty and justice for only those who can afford it.

God help us.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:21 PM
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7. Need (firendly) Celebrities's email addresses -they need to know ASAP
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:03 PM
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2. My only hope...
That a recount in Ohio, and further investigations will reveal all of these issues!
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:03 PM
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3. Well,that will never go anywhere
Blackwell helped orchestrate the theft here in Ohio. It always goes back to the ones responsable.....how ironic is THAT?
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:06 PM
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4. I clicked on this link
and saw no p. 15! I looked twice. It has all the other pages....what am I missing here?
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Mike Nelson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:18 PM
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5. TRY TRY AGAIN
I got a page 15 -- said on the top right.
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:27 PM
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9. Got it
Thanks!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:29 PM
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12. I found page 15, but I don't see the FBI reference.
:shrug: Will someone point me in the right direction, please?
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:33 PM
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15. It's at the top of page 16.
I tried to copy it, but couldn't. Hope this helps.
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:33 PM
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16. Maybe you can help me to.
I'm feeling like a "duh" here. Going for caffeine...
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jhgatiss Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:20 PM
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6. I'm not sure recount is enough.
We need a full election audit with the poll books and all!
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:23 PM
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8. Need (firendly) Celebrities's email addresses -they need to know ASAP
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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:27 PM
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10. ha ha ha
who do they think controls the FBI....what a joke.
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:32 PM
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14. What do you mean??
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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:46 PM
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19. I mean the FBI
director is appointed by shrub and shrub will squash any thing coming out of Ohio....opps I step in your link. sorry
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:51 PM
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20. It's Okay I just realized what happened :)
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maryallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:23 PM
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25. Mueller, Head of FBI:
Bush Clean-Up Man -- research it.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 12:13 AM
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37. Possibly
But he also played on the same hockey and lacrosse teams as John Kerry in prep school. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
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reality_bites Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:02 AM
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30. Your wish is my command:
peewee herman: pherman@bellsouth.net
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:29 PM
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11. I told you that you couldn't depend on the FBI
Edited on Sat Nov-20-04 05:30 PM by The Backlash Cometh
On edit: Now will you please take advertisement out in the NYT?
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:32 PM
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13. Blackwell named in many lawsuits. Many more coming!
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:34 PM
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17. link?
nt
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 05:37 PM
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18. Sorry, didn't save the link, but I'll look for it.
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republikkkon Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:07 PM
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22. blackwell named in 6 cases so far...
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:12 PM
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23. That's good news.
:headbang:
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:16 PM
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24. Great link - thanks!
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reality_bites Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 12:08 AM
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31. Oh, Indeed there are:
He is my next door neighbor. He encroached 6" over his driveway onto my lawn/flower bed and crushed 3 sprigs and a crocus. it was either him or his son. Will keep this up to date on another thread. Oh - Bush Sucks.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:07 PM
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21. Not surprising
since election fraud investigation falls under the SOS's office.

I would say that the FBI was telling these people to go through channels within the state because it is, at this point, a state issue. However, I would hope that this is part of the "broader" lawsuit challenge.

If not, it would seem to be a "recount" issue, since it involves the "more votes than voters" discrepancy we have seen in several precincts/counties in several states.
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maryallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:29 PM
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26. No can do ...
Blackwell is the defendent in many of these suits.

It would be like the battered wife trying to get restitution and relief from the battering husband ... not going to happen.

This is a circle-jerk ... purposely.

It reminds me of Florida 2000 and the Repub battle cry:
"We counted the votes and we re-counted the votes," when in fact, they NEVER counted ALL of the votes.

Crazy-making behavior, is what it is.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 06:31 PM
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27. Here is the quote from pg 15 and 16.
"For the past 10 days I've been receiving email from all across the country - 1500 emails and counting - most of the extending thanks for documenting this discrepancy, drawing the conclusions, and asking the (obvious) questions that the media and everyone else with a public voice had been ignoring. But many have been allegations of mistabulation and worse. Three precinct workers from the Appalachian section of Ohio, for example wrote:

360 people signed the book and 33 absentee ballots were cast for a total of 393 votes. The Board of Elections is reporting 489 votes cast in that one precinct. WE HAVE A COPY OF THE ENTIRE POLL BOOK for this precinct. (other totlas were hand cheched)

They went to the FBI, who referred them to the Secretary of State's office, despite the fact the precinct workers believe that the Secretary of State's office is culpable. (Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell served as the state's Bush-Chaney campaign chairman this year)"

We, I here at DU like to call him Katherine Blackwell.
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 01:40 AM
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32. We have to help protect these people, they have tried to give their eviden
ce to the FBI, now they should give it to the United Nations, and the BBC and the CBC.

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YBR31 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 07:05 PM
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28. NEP refuses to release exit poll data until early 2005--read as after
Read note 31 at the bottom of page 15. The NEP refuses to release the raw exit poll data to Dr. Freeman until early 2005. I'll interpret that as meaning after the inauguration. What reason would they have to withhold data from a University of Pennsylvania professor at this point?
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-20-04 08:21 PM
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29. How can we find out who they are?- They need to give this to
Bev and the Kerry People
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 02:37 AM
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33. kick
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:05 PM
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34. kick
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truehawk Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 04:57 PM
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35. kick
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-04 05:48 PM
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36. Repuke Ballot Stuffing in Ohio!
The fraud shows right through in cases like this...the Republicans obviously had to do a hell of a lot of fraud in Ohio for such obvious errors to appear!

Is the Democratic Party doing ANYTHING to challenge this obvious fraud? What the hell is going on?
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