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mdb Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:39 PM
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Jackson questions Ohio election tally And he responds to reporter about JK
Edited on Sun Nov-28-04 12:40 PM by mdb
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041128/NEWS01/411280435
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When asked why it was him, not the Democratic presidential candidate, who is demanding an investigation and recount, Jackson implied that Sen. John Kerry could become more vocal soon about an investigation on the Ohio vote or a statewide recount.

"Kerry was inclined to believe what he was told, and he was told the election was over," Jackson told a group of reporters in a conference call Saturday afternoon. "But now we're unearthing information that did not surface at first. I suppose the more information Kerry gets, the more you will hear from him."
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:42 PM
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1. Awesome
FINALLY!!
:toast:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:45 PM
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4. i will believe it when I see it!!
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Obviousman Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:42 PM
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2. More focus groups and internal polls?
I hope Kerry is being guided by principle here, and not public opinion
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:45 PM
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3. OMFG! please please be true!
my husband says, hmmm "should be interestiing."

i say "bout dang time!"

woohoo!
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:47 PM
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5. Somebody say, "Amen, Jesse!"
We were promised this time that every vote would count," said Jackson, president of the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:48 PM
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6. statewide recount?
does that mean a recount of the full state of Ohio, or a recount of various states across the country?
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MarkusQ Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:46 PM
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26. More than a recount
More than just a recount is needed. Under a wide range of possible situations, recounting a flawed election might just give you the same flawed results.

It's looking (to me at least) as if there was widespread, detectable voter suppression in Ohio, which (among other things) is unconstitutional. The total effect of this may have been several times the margin by which Kerry "lost" Ohio. What we need is a serious examination of the process by which equipment was distributed, who decided which precincts got known-bad machines, which precincts got disproportionately more (or fewer) resources, etc. Then we need to do a quick check to see if the person behind these decisions was the head of either of the major campaigns, and if his or her decisions helped their candidate.

Once we know all that, we should be in a good position to decide what to do next.

--MarkusQ
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 12:49 PM
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7. I want to post something like "it's all going according to plan etc..." ..
But all I can say is WHOOOOOO!!!!!! GO KERRY! GO KERRY! GO KERRY!
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proudtobeadem Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:38 PM
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8. Kick Kick Kick
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 01:59 PM
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9. This is the ramp up
Next week should get interesting...

:bounce:
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Chasing Dreams Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 04:28 PM
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19. Yes, it feels like this is the week that Kerry goes public, or
Monday Dec 6, when Ohio certifies the vote.

The question I have is will it be a passive Ohio only recount, or a more aggressive, multi-state fraud challenge? Look for Kerry to go early this week if he's up to the latter. I hope so!
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 02:56 PM
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10. Free Press: Jackson"Kerry supports full investigation...."
Just in from Free:


Kerry Supports Ohio Vote Investigation, Jackson says
by Steven Rosenfeld
November 28, 2004

John Kerry supports a “full investigation” into voting irregularities in Ohio, Rev. Jesse Jackson said Saturday, during a teleconference with media regarding a recount and legal challenge of the Nov. 2 vote.

“John Kerry supports a full investigation,” Jackson said. He recently spoke with the Democratic presidential nominee and reported that Kerry said he conceded the race on the morning after Election Day because “originally, he was inclined to believe what he was told” about the results. On Wednesday, Nov. 3, Kerry said there was little chance he could close George W. Bush’s 130,000-vote lead with the uncounted provisional and absentee ballots.

Jackson’s brief remarks may be the first that shed some light on Kerry’s fast concession – a decision many supporters felt was too hasty. Jackson will be in Ohio today, Sunday, Nov. 28, to declare his support for a recount of the Ohio vote and for a broader investigation into voting patterns that he said were “suspicious” and could have given votes to Bush that he did not earn.

“We want to look at the exit polls,” Jackson said, referring to at least two non-partisan Election Day polls, by Zogby and CNN, which gave Kerry 53 percent and 51 percent of the vote, respectively. “We don’t want to be presumptuous, but these numbers in the Butler, Clarmont, Warren and Hamilton counties are suspicious.”

By suspicious, Jackson is referring to the latest analysis of the Nov. 2 vote by a coalition of Ohio voting rights activists. In analyzing the still-unofficial results, the totals reveal that C. Ellen Connally, an African-American Democratic candidate from Cleveland for Ohio Chief Justice, received more than 257,000 votes than Kerry.

More:http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/944
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:25 PM
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13. Kivk again and keep kicked
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:13 PM
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11. Kick N/t
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:24 PM
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12. i dont for one moment ...
think kerry wasn't in this from the get go..i really believe this is why he conceeded so quick..to get his lawyers into ohio immediately without all the media and deflections and an onslaught of sore loser crap from the bush thugs..he was not goingto get "gored" like in 2000, this was planned from the get go..and now kerry can come out unscathed and say he was wronged..and end up staying presidential and looking like the wronged party in this..and he wont be flip flopped with all the dang flip flop sore looser crap...kerrys people will have nailed down all they needed to without the hassles of the media, and the bush thugs who stole the election th last time..kerry si too smart..and remember folks he was a prosecutor , he knows how to build evidence!! evidence with no holes in it!! and kerry has some of the brightest people in this nation on his side...even military and cia/fbi!!..remember kerry is the one who blew open iran contra, and the bcci world bank scam, and who was involved in both?? the bushes!! kerry si no bodys fool!! he was in on this from the get go..but they are playing this out to the t....fly
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:47 PM
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15. You got That right! and KICK
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:47 PM
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23. Agreed, it's better to get the other side on board through public opinion
if he hadn't done it the way he has, the whole debate would have been the typically divided ReThug vs Dems. By conceding and keeping quiet this way, he's able to build more unified support against the whole black box issue. From his days as a prosecuter, you build your evidence until you have all 12 of the jurors convinced, you don't close your case with only 50% for you and the other 50% dead set against.
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:24 PM
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24. It would have been a REPLAY of the Florida Voter Fraud
With Senator Kerry being attacked by the RIGHT WING Repiglican's and the Swift Vote LIARS..........this request for a COUNT of the votes would be a Circus.

EVERY VOTE COUNTS AND HELP IS ON THE WAY.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:33 PM
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14. kick
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:49 PM
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16. and KICK again
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 03:52 PM
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17. Blackwell To Sandbag The Dec. 6th Dateline
{snip} Although a demand for a recount typically is not made until after the vote has been certified, Jackson and others, including the Green and Libertarian parties who have filed a lawsuit demanding a recount, fear that waiting until certification would not allow enough time for a completed recount before Ohio presidential electors meet Dec. 13.

The Ohio Secretary of State's Office has said certification should occur around Dec. 6.

You can expect Blackwell to do a disappearing act after votes are certified the first time.
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Northwestmom4Kerry Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 04:15 PM
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18. I don't trust Jesse Jackson
He had his opportunity on national cable television when he was interviewed by Judy Woodruff earlier this week, and he not only said NOTHING about any voting irregularies, recount, fraud, or anything close, but when she point blank asked him whether Bush won fair and square, he answered in his usual unclear manner, "won fair and square". Honestly, I can't understand what he is even saying half the time, and if you read the transcript from his interview, nobody else can either. I sincerely doubt whether Kerry would use him as any sort of spokesperson, and I'm not sure I even believe whether he's personally spoken to Kerry.
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BlueStateBlue Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:13 PM
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20. CNN Headline News referred to Jackson in Ohio
At about 4:15pm Eastern time, CNN Headline News had Recount? Jesse Jackson leads rally in Ohio (or words to that effect, don't quote me!) on their crawler.

Can't wait to see what news this week brings. I believe!

:tinfoilhat:
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-28-04 05:23 PM
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21. sounds GREAT!!
First its a crawler then its got legs...
I am with you!!!!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 12:29 PM
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22. Jackson is a true American hero.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-29-04 01:39 PM
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25. I Googled Jesse Jackson through Google News and
I came up with this:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/11/29/123030.shtml

Looks like the other side is catching on. I wonder how long till Drudge runs with it.
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