Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Issue 1 Chart for Cuyahoga County, Ohio

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU
 
jmknapp Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:09 PM
Original message
Issue 1 Chart for Cuyahoga County, Ohio
red = yes; blue = no



large version

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
L84TEA Donating Member (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:11 PM
Response to Original message
1. WOW...
that is a mess.:mad:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. i don't understand what the purpose of this chart is
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
phlesh Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. It illustrates the self serving bigotry in Ohio...
I for one am ashamed of Issue 1... even if you are an opponent of gay marriage, the gay marriage law passed here in Ohio gives no domestic protection to gay and lesbian couples whatsoever... even opponents should be able to admit that this law challenges civil liberties and alienates gays and lesbians by by not giving them equal protection when it comes to personal property and such...

I fear that America is getting lost more in more in its own selfishness... Jesus would not approve of this either...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jmknapp Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Issue 1 is a wedge issue
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 10:40 PM by jmknapp
It shows a consisent pattern seen all over Ohio.

Black precincts voted for Issue 1 en masse, as did rednecks and fundies.

The large blue area at the right is Cleveland Heights, Shaker Heights and University Heights. Such white liberal areas voted against issue 1 and for Kerry.

Lakewood, right underneath the compass points, is solid blue (against issue 1) and is described as follows:

Short Description: progressive, ethnically diverse with a mixture of youth and age, upper middle class world of apartment dwellers, exotic restaurants and cultural centers.

Family Types: Single Ethnicity: ethnically diverse; predominately white, high Asian & Hispanic Predominant Age Range: 25-44; 65+

Education: College Graduate

Employment: White Collar; Professional; business, finance, public sector

Housing Type: Renter of Multi-Unit

Median Income: $51,016 Median

Home Value: $109,000 (from 1999 PRIZM data)

Politics: liberal independent Key Issues: gay rights, defusing racial tensions, environmental protection, increasing military spending

Consumer Pattern: behave like upper middle class sophisticates; specialty shops, ethnic markets, family restaurants, delis, sushi bars, taco joints, Nordstrom, jazz music, Kias, Volkswagen, Nissan.

Interests: multiculturalism, intellectually challenging pursuits, theater, adult education, libraries, public broadcasting, alternative health.

Also interesting is that professional white Republican precincts such as Bay Village (upper left corner) and Chagrin Falls (middle far right) had the sense to vote against Issue 1, even while voting for Bush.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rdmccur Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. voting patterns
This graphics tool might me very useful for showing suspicious or odd-looking voting patterns for select offices (like for president). For instance compare vote for state democratic candidates with vote (or not) for Kerry. Maybe some other factors (ethnicity, income) could be identified as well. Think about it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. Hi rdmccur!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Chili Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:37 AM
Response to Reply #4
9. you are exactly right...
Edited on Wed Nov-24-04 12:49 AM by Chili
The greater Cleveland area isn't very "sophisticated" in the sense that New York (City) is - and that is a compliment, New Yorkers. But if there were any communities in northeast Ohio that come close to that kind of openness and cultural sophistication, it's Cleveland Hits and the surrounding municipalities, and Lakewood.

BTW, here's a map to go with that, showing which communities (for any Ohioans, LOL... or just for me :) )

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jmknapp Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:24 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. This graphic shows the cultural types
red = for Bush, for issue 1 (rural/blue collar conservatives)
pink = for Bush, against issue 1 (rich white conservatives)
purple = for Kerry, against issue 1 (white liberal urban sophisticates)
blue = for Kerry, for issue 1 (blacks and blue collar white Democrats)

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Chili Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:37 AM
Response to Reply #10
11. that's an interesting graph, thank you
Edited on Wed Nov-24-04 09:44 AM by Chili
...although, I want to clarify that the purple areas - especially Cleveland Hts - has a large African-American population. Cleveland Hts, Shaker Hts, University Hts, Beachwood are very mixed areas - black, white, and Jewish, middle to upper middle class, almost equally mixed together, some very affluent. So it's not just white liberals.

Unfortunately, it is true, I think, that African-Americans are still very sensitive about the gay community. It doesn't affect the national election, as a whole, I doubt very many blacks voted against Kerry for that reason, but they (we) did vote very heavily for the amendment (I didn't, I voted it down - I live in one of those purple areas, LOL). Also, that very thin purple line going east right on the lake is also mixed culturally.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rdmccur Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. same
Neither would Buddha
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ms. Toad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 11:30 PM
Response to Reply #3
8. Not just gay and lesbian couples - ALL unmarried couples.
The second sentence does not mention the genders of the parties involved. ("This state and its political subdivisions shall not create or recognize a legal status for relationships of unmarried individuals that intends to approximate the design, qualities, significance or effect of marriage.")

A handful of universities offer domestic partnership health care benefits to unmarried couples - as of the effective date of the amendment they will be prohibited from continuing those benefits even to heterosexual couples.

All sorts of private contracts which offer benefits based on recognition of non-marital relationships (potentially including virtually all joint property owership by unmarried pairs of indivdiuals) will be unenforceable - since court enforcement involves state recognition. Courts may be unable to probate wills leaving property to "beloved partners" to whom one happens not to be married, dropping that portion of the estate back to inheritance laws. And potentially the most devastating, courts may be unable to enforce domestic violence laws (recently extended based on de facto family relationship rather than marriage) setting up special expedited and extended protection in the case of violence within the home when the family members involved in the violence are not married to each other.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jhgatiss Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 10:26 PM
Response to Original message
5. Great work once again! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 07:31 PM
Response to Reply #5
13. Very Interesting, A Picture is worth a Thousands Words
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jmknapp Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. Modified demographic chart
A Clevelander informed me that the blue area in the chart above, identified as "blacks," includes Parma and Parma Heights (blue concentration in middle left). These are white blue collar communities--union members who like blacks voted for Kerry and for Issue 1.

Turns out there's a way to differentiate the two based on the same two parameters of Kerry% and Issue1%. The black precincts voted for Kerry in excess of 70% and the blue collar precincts voted for Kerry 50-70%. With that criterion, the map becomes:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 04:22 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC