Democrats position..on vote thefts, MMoore, Rove

Rovian toxic-head mouthpieces are dumping on Dems in bucketfuls of toxic logic - claiming their 'victory' and positioning Dems as losers. The spin must be un-spun.

Rovian toxic-head mouthpieces appear to have dropped the accusation that Dems don't have moral values, but the damage is done - their panting pathetic believe-anything 'swallowers' will repeat it to the end of time. Dems need to defend their moral values.... relentlessly - we are the ones with the values to maintain and preserve what thousands of people have worked so hard to attain. We are the ones who must fight to preserve decades of progress. We must fight regression and the disappearance of the constitution and bill of rights.

Rovian toxic-head mouthpieces are now saying that Michael Moore, Whoopi Goldberg, and others lost the election for us. Michael Moore and all the other producers and contributors of the dozen excellent documentaries EDUCATED ALL WHO SAW THEM and therefore the Rovians and Robertsons will attack with ridicule.

We had a Warren Commission, a 9-11 Commission...we don't know if we will have a black box voting commission...but the statistics and documentation is piling up and the book that can be published from it will be equally thick. We don't know what will happen, but it looks like things were not 'fair and square', THEREFORE THEY CANNOT SAY THEY WON - today or ever.

What people will do about it depends on a continued fight.

Fight 1 - Fight the spin they dump about our inferiority. Ignore the stupid claim of Bush about his man-date. 'Memorize' the findings about the election. Don't give up.

Moral Man in an Immoral society

Read it...

The answer you seek on how to unspin this is there.

We are not talking morals here... but ethics, the GOP has no ethics...

Many don't have time to read much now, but I am sure this is important.

Blaming the defeat on the fact that MM got a seat at the convention and saying that Clinton wouldn't have allowed it and no way would he have let Whoopi speak her mind. ( I doubt he tries to tell any woman what to say and not say)

Just conjecture on the part of Fox bozos, who knows.

I think MM brought more voters into the party.

I can name at least 7 or 8 people (with family members who voted Dem as well) that I know,(just off hand) who voted for the Dems because of MM and these are people who were first time voters or those who seldom or never voted. (unlikely voters) That's not counting the ones that I know that always vote. That's one of the reasons I think Kerry won and his votes were undercounted.

made repubs angrier than the cigar and blue dress and whitewater and gay daughters put together... the fact that they are still trying to discredit him just goes to show that they are still scared... i hope he puts stuff about BBV in his new film.

i can do without whoopi though :)

PUBLIC outcry against Bush would have been astounding.

I just don't know why the movie was not shown.....or WHY they didnt show the MAKING OF Fahrenheit 9/11.

WHY DIDN'T Nightline crucifying John O'Neill of the SWIFTVOTE LIARS.........get more publicity???

I THINK......because the media hated Kerry's guts and kept America from knowing the truth.

all my friends in Louisiana watched.

I know a bunch of people in New Mexico, Arizona, and Cali and here in Arkansas and back home Louisiana who saw it and made up their minds to register and to vote for Kerry.

A lot people voted in this election who aren't the usual voters.

<<<Rovian toxic-head mouthpieces appear to have dropped the accusation that Dems don't have moral values, but the damage is done - their panting pathetic believe-anything 'swallowers' will repeat it to the end of time. Dems need to defend their moral values.... >>>

We should NOT defend our moral values. Then we are on the defensive once again. We should attack their moral values and the best way is to point out that bush's invasion of iraq makes him a mass murderer and so to those who support him.

Don't you think it is a given that we are already working on THEIR moral values? I've been doing it for about 20 years - got started with my outrage over Iran-Contra when I realized that they were operating a secret-sub-government - I started exposing them then.

Attack to me means educating someone.

There is another thread going on about doing it with humor.