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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:14 AM
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Minnesota Fraud
I took a snapshot of the results from the Secretary of State's site...look at the results in the 6th District for third party candidates: (scroll down)

http://electionresults.sos.state.mn.us/20041102/ElecRslts.asp?M=S&R=ALL&P=A
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The Spirit of JFK Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:16 AM
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1. Forward it to Kerry HQ... nt
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:25 AM
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5. I got a BS form on the Kerry site.
I think this is big...anyone got a link or number to a "live" contact?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:03 AM
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30. Call the Washington, DC, phone number tomorrow am...live people...
...work there, and they WILL respond to your call.
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harpo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:19 AM
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2. is that the same david cobb running in Ohio?
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harpo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:23 AM
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3. they had some wierd stuff like that for Cobb on Ohio's site in Lucas Count
but thet eventually fixed it...I would get someone to check that out though
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:24 AM
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4. Whoa, those are damned funky vote totals!
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 02:26 AM by Lydia Leftcoast
Over 8,000 votes each for Nader, the Greens, AND the Christian Freedom Party AND the Libertarians AND the Constitution Party in that large suburban and rural district?

No way!

Interestingly enough, that's the district where Patty Wetterling started out ahead of Republicanite slimebag Kennedy and fell further and further behind. Could that have something to do with the weird votes?

Send it to Lori Sturdevant at the Strib. She's their state politics reporter, and she seems fair-minded.
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Kindigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:27 AM
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6. OMG
n/t
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:27 AM
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7. These numbers could tip the Prez totals...
we need to get this out.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:28 AM
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8. Very interesting. Something is definitely very
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 02:31 AM by FlaGranny
"off" there.

Edit: 8487 write in votes and almost 60 thousand votes for other than Bush and Kerry. Hmmm. I wonder how many precincts across the country got results like that?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:29 AM
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9. Good catch - something very wrong there
It sticks out like a sore thumb.
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:35 AM
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11. I am thinking...
that Wetterling got robbed...as will Kerry if this continues.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:34 AM
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10. Got a screen shot
I suggest that others do the same.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:36 AM
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12. 6th district
is St. Cloud--there is NO way that the results are this far off there
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Rjnerd Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:36 AM
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13. What counties are in 6th district?
Most of MN appears to be scanned paper, but that doesn't mean that the tabulator isn't fixed...

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/map.php?&topic_string=5std&state=Minnesota
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:46 AM
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18. THESE counties
The Sixth Congressional District Contains all of Benton , Sherbourne, and Wright counties as well as parts of Anoka, Hennepin, Stearns, and Washington counties. THANKS to new SOS Mary Kiffmeyer (national director of SOS's) they REDISTRICTED this area.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:36 AM
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14. I e-mailed this to Kerry site
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 02:42 AM by FlaGranny
but I don't know how soon someone might look at it. If anyone has a better method to contact his campaign, please do it. I'll also send it to Randi Rhodes.

Edit: Okay, I just e-mailed to Randi with a snapshot of the page and a link.
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:42 AM
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16. I also emailed this to the Kerry campaign...
I am a bit freaked out, so can anyone suggest what to do with this. I think it's huge. I emailed the Strib reporter suggested above, but someone should be contacted live.
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oldmanpeacenik Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:38 AM
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15. hmm
looks like someone added 8k to each of the totals.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:49 AM
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21. THEY SURE AS SHIT DID
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:44 AM
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17. CNN is showing results different from those
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/MN/P/00/index.html
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:48 AM
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19. OK, but.
The results I am looking at are from the OFFICIAL results, via the Secretary of State of the State of Minnesota. This may not effect the presidential results, but this is Patti Wetterlings district...and I think she was robbed.
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DrRock Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:51 AM
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24. ^
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 02:52 AM by DrRock
Try sending it directly to the Minnesota party officials. They're probably easier to reach. Shit, send it to everyone you can think of that needs to see it. Al Franken comes to mind.
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:54 AM
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27. got an email address to Franken?
n/t
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:48 AM
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20. But for each state, it's the secretary of state's totals that COUNT
That's why this is so important.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:51 AM
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23. SOS MARY KIFFMEYER
Is a REPUKE operative--AND the DIRECTOR of the NATIONAL association of secretaries of state. She's been trying to pull all kinds of shit here.
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:52 AM
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25. We're talking 56,000 votes
that gives Kerry a win in the 6th...and would definitely effect the Wetterling race.
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oldtime dfl_er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:50 AM
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22. sent it to a contact at the Star Trib
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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:54 AM
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26. Thats the Kennedy-Wetterling Race
You might want to alert the DFL Wetterling campaign also but she has conceded already. I believe that is Anoka where Diebold beta tested according to their memos without having to get permission.
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:01 AM
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29. Sent an email to the Wetterling campaign
but...no one will read it soon.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 02:57 AM
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28. That doesn't look good ...

Thats a good district to recount if necessary.

I personally feel we need a COUNTRY WIDE recount. We need to straighten out this shit once and for all!!!!
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:04 AM
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31. Dang
That is seriously screwed up. I hope it's just a typo by the person maintaining the website and not actual fraud, but if it IS fraud...well, I hope someone winds up in federal prison.
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:08 AM
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32. No typo...
these are the OFFICIAL results...I just can't get through to the media to get this out, this morning.
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DrRock Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:10 AM
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33. ^
Here:

http://www.airamericaradio.com/shows/alfrankenshow/contact.asp

I suggest him of course since he's a Minnesota guy.
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Rjnerd Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 03:11 AM
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34. I passed these onto Verified Voting
I suggest also forwarding them to the congresperson in question. (I have contacts in VV.org, as I was originally going to pollwatch for them, but couldn't get to a touch screen state.)
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